Comments for Around the Horns http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns Updates the St. Louis Rams from the locker room, training camp, Rams Park and the field. Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:20:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 Comment on Pittman, Leonard, Minor . . . who needs Jackson? by Ramokowski http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/pittman-leonard-minor-who-needs-jackson/#comment-2433 Ramokowski Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:04:13 +0000 http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/pittman-leonard-minor-who-needs-jackson/#comment-2433 Guys, let's keep this in "simple math" format. S. Jackson ranked 90th in 2007 as far as RB total salaries went. If you look at just his BASE salary, it improves all the way to 55th...right behind Moran Norris of the 49ers. WHO? That's right, the number "whatever" back in SF gets more money than Jackson. Who else tops Jackson? Let's see, Kevin Faulk, Marcel Shipp, Mike Alstott, Cecil Sapp (who?), Mack Strong...I can go on...but then I start to tear up a bit. We need to pay Jackson! Period (though I did use an exclamation point). Do you understand that Marcel Shipp would take a PAY CUT if he came to the Rams? If we can't afford HIM, who could we? Finally, because I'm a stat guy, I leave you with this...in 2007, the Rams rank 31st out of 32 NFL teams as far as total salary for a top RB (Jackson). This means every NFL team has a RB making more money than Jackson. The one exception? Ah yes, the Dallas Cowboys. Now let me see, who just got a huge contract this summer? That's right football fans, Marion Barber...the RB for the Dallas Cowboys...fascinating indeed... Guys, let’s keep this in “simple math” format. S. Jackson ranked 90th in 2007 as far as RB total salaries went. If you look at just his BASE salary, it improves all the way to 55th…right behind Moran Norris of the 49ers. WHO? That’s right, the number “whatever” back in SF gets more money than Jackson. Who else tops Jackson? Let’s see, Kevin Faulk, Marcel Shipp, Mike Alstott, Cecil Sapp (who?), Mack Strong…I can go on…but then I start to tear up a bit. We need to pay Jackson! Period (though I did use an exclamation point). Do you understand that Marcel Shipp would take a PAY CUT if he came to the Rams? If we can’t afford HIM, who could we?

Finally, because I’m a stat guy, I leave you with this…in 2007, the Rams rank 31st out of 32 NFL teams as far as total salary for a top RB (Jackson). This means every NFL team has a RB making more money than Jackson. The one exception? Ah yes, the Dallas Cowboys. Now let me see, who just got a huge contract this summer? That’s right football fans, Marion Barber…the RB for the Dallas Cowboys…fascinating indeed…

]]> Comment on Is Pace really on pace? by Rick http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/is-pace-really-on-pace/#comment-2432 Rick Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:56:31 +0000 http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/is-pace-really-on-pace/#comment-2432 What I am wondering is "When are we going to see Donnie Avery"? When the Rams selected him ahead of all the other wide receivers in the draft a lot of experts were scratching there heads. It is already obvious that Desean Jackson and James Hardy are play makers and I have my fingers crossed hoping the Rams draft personel knew what they were doing. The team let Kevin Curtis go and brought in Drew Bennett which was a mistake. Drafted Jimmy Kennedy and Damione Lewis. Mistake, mistake. How many more mistakes can the team take? I hope Avery is a play maker and not another mistake. What I am wondering is “When are we going to see Donnie Avery”? When the Rams selected him ahead of all the other wide receivers in the draft a lot of experts were scratching there heads. It is already obvious that Desean Jackson and James Hardy are play makers and I have my fingers crossed hoping the Rams draft personel knew what they were doing. The team let Kevin Curtis go and brought in Drew Bennett which was a mistake. Drafted Jimmy Kennedy and Damione Lewis. Mistake, mistake. How many more mistakes can the team take? I hope Avery is a play maker and not another mistake.

]]> Comment on Is Pace really on pace? by Daniel James http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/is-pace-really-on-pace/#comment-2431 Daniel James Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:49:19 +0000 http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/is-pace-really-on-pace/#comment-2431 Um, Jackson? And why are all of our players getting injured with Scott Linehan? Does he not have them stretch? Linehan's awful, and I'm not sure I can support this team until they get a real head coach, say, Al Saunders??? Or Marty Schottenheimer, Jimmy Johnson, or Bill Cowher, PLEASE!!!!!!! Um, Jackson? And why are all of our players getting injured with Scott Linehan? Does he not have them stretch? Linehan’s awful, and I’m not sure I can support this team until they get a real head coach, say, Al Saunders??? Or Marty Schottenheimer, Jimmy Johnson, or Bill Cowher, PLEASE!!!!!!!

]]> Comment on Pittman, Leonard, Minor . . . who needs Jackson? by aaron http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/pittman-leonard-minor-who-needs-jackson/#comment-2430 aaron Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:40:00 +0000 http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/pittman-leonard-minor-who-needs-jackson/#comment-2430 People like you Aaron are the reason the Rams can continue to suck and still be mucho profitable. Supporting failure after failure and expecting a different outcome each time is the definition of insanity. Fan is derived from the word fanatic Aaron. This team is hard to sit and watch… not to mention get excited about. And your one of the many reasons why around the NFL Rams fans are know for Bandwagon fairwether fans So dont bitch,moan and complain when the Rams pack up and leave and you are stuck again watching KC and Miami games pre 1995 WHITEY BALL AND WARNER fans drive me nuts in this town People like you Aaron are the reason the Rams can continue to suck and still be mucho profitable. Supporting failure after failure and expecting a different outcome each time is the definition of insanity.
Fan is derived from the word fanatic Aaron. This team is hard to sit and watch… not to mention get excited about.

And your one of the many reasons why around the NFL Rams fans are know for Bandwagon fairwether fans

So dont bitch,moan and complain when the Rams pack up and leave and you are stuck again watching KC and Miami games pre 1995

WHITEY BALL AND WARNER fans drive me nuts in this town

]]> Comment on Pittman, Leonard, Minor . . . who needs Jackson? by Rook http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/pittman-leonard-minor-who-needs-jackson/#comment-2429 Rook Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:26:53 +0000 http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/pittman-leonard-minor-who-needs-jackson/#comment-2429 Uuuhhh....so Aaron, get out much? Why do you care what we say as fans, even if it is negative? Please, I believe railing against a failing orginization is much more productive then ripping your fellow Ram fans for giving a crap! At least we care about the direction of our team, we may seem a little crazy....like Cromwell stated: "Fan is derived from the word fanatic Aaron. This team is hard to sit and watch… not to mention get excited about." Forgive us for actually caring about the Rams Aaron, but if we sat by and didn't care about the who, what, when, why, and the where....well WHY even watch? WHY even pay the ticket prices? WHY even bother? WHY EVEN GET STUCK PAYING FOR THE "ED'S" UPGRADE WHEN YOU HAVE A CRAPPY PRODUCT!? You sound like you don't care about much....do you even vote for the U.S. presidents? Or do you just have such a wonderful life that you support the guy...no matter who's in charge?? Anyways.... "All of you geta life and support the RAMS..no matter who is in charge" That is an attack on your fellow Rams fanatics....don't get us started! If us crazy fans are soooo bad for the moral, uuhh correction, morale of the team and other fans....well, you know what they say, "If you can't take the heat, then get the hell out of the kitchen!" Ram fanatics have every right to complain....oh, and for throwing out the... "Try lacing up pads and taking hits from a Vandenbosch or trying to run up the gu of a folding up O-LINE" Please, I have two torn rotator cuffs and I broke a few fingers playing ball back in the day....I don't need a reminder of what pain feels like or how tough football is to not give a crap about how an orginization is run, that is an irrelevant statement because you have no clue who you are bitching at!? My opinion.....take a few laxatives and exercise more! And I will not ask what you meant about: "Just liek I tell WHITEY BALL FANS…WARNER FANS GETA LIFE AND MOVE ON" Besides the lack of spelling that is obviously riddled throughout your rant, getting racist on a blog of any sort is down right childish and ignorant! Peace....and remember fellow Ram fanatics.....kick and scream as loud as you want, especially since some think we have no lives, ugh! Uuuhhh….so Aaron, get out much? Why do you care what we say as fans, even if it is negative? Please, I believe railing against a failing orginization is much more productive then ripping your fellow Ram fans for giving a crap! At least we care about the direction of our team, we may seem a little crazy….like Cromwell stated:

“Fan is derived from the word fanatic Aaron. This team is hard to sit and watch… not to mention get excited about.”

Forgive us for actually caring about the Rams Aaron, but if we sat by and didn’t care about the who, what, when, why, and the where….well WHY even watch? WHY even pay the ticket prices? WHY even bother? WHY EVEN GET STUCK PAYING FOR THE “ED’S” UPGRADE WHEN YOU HAVE A CRAPPY PRODUCT!? You sound like you don’t care about much….do you even vote for the U.S. presidents? Or do you just have such a wonderful life that you support the guy…no matter who’s in charge?? Anyways….

“All of you geta life and support the RAMS..no matter who is in charge”

That is an attack on your fellow Rams fanatics….don’t get us started! If us crazy fans are soooo bad for the moral, uuhh correction, morale of the team and other fans….well, you know what they say, “If you can’t take the heat, then get the hell out of the kitchen!”

Ram fanatics have every right to complain….oh, and for throwing out the…

“Try lacing up pads and taking hits from a Vandenbosch or trying to run up the gu of a folding up O-LINE”

Please, I have two torn rotator cuffs and I broke a few fingers playing ball back in the day….I don’t need a reminder of what pain feels like or how tough football is to not give a crap about how an orginization is run, that is an irrelevant statement because you have no clue who you are bitching at!? My opinion…..take a few laxatives and exercise more! And I will not ask what you meant about:

“Just liek I tell WHITEY BALL FANS…WARNER FANS GETA LIFE AND MOVE ON”

Besides the lack of spelling that is obviously riddled throughout your rant, getting racist on a blog of any sort is down right childish and ignorant! Peace….and remember fellow Ram fanatics…..kick and scream as loud as you want, especially since some think we have no lives, ugh!

]]> Comment on Is Pace really on pace? by twilson2000 http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/is-pace-really-on-pace/#comment-2428 twilson2000 Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:15:49 +0000 http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/is-pace-really-on-pace/#comment-2428 Scott Linehan is in the wrong profession.He lacks the intangibles,Scott a nice guy and that's the problem.He sure has a boatload of excuses every week.How much longer is the St.Louis press and fan base going to buy into Mr. Innocent Scott Linehan.I think he make a great "Leave it to Beaver" TV dad.But and NFL coach? Scott Linehan is in the wrong profession.He lacks the intangibles,Scott a nice guy and that’s the problem.He sure has a boatload of excuses every week.How much longer is the St.Louis press and fan base going to buy into Mr. Innocent Scott Linehan.I think he make a great “Leave it to Beaver” TV dad.But and NFL coach?

]]> Comment on Pittman, Leonard, Minor . . . who needs Jackson? by Cromwell http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/pittman-leonard-minor-who-needs-jackson/#comment-2427 Cromwell Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:06:32 +0000 http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/pittman-leonard-minor-who-needs-jackson/#comment-2427 People like you Aaron are the reason the Rams can continue to suck and still be mucho profitable. Supporting failure after failure and expecting a different outcome each time is the definition of insanity. Fan is derived from the word fanatic Aaron. This team is hard to sit and watch... not to mention get excited about. People like you Aaron are the reason the Rams can continue to suck and still be mucho profitable. Supporting failure after failure and expecting a different outcome each time is the definition of insanity.
Fan is derived from the word fanatic Aaron. This team is hard to sit and watch… not to mention get excited about.

]]> Comment on Pittman, Leonard, Minor . . . who needs Jackson? by aaron http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/pittman-leonard-minor-who-needs-jackson/#comment-2426 aaron Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:22:09 +0000 http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/pittman-leonard-minor-who-needs-jackson/#comment-2426 This is preseason football okay fellow bloggers and fanatsy footballers Half of you Bulger/Jackson/Linehan/Rams haters think taking hits, bumps,bruises,learning new playbooks,dealing with the media,staying healthy and in shape and dealing with a**h**** like most of you leaving these sh*tty comments helps the players moral and fans base So once again blogger universe and fanatsy fatballers prove my point..negative loser mortality Try lacing up pads and taking hits from a Vandenbosch or trying to run up the gu of a folding up O-LINE Just liek I tell WHITEY BALL FANS...WARNER FANS GETA LIFE AND MOVE ON Do you think its 1982,85,87 all over again Do you think its 99,2000,01,02?? Please get a life You dont want to support a HOME TOWN NFL TEAM Then dont and quit leaving crappy messages on here Because of sh*tty messages like this makes me wonder if the Rams did move, how would you bloggers and fatballers work in your loser life day by not being able to sign in on STLTODAY.COM to trash a NFL home town team All of you geta life and support the RAMS..no matter who is in charge This is preseason football okay fellow bloggers and fanatsy footballers
Half of you Bulger/Jackson/Linehan/Rams haters think taking hits, bumps,bruises,learning new playbooks,dealing with the media,staying healthy and in shape and dealing with a**h**** like most of you leaving these sh*tty comments helps the players moral and fans base

So once again blogger universe and fanatsy fatballers prove my point..negative loser mortality
Try lacing up pads and taking hits from a Vandenbosch or trying to run up the gu of a folding up O-LINE
Just liek I tell WHITEY BALL FANS…WARNER FANS GETA LIFE AND MOVE ON
Do you think its 1982,85,87 all over again
Do you think its 99,2000,01,02??
Please get a life
You dont want to support a HOME TOWN NFL TEAM
Then dont and quit leaving crappy messages on here
Because of sh*tty messages like this makes me wonder if the Rams did move, how would you bloggers and fatballers work in your loser life day by not being able to sign in on STLTODAY.COM to trash a NFL home town team

All of you geta life and support the RAMS..no matter who is in charge

]]> Comment on Leckey is Rams’ feel-good story by Bozo http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/leckey-is-rams-feel-good-story/#comment-2425 Bozo Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:37:34 +0000 http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/leckey-is-rams-feel-good-story/#comment-2425 I'm sick of this crap about Steven Jackson "honoring his word" because he has a signed contract. When has a signed contract ever stopped a team executive from cutting a player with several years left on his deal? Remember Isaac Bruce? He had a signed contract, and the Rams didn't "honor their word" and honor the contract. The NFL is about money first and football second. Get over the money part, and you'll enjoy the game a lot more. Who cares how much each player gets? The ticket prices will go up each year no matter what. Just win baby. I’m sick of this crap about Steven Jackson “honoring his word” because he has a signed contract. When has a signed contract ever stopped a team executive from cutting a player with several years left on his deal? Remember Isaac Bruce? He had a signed contract, and the Rams didn’t “honor their word” and honor the contract.

The NFL is about money first and football second. Get over the money part, and you’ll enjoy the game a lot more. Who cares how much each player gets? The ticket prices will go up each year no matter what. Just win baby.

]]> Comment on Is Pace really on pace? by RAMBLES http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/is-pace-really-on-pace/#comment-2424 RAMBLES Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:20:05 +0000 http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2008/08/is-pace-really-on-pace/#comment-2424 Brown sure seems to be taking his time. I wouldn\'t be heartbroken if he sits. I like Bartell better than Brown at corner anyway. Is Brown really hurt or is he just pulling a \"Jackson\" and dogging it? Brown sure seems to be taking his time. I wouldn\’t be heartbroken if he sits. I like Bartell better than Brown at corner anyway. Is Brown really hurt or is he just pulling a \”Jackson\” and dogging it?

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