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02.18.2009 1:44 pm

Attorney general Eric Holder urges us to talk about race issues

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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The new attorney general, Eric Holder, says Americans do not talk with one another about racial issues. In fact, he says we have in many ways been cowards on the issue.

“Though race related issues continue to occupy a significant portion of our political discussion, and though there remain many unresolved racial issues in this nation, we, average Americans, simply do not talk enough with each other about race,” Holder said “… And yet, if we are to make progress in this area we must feel comfortable enough with one another, and tolerant enough of each other, to have frank conversations about the racial matters that continue to divide us.”

I confess, I’m not sure that this blog has accomplished what I had hoped going in. In many instances, it feels like we aren’t conversing so much as spewing.

What do you think about Holder’s remarks? And what do you think about trying to talk about racial issues? Are there ways to make this more of a conversation?

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I think there has not been much conversation because the majority of united states citizens (white people) are deathly afraid of being labled “racist”. And I think most of us are unsure as to what topics about race we can speak about without getting this label. I don’t think minorities realize what kind of Scarlet Letter it is as a white person to be called a racist. It can cost you your friends, job, political influence, elections and much much more.
So until white people feel that they are ALLOWED to discuss race issues, they will continue, as I will, to keep our mouths shut, and let minorities discuss amongtst themselves issues about their respective races.

— larry
3:03 pm February 18th, 2009

“I confess, I’m not sure that this blog has accomplished what I had hoped going in. In many instances, it feels like we aren’t conversing so much as spewing.”

I agree with you, but don’t give up hope. It would help if more people joined this discussion, and that they discussed it in a civil manner. How you get to happen is beyond me. Still, I have enjoyed it so far and have learned some things, and that is never a bad thing.

As far as Holder’s remarks, he may be right. Since he is AG though I wish he’d spend his time catching crooks instead of delving into these topics.

— Tim
3:07 pm February 18th, 2009

He’s want all of us Whites to talk about the subject, and with the Patriot act he can get our info ISP vie the Post and come and put us in the camps.
The upside is in the future we will be able to sue the feds for being interned if they don’t put us to death.

Just kidding! LOL

As the first poster alluded to, I lost a job because of having a comedy web page making fun of racial crap. The company was so fearful of being sued and branded a racist org.

— yes we can
3:28 pm February 18th, 2009

I thought this issue was taken care of after Obama’s spectacular speech on race last year that no one remembers? Frankly, I think Holder should stick to the responsibilities outlined in his job description. He was appointed Attorney General of the United States, not America’s guidance counselor.

— Go_Fish
3:50 pm February 18th, 2009

This blog has not accomplished what you had hoped because it is very one sided.

It is not really a conversation because you don’t actually want another opinion on the matter. You don’t want to hear that anyone can be successful in this country and you don’t want to hear anything about personal responsibility. You just want to make excuses and lay blame of racial woes on white people. And you want white people to accept the blame with a smile on their face.

But most white people, being human in nature, do not easily accept blame for something they have not done.

— jmas
4:26 pm February 18th, 2009

It seems like Holder completely missed the boat. This would have be perfect opportunity to discuss how far America has come in just a few decades. Look at race relations in Europe to get an idea. I think there’s this idea the United States is more racist than our counterparts and it’s not true. We should be celebrating the fact that truly no position of influence is unattainable because of skin color. Instead Holder offered these divisive remarks that are not constructive.

When did we become such a nation of negativity? Didn’t this administration promise us hope and change? We should quit tearing ourselves down and concentrate on the tasks at hand.

— nemov
5:24 pm February 18th, 2009

I heard Mr. Holders speech today.
He I’ll paraphrase see’s all of us working and going to school together but when the bell rings or you clock out that were the race mixing stops.
I guess for integration in schools is not good enough. He wants us to go clubbing have house parties together. What I really think is he wants all the black men to have white wives or girlfriends so our society can fornicate into a light brown society. Could Be!
This brings up another problem. Why is it black men want white women more so then white men want black females?

— yes we can
5:40 pm February 18th, 2009

Yes, we can, it is to a large degree comments like yours that prevent anything resembling a “conversation” from taking place.

Bizarre statements about black men wanting white women more than white men wanting black women are ridiculous on their face. There are so many hues of “black” people in this country because of white men “wanting” black females, for example.

You reduce everything to some sick, base pathology, and poison every blog post you respond to.

— Ron Wade
6:17 pm February 18th, 2009

First, I’ll address the silly stuff. It is a myth that black men want white women more than white men want black women. Men will desire women no matter what their color. Sex may be the ultimate test of whether a man is racist. If a man wouldn’t even fantasize about an encounter with women of another race, he is racist.

About the general discussion of race, I do wish we would get past this whole us vs. them attitude. I’ve never had a problem with anyone because of their race. There certainly are cultural differences between some races that make interaction difficult, but I don’t understand hatred being based on that.

I think what we need to do is make fun of each other again. Seriously. It helps us discuss a touchy subject without being hateful.

— Think|
6:46 pm February 18th, 2009

Perhaps it has not accomplished ALL that you hoped it would but it has accomplished some good things. I would like to think that a lot of the readers and bloggers have experienced a few ‘aha’ moments. I know I have had several of them as I read some of the blogs.
Even that small bunch of folks that seem to be the most opinionated when posting have at one time or another said something that was thought provoking. Isn’t that part of the objective of this entire effort?
Yes, they tend to drone on or ramble without point but every so often there may be a nugget of interest in their postings.
I would pay money to see some of those bloggers sit down in a room with a very strong, impartial moderator and actually have an honest CONVERSATION about race.

— iluvweknds
7:09 pm February 18th, 2009

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