Someone should tell Torry that there are actually nine games left, not eight.

ARGH

this is frustrating.

Holt has been a great player, but he has lost a step.

He dogged Avery before the season started, about having to step up and earn it…
and now that the guy has, Torry is complaining about not getting the ball.

How about earning it Holt?

I know you have been a great player, and until recently a quiet good guy, but come on. Make some plays, show some speed, do something and if you still arnt getting any passes well then you can complain.

Holt saw how Bruce was treated, and is going to make a little more noise than every STL Ram Fan’s favorite player as he exits stage left….Bruce would have been more productive than Holt this year, the way it’s going.

Unfortunately, the NFL is not about fan/player loyalty, it’s about winning…Patriots will dump Brady w/o hesitating at that opportune time that he loses an edge and it doesn’t kill their cap….

I have loved Holt over the years, but he sees the writing on the wall, as he should. I’ll still root for him when he is playing in Carolina, when he is not playing the Rams.

Of course holt isn’t getting the ball as much, he’s the biggest threat on the field so he’s always double covered. Back when Bruce was here you just couldn’t double cover Holt or Bruce ALL of the time. Cover Holt and Bruce would get you. Cover Bruce and Holt would get you. Torry shouldn’t be airing it in the press before saying something to the coaches but he saw how disrespectfully Bruce was treated on his way out and I’m sure that’s in the back of his mind.

Personally I don’t see him going to Carolina. I see him trying to hook up with Bruce and Martz in SF. Bruce is like Torry’s big brother.

“…I’m not going to make a stink about it”.

Isn’t that what you’re doing? If you are frustrated, have a man to man talk with the head coach and OC. If it were still Linehan, I’d say forget it, but with Haslett I think it would be the right way to approach the situation.

Holt would get the ball more if we had a quarterback who took the time to scan the field for open receivers.

I did not hear any complaining (”complain: To express feelings of pain, dissatisfaction, or resentment”) in Holt’s remarks. He said he was surprised (”surprised:to come upon or discover suddenly and unexpectedly”) and frustrated (”frustrated: disappointed; thwarted”). Straight answers. In fact, he said he was not going to make a stink of it.

Please not another cry baby, whinney, I am so mistreated, don’t forget about me, spoiled overpaid professional athlete!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tory, read the newspaper, watch the news, count your blessings. Do you not see the thousands of people who are losing their jobs and homes on a daily basis????
You are a athlete who plays a game for a living and are paid quite well for doing so and if you have any brains are set for life. Please don’t whine about not catching footballs, shut up, get on the field and if you don’t like it quit or leave, it is really that simple.
Mr. Holt as a season ticket holder (yes I help pay your salary) this customer doesn’t want to hear it!!

Torry - look in the mirror. You are being covered by 1 man, will not run hard crossing routes because you don’t like to get hit anymore, will not fight for the ball anymore, and you will pull up short on routes if you think you are going to take a hit - many of your crossing routes you have pulled up when the ball is already in the air which makes Bulger look bad (though Marc is doing a great job of looking bad himself). You have become a very soft, possession receiver at best. Get some balls.

Mike hit the nail on the head!

If he would run with the ball after he catches it. That was always Bruce and Holts downfall after the SB win. Catch the ball and fall down…no yards after the catch.

Huh?

*Have you talked to the coaches about it?

“No, I don’t feel like I need to speak to anybody about that. My body of work speaks for itself. I’m not going to make a stink about it.”

Again, huh? If you don’t feel like you need to speak to anybody about that, what are you doing talking to the press about it? Do you think no one in the Rams organization will read this story?

Hey jealousblues…Tory was not complaining about anything…did you actually read the article? The interviewer even asked him if he had said anything to the coaches and he said no. Apart from that he only answered the questions asked of him. What article did you read anyway?????

Another interview another look at a guy that is a bit miffed. It’s just human nature. This offense is going through some changes. Torry gets the big coverage and Avery gets the easy stuff. Teams will take notice when Avery catches a few more balls and Torry will get his balls.

Ya didn’t hear Ike complaining when Torry was living off of the easy coverage that he got. Of course, I don’t think reporters went looking for it either.

This team is still a long way offensively from that Greatest Show. Some of the breakdowns on this O-Line are just hard to explain and they happen so regularly that Bulger still doesn’t look comfortable. You won’t have that high flying O till those guys start pass blocking again.

About the Greatest Show. I remember going to see that show in Sept of 2000. The Monday night game against the Broncos when Hakim and Holt danced down the sidelines together. Hakim also took a punt back. I told the folks around me that they better suck this up because this is not a type of thing a team can hold. That was a very special group.

Holt, Hakim, and Faulk all had 100+ receiving that night. Ike had 60 and was perfectly happy. If Kurt had not thrown three picks we would have destroyed the Broncos. Ended up being a 41-36 thriller.

This is not what the Rams need with a huge game looming this weekend. The fact is Holt is the Rams best receiver and sees alot of attention from defenses. He is a step slower and needs a little more time to get open which the O line and Bulger will not afford him. As they improve and Avery establishes himself, Holt’s ptoduction will increase. At this stage in his career he can’t just dominate a DB like he use to. Now he’s needs his team and they need him.

you just need to go out Sunday, catch a ball and run through some Cardinal defenders. that will get the playcallers attention. If all the Rams play with intensity through 4 quarters we will win. Arizona may take a slight lead but the Rams can overcome if they stay focused and intense the entire game.

I think its stupid not to talk to your coaches. To be proudful and say “my body of work speaks for itself” is pretty gay. If he talks to them and tells them how he can help his team then they probably put in more deep routes for him.

What really gets me are two things:A) Our dumb media stirs this crap up 2 days before the biggest game of our season for us, and B)Holt airing his dirty laundry for all to hear instead of handling his frustrations in-house.I mean, I just don’t get it. First off, I’d like to know who asked these “hard-hitting” questions, b/c, right ’bout now, I’d like to kick him/her right square in the b@ll$/face. And secondly, Torry has to be a professional here and politely decline to answer said questions like these. And he says he’s not trying to be a distraction? Sorry, bud. Too late. Between these comments, and the ones he made ’bout wanting to play for Carolina when his contract ends, I say, unless he can make an attitude adjustment, and not make comments that could be detrimental to team morale, to go ahead and trade him @ season’s end, for a O-lineman/defensive player, wideout or high draft pick.We, as fans, deserve and need a football culture where positivity reigns and “THE TEAM” is put first and foremost. If ya wanna be a T.O. or a Moss, and are so worried ’bout padding stats, then do us all a favor and STFU and get your bags packed. Bouncer Haslett: Enter stage.

We should be concentrating on 12:00 Sunday and nothing else. Is it a slow news day, why are the reporters asking these questions? Torry just say no comment and dont be so honest. Torry you are still awesome and we need to go win one this Sunday.

Mike, you complain that Bulger doesn’t take the time to scan the field for other options. And I’m sure you complain when Bulger gets sacked because he didn’t get rid of the ball in time. You can’t have it both ways son…

Tory’s ego is damaged…Does anyone remember where “Big Game Holt” got his nickname?? Big Game Holt gave Big Game Holt his nickname…Anyone who has to give himself a nickname has got ego issues….Come on Big Game earn the nic!!!!!!!!!

Catch the ball, fall down. It is time to get someone in there who will actually run with the ball after catching it. Don’t pout Torry, produce! Carolina can’t wait I’m sure.

Get one thing strait guys Torry is still a lethal threat. The league knows this that’s why he is still getting doubled a lot. It is also a reason we’ve been so successful lately. Its a new three threat. Instead of Bruce, Marshall, Torry. Its Avery, Holt, Jackson. Teams cant move eight in the box every play (like Buffalo) cause of Avery’s speed is stretching the field. Teams cant play back on Avery because of Jackson’s running game Torry’s midfield rout running. And teams cant just play run, and double Avery because they are forced to double Torry. It would be great if we had a good tight end, McMicheal getting hurt breaks my heart. Still it will be on the defense this Sunday O-Fence SHOULD take care of business. However all this said Torry has had some really weird drops this year when we’ve needed those great hands most…. We shall see what happens when Sunday comes. LETS GO BOYS. OUR HOUSE, NO PRISONERS.

I would like to add that if Jackson does not play it will be very, VERY, hard to win. Without his running threat everything goes to hell. Plus I like all this talk about how Pittman had a great fill in for Jackson… HHHMMM… no he didn’t. Hes is garbage. Haslett next year get descent #2 back to complement SJ, and help have a remotely close chance of winning us if SJ gets injured. Also I would have loved to see Bruce still in the O-Fence this year. (so would have Bulger).

I think Holt will have changed his tune by the end of the season because teams will start putting a safety over top of Avery so Holt will get the ball on mid range routes 15-18 yard digs and comebacks.

The frustration stems from Torry expecting this high flying offense coming into town but in reality Al Saunders offense focuses on the run. Example: KC he had Priest Holmes and a nice, mobile offensive line. Redskins he had the same with Portis.

All of Saunders’ offensive teams did not focus on a single wide receiver so Torry falsely expected a Mike Martz (throw the ball 45 times a game offense) and got a set the pass up with the run style and spread the ball around the field to multiple positions style of offense.

This will be a non issue at the end of the regular season when the Rams are NFC WEST Champs!!!!

Bob-n-Weave, Torry Holt said eight games because each team plays 16 games and bye week. Total NFL games are 17 games without bye week

did not Kurt Warrner win us a super bowl !!!!!!!

To those haters out there, the man has earned what he expects. Just like anyone who’s been on the job for years he has seniority. He’s still one of the best wide receivers in the world. It’s about respect. Nuff said.

I watched 6 passing plays in the first half last Sunday. I kept my eye on Holt only, and not Bulger. Holt half heartedly ran his passing route. The cornerback backpeddled the whole time at half speed, with his arm reached out to keep Holt in front of him at all times, doing so with his eyes on Holt and Bulger. It wasent a running play, it was a PASSING play. Holt didnt even try to get open. He lolygagged down the field. His lack of hussle said if you’re not going to throw me the ball, I’m not going to try to get open. Playing QB on a team a few years back myself tells me that I have a WR that has quit. BENCH HIM. Bring in the kids.