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10.24.2009 11:30 pm

How important is the race of a perpetrator or victim?

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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One of the constant questions or speculations we get on story comments throughout stltoday.com is about the race of people in crime stories. Commenters want a photo posted, or they routinely ask that the stories state the race of criminal and victim, or they begin their own suppositions about the race of those involved.

What is the usefulness of that information? Does it matter — and how much — if the attacker is one race and the victim another? If the attacker and victim are of the same race? Is the crime any more or less heinous, or the victim any more or less deserving of sympathy because of their race?

Do you come to different judgments about the case — belief in guilt or innocence, accountability for the criminal’s behavior, expectations of punishment, etc. — because of the race of those involved?

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55 comments

Ron: a simple rule…either report race every time, or never. Give all crimes of the same type equal space. Murder is murder, burglary is burglary, home invasion is home invasion, assault is assault.

It’s a fact that, for example, a white teenage girl gets way better press than a black teenage girl if they are the victim of a crime. Ask yourself, why is this?

— hs
8:32 am October 25th, 2009

The purpose of a news agency is to report the facts. Newspapers report the age, sex, name, of those involved then why not the race. Race does matter, look at the school bus attack a month or so ago. Had the races been reversed there would have been a huge uproar, hate crime charges, Jesse, Al, and the rest of the “race hustlers” would have been down here doing what they do best, using the race card. Had the victims of the home invasion where the off duty police officer was shot and the nurse killed been black, and no white neighbors come to their aide the word racist would be flying all over the place.

— TheUnderboss
10:44 am October 25th, 2009

This is an excellent post. The news media should not filter out relevant information due to misguided notions of political correctness. Everyone is responsible for their own actions. No one is responsible for the actions of others due to sharing the same race or ethnicity. All crimes should be treated on an individual basis rather that as an indictment against a particular race.

However, problems must be properly understood to be solved. It is an undisputable fact that black on black crime is by far the most persuasive type of crime. Black on white crime is many times the rate of white on black crime. Sexual assault by white males against black females is so rare that it rounds to zero in the FBI statistics. It is due to political correctness that demagogues such as Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton have been able to perpetuate hoaxes of such crimes with a willing media stoking the fire. Witness the recent Duke Lacrosse rape case. Such a miscarriage of justice could never have taken place without the extreme political correctness in academia and the media.

Only once the problems are understood can solutions be discussed. I believe a prime suspect in the level of black crime is social programs that treat blacks differently. The black family has been destroyed by welfare programs designed by liberal whites. An us versus them philosophy stoked by racial antagonists has hampered the ability to fight crime in black neighborhoods.

A philosophy of treating everyone as an individual regardless of race is the only antidote for the current mess. Spurious accusations of racism by those seeking power need to be denounce by all rational individuals.

— David H.
11:50 am October 25th, 2009

If we don’t know the race of the criminals then how can we as a society discriminate?

— thegoviskillingme
7:01 pm October 25th, 2009

Maybe I have a different slant on things but I think the race of the individuals is paramount in ascertaining where and who are the perps committing the crimes, why, and where they are being committed. If its black on black, white on white, black on white, etc. it needs to be addressed because then it will create a pattern that just might give rise to ideas of what is taking place that causes these crimes in the first instance. If its all black on black then what is the reason and we can tell this by the numbers of those crimes being reported by stating all the facts including the race of the victim and the perp! It would give the authorities an insight they perhaps they don’t currently have as to the cause and result! Out of every action there is a reaction = maybe this would help separate these causes into a more readable mapping of the circumstances. Now, after the Coleman murders, police are keeping all information under wraps which I think is a mistake! If the general public could help with information, they can’t because they don’t have anything to go on! This secrecy is for the birds. If my white neighbor is a criminal I want to know about it, just like I want to know if the black guy on the side is a criminal! I have a right to know what is going on, right?

— Purdy
9:25 pm October 25th, 2009

If you answer:

“It’s not important! We’re all one race - the Human Race. Everyone is equal. It doesn’t matter whether you are purple, green, chartreuse, magenta, turquoise or you know that sort of orangish/brownish/greenish colored crayola, the one that you like never got to use and kept in the back of the box.” (look at me being a good person again)

then your post will get to stay up.

— Smokin Hopium
10:57 pm October 25th, 2009

One can hardly miss it when there is picture of a White suspect vs. a non-description of Black suspect, only giving the description as “white t-shirt and blue jeans” that there is an alterior motive in the reporting.

— What if
11:58 pm October 25th, 2009

Since race as a category has no scientific legitimacy whatsoever it has no business in a news story.

— pgwodeshed
1:18 am October 26th, 2009

“No one is responsible for the actions of others due to sharing the same race or ethnicity”

Unfortunately, the “NO Snitch” policy shields law breakers and spreads complicity throughout the community.

— Hanson Gregory
9:30 am October 26th, 2009

It shouldn’t matter, Ron. I formed that opinion when I meditated on the fact God made all people - black, white, brown, yellow. But we all know that it does. There are bigots of all shades who flood these blogs and even post their color-coded comments on the news stories (why they still seem to evade the moderators, I don’t know.) But I think this seeming need to know the skin color of victims and perps in crime reporting will continue until there is “unilateral disarmament,” and the press and Hollywood can (and should) take the lead here.
I often have respectful disagreements with hs on this site, and so it is again here. I say it is FAR from “a fact” that a white victim (or perp) gets “better press” than a black victim (or perp.) My observation is quite the opposite.
Apparently, skin color matters on the highest levels, or there would be no such thing as “hate crimes.” With the landmark case that mustered the constitutionality of making crimes more punishable depending on “race” factors being among a small handful of exceptions, prosecutors pull the “hate” card almost exclusively when the perp is white and the victim is a minority. As for the press, it almost seems to be a rule. TheUnderboss provided a few examples, there are many more.

— Joe L.
1:29 pm October 26th, 2009

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