Yet another complete waste of tax payers money. And to all of you who want speed ticketing cameras, if these changing speed signs cost 900K to put, in how much do you think highspeed cameras that will hold up in a court of law are going to cost in that many locations?????? Hey while you’re at why not add stop sign cameras and cameras that watch every street for crime. Just watch us all the time 24/7. Then we will do nothing wrong. Thanks “big brother,” but no thanks.

Dan,

“We should outlaw alchohol and cigarettes, salt, and fatty foods too. we could install litter bug cameras”

Apples and oranges. If someone wants to eat, drink, smoke, or whatever themselves into a coma that is their choice and doesn’t affect me. But to all the people who want to drive 60 down my residential street with kids on bikes and skateboards, that does affect me and others.

By your reasoning we should legalize murder, robbery, assault, and every other crime because it’s not possible to catch all those offenders either.

I’m not saying we need a zero-tolerance policy, one mile over and you’re fined. Heck, I’d be happier if people slowed down to 40 in our 25 rather than 50 or 60.

BTW, the red light cameras cost the county or municipality ZERO to install and maintain. These are not without faults, but supposing they are costly to taxpayers is not correct.

St. Louis decision makers are a joke. They cannot do anything right, they try to attack every policy and therefore many of them get overlooked. I.E. St. louis public school system is a joke, not making hgwy 40 wider, and only resurfacing it, downtown village (never going to happen). ST. LOUIS is going to be extremely embarressed when the All Star game is here, then we will see our politicians finally make real decisions when they are on the hot seat to get fired.

There is someone in MoDot leadership who is infatuated with “trendy” new traffic ideas that are simply a waste of time/money… I can cite speed humps in place of stop signs, oddly placed round-abouts, gradiose overpasses, variable speed limits???? The highways are still going to function in a hurry up and wait manner regardless of what these speed limit signs say…besides who obeys the speed limit these days anyway?

Someone needs to find whomever this is and take their budget and apply it to subsidize Metro ridership.

Johnny,

“By your reasoning we should legalize murder, robbery, assault, and every other crime because it’s not possible to catch all those offenders either.”

I don’t see how my reasoning suggests this. you want to talk about comparing apples and oranges, you stretch is farther than mine.

My point is this. I’m not perfect, and I doubt you are either, your gonna try to tell me you have never gone over the speed limit in your life. I personally don’t want a video camera on every corner to bust me for everything I do wrong, it sounds great when its watching your street, but when its watching you on other streets its not so great.

You mention tolerance levels but my point is one thing leads to another, this is already being done in construction sites in Illinois. Where is it gonna stop. you said you should not be ticketed for going 1 mile over the limit, but that is exactly where its gonna lead.

I have kids and people race down my street too. Do I worry about their safety yes. But a world where the government is watching you all the time and slapping your wrist for every infraction is not the world I want to leave to my children.

Dan,

OK, you make a good point. The big brother idea is bothersome, and the erosion of our civil liberties is alarming. I just wish there were some effective way of solving the serious speeding problem in my neighborhood. I suppose I could ask for more traffic cops to patrol my area, but they can’t focus all of their energy on one street. When they do patrol the area for a few days people slow down, but the moment they’re gone people are racing down the street dodging pedestrians like a slalom race. So frustrating.

Johnny -

I live in Arizona and we do, indeed, have radar and cameras that take pic’s and send tickets. Great speed reducer.

What a joke this is. If traffic is gridlocked, who cares if the signs say 40 mph? And when things finally open up, a 60 mph limit will do nothing to keep people from driving 80 mph - like they do already.

Congratulations MoDOT on yet another squandering of taxpayer money. What a bunch of clowns…

“hey why don’t we install monitors in your car, it can send you a ticket if you ever go over the speed limit. We should outlaw alchohol and cigarettes, salt, and fatty foods too. we could install litter bug cameras, you drop your paper, it mails you some paper to replace what you lost. Come on people, you can’t be serious, you really want big brother watching every move you make. Red-light cameras lead to speed cameras, lead to who knows what next. Sounds a little too 1984 for my taste. But we could install those speed monitor device in your car if you like.”

THIS IS RIGHT ON!! I FIND IT TROUBLE THAT SO MANY FORGET THIS SUPPOSED BEN FRANKLIN QUOTE:

1. They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
2. “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
3. “Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.”
4. “He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.”
5. “He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.”
6. “People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.”
7. “If we restrict liberty to attain security we will lose them both.”
8. “Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
9. “He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither.”
10. “Those who would trade in their freedom for their protection deserve neither.”

CHAD CARTER
VOTE4CARTER.COM
314-591-0169

Speed limits are not the solution. Search for information about the German Autobahn and how their fatality rate differs from the US’s. Check this, it’s lower!

Also check out this article about Montana and the changing from no daytime speed limits to permanent speed limits. http://www.hwysafety.com/hwy_montana_2001.htm.

It has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with revenue.