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08.28.2008 12:33 am

Pujols Stands Up for STL

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Good evening from Busch Stadium. What a comeback. What a ballgame. The Cardinals take it, 5-3, from the Brewers to keep hope alive in their desperate quest for the Wild Card playoff spot.

The Cardinals’ four-run rally in the eighth to erase a 3-1 deficit was the story of the night. And the crucial win put them to 3.5 games behind the Brewers, which is a lot better place to be than 5.5 games with 28 contests remaining.

But almost as compelling was the drama on the field after Milwaukee reliever Carlos Villanueva got Joe Mather to pop up to hush a bases-loaded threat and end the seventh inning.

The Cardinals say Villanueva pumped his fists, flexed, and pointed into their dugout.

Cardinals first baseman Albert Pujols was deeply offended and confronted Villanueva as the teams were leaving the field at the end of the 7th.

For those who missed any of the post-game sound on FSN Midwest, I’ll try to provide an unoffocial transcript of Pujols’ comments. I did some editing and left out some of the loose ends that weren’t important. I also wrote in some questions here in an attempt to give Pujols’ comments the proper context:

Q: What happened there with you and Villanueva?

Pujols: “When they start pointing into the dugout, and doing and saying all the things that he was saying, a guy that respects the game like myself, I don’t appreciate that. And I had to let him know. And I guess he did us a favor because he woke up a sleeping giant. We came back and responded with four runs in the eighth inning. They have a young ballclub. They’re pretty good. I respect the way they play the game. And when you see a guy disrespecting the game – obviously they pretty much beat us all year long. You don’t have to do a stupid thing like that to disrespect this game. I let him know I didn’t appreciate it. He was still yelling and talking crap and running away. I wanted him to stop and face me. I respect this game. And I didn’t appreciate the way he disrespected us. I didn’t care if he yelled, but when you start pointing into the dugout, that;s not professional right there.”

Q: Was this something that Pujols felt he had to do as the leader of the ballclub?

Pujols: ”If I see anybody on our ballclub doing stupid stuff like that, I’m going to pull them to the side, and I’m going to (get) into their face. You don’t do that on this level.”

Q: Does Pujols really believe that Villanueva ‘woke a sleeping giant?’

Pujols: “He did us a favor. We came back and we pulled it the through. And I’m glad he did that. So I congratulate him for doing that to us.”

Q: What did Pujols say to Villanueva?

Pujols: “I told him to shut up and go to the dugout, he doesn’t have to do that. That’s when he said something in Spanish that I don’t want to say to you guys. But that’s when I got fired up. I told him to stop and come and say that to my face, but he was running away. That’s allright. I’m going to see him later.”

Q: Did Villanueva curse Pujols?

Pujols: “Yeah, very much. But I didn’t care about the things he said to me. It was more that he disrespected my team by pointing into the dugout. He can curse me out and say whatever he wants. I don’t care. But when he disrespects my teammates I need to stand up for my teammates. I don’t appreciate that.”

Note from Bernie: I was wondering about Pujols’ tendency to stare at his home runs at times … which has drawn criticism from some media and fans. Isn’t that showing up the pitcher? Isn’t that disrespectful? Seems that Albert goes too far at times. But before anyone could ask that, specifically, Pujols addressed the difference — at least as he sees it:

Pujols:  ”I don’t care, I don’t care about (Villanueva) getting excited. It’s the same as hitting a ball out of the ballpark and showing off to the pitcher. But when you start pointing and doing a bunch of crap and doing it to the other dugout … I don’t care if he would have pointed to their dugout and gotten fired up. It’s a big series. It was a big out he got with the bases loaded. He could have done whatever he wanted by pointing to their dugout and getting fired up. But he pointed to the wrong way, to our dugout. I didn’t like that. I had to stand up for my teammates.”

Pujols’ gesture wasn’t overlooked by teammates.

Catcher Yadier Molina heard what Villanueva said to Pujols, and began to bark at the Brewers pitcher.

And Cardinals third baseman Troy Glaus said: “Albert is the leader of this team and he stood up for his teammates. It was nice to see.”

OK, a few comments from this here scribe on the episode:

* While Pujols’ actions were admirable — very much so — I think it’s a real stretch to believe the 8th inning rally was a direct result of what happened at the end of the 7th when Villanueva made a fool of himself. I think the Cardinals were pretty desperate at that point; they just had to win that game. While Glaus conceded that “a little (motivational) fire doesn’t hurt,” he politely contested the notion that Villanueva caused the Cardinals to raise their agression and their game.

“Lookit, we’re going to play hard no matter what,” Glaus said. “We’re not going to put out any more effort just because something like that happened. That’s not who we are or how we go about playing the game.”I know that goes against an attractive storyline, but I think Glaus is right …* No, the 8th inning comeback wasn’t ignited by Villanueva. It was ignited by Pujols, who had a great AB against tough RH Milwaukee reliever David Riske, drilling one to right-center for an opposite field double. Pujols’ leadership in confronting Villanueva wouldn’t have meant much unless Pujols, the great hitter, stood up to stroke that double to get something positive underway in the 8th. Ryan Ludwick - who absolutely should be the full-time cleanup hitter — followed with his own double to make it 3-2. Glaus singled in Luddy to tie it at 3-3. And  Glaus made a heads-up baserunning move, taking second base on CF Mike Cameron’s throw home. Then Molina chipped in with an unselfish and smart AB, pushing the ball to the right side for a 4-3 ground out that moved Glaus to third.  Next, manager Tony La Russa won the manager’s duel against Milwaukee’s Ned Yost. With LH hitting Skip Schumaker up, Yost brought in lefty reliever Brian Shouse. Skip doesn’t hit lefties well, so La Russa countered with someone who does: infielder Aaron Miles, a .311 hitter against LHP. And Miles was 2 for 4 against Shouse. Miles didn’t have a great AB, but he chopped a ground ball to shortstop J.J. Hardy, who hurried his throw home to nab Glaus. The throw short-hopped catcher Jason Kendall, and Glaus scored for a 4-3 STL lead. Bottom line: Miles got it done. And after a nifty SAC bunt by pinch-hitter Braden Looper, Felipe Lopez singled to in Miles to make it 5-3. The Cardinals played intelligent, opportunistic, sharply executed baseball in that home half of the 8th. La Russa used his personnel the right way. A pitcher, Looper, came off the bench to execute a SAC bunt. Glaus ran the bases perfectly. The thumpers (Pujols and Ludwick) got the ball flying. Miles put the ball in play. Lopez did what he had to do. Molina gave himself up to move Glaus over. I’m probably forgetting something; just about everyone who stepped on the field for the Cardinals in the 8th put in their piece.

Did the chucklehead Villanueva incite the Cardinals? Maybe.

But I’d like to think that Pujols got ‘em going, and the Cardinals kicked in and played an excellent inning of baseball.

* One more thing: I don’t understand the Brewers. I just don’t. Really, I admire that team and its talent. Doug Melvin is one of the best guys in the game and an excellent GM. There are so many good players on that roster. But why do the Brewers always have to pull stunts? Why do they have to go knucklehead on us so often? What’s up with yanking their shirts out of their pants on the field as soon as they win a game, which, despite what they claim, really is an insult to the other team? What’s up with some of the showboat HR trots? What’s up with a journeyman like Villanueva gesturing wildly and cursing in the direction of the STL dugout? I don’t understand why this talented team feels that it needs to act up like NBA bad boy Ron Artest, or something. I don’t understand why this Milwaukee team feels the need to be controversial. I don’t understand the arrogance, considering that the Brewers have won NOTHING since 1982. And I don’t understand how Yost continues to allow it to happen. The Brewers will probably make the playoffs. They are that good. But we must ask: can you fellas at least hold off on the showboating until you actually win something?

Oh, and one more thing before I go.

Two words: Chris Perez.

Thanks for reading, and sorry I broke my vow to write shorter blogs… but I guessed you might want to see all of Pujols’ comnents.

-B

181 comments

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Ah, gives this insomniac something to read. And I don’t mind the long blogs. I’m just happy Albert and the guys got the win, Troy being in it, he’s been having issues at the plate and at 3rd. Chris Perez makes the 9th inning fun to watch again.

— tlg80
1:04 am August 28th, 2008

thanks as always, bernie for the informative blog…. i don’t think the incident with Villanueva and Pujols was the sole reason for the comeback but i think it helped…they just couldn’t get the job done with runners in scoring position before the 8th inning and i think they got a spark, after that punk had to yell at the cardinals dugout …i guess the brewers don’t like when albert is angry ….

i wish the brewers had some sort of class there..but i just can’t find it..i like cory hart, hardy , sheets..those guys play hard and don’t try to show up the other team..everybody else, i can’t say the same about..ned yost has no control over them whatsoever … just seems odd he was under bobby cox for a few years, bobby wouldn’t allow any of this crap to happen….but anyways

chris perez = cardinal closing stud for years to come.. other than the double he gave up he was unhittable

— sadsushi
1:04 am August 28th, 2008

Oh, I forgot to add something. (oops) The Brewers are a good team, I can’t understand why they act like that either. Drives me crazy. Mobbing home plate, yeah, untucking your shirt, can’t you wait until you’re in the locker room to do that? I’d be mad if The Cardinals did that.

— tlg80
1:08 am August 28th, 2008

how about 3 words….Chris FREAKING Perez!!!!!

— brainalishi
2:15 am August 28th, 2008

Bernie, no need to apologize for breaking your vow. I for one like your blogs no matter how long or how short they are. I thank you for writing all of Albert’s comments. To me, it really helped to bring more clarity to the squabble between him and Carlos Villanueva. I too don’t understand why the Brew Crew has to be so arrogant. No excuse for that kind of classless, unsportsmanlike unprofessional behavior. Speaking of gestures, whether they be obscene or not, one particullar player gesture comes to my mind. Remember the Garry Templeton obscene gesture to Cards fans at the old Busch Stadium in 1981? And what later happened to him? He got traded on December 10, 1981 to the Padres along with Sixto Lezcano and a player to be named (Luis DeLeon) for Ozzie Smith, Steve Mura and a player to be named (Al Olmsted). My point is to me it’s ironic that these gestures - 27 years apart - have helped ignite the Cards when the Cards needed to be ignited. Templeton’s helped the Cards to win in 1982 and only GOD above knows just how far this latest ignition will take our Cards in 2008.

To all, sorry for my long comment. I just wanted to share a little food for thought. Go Cards!

— Louie Bird 17
3:33 am August 28th, 2008

Just one more thing. I think we have to give some credit to Villanueva for acting obnoxious and the rest of the credit goes to the Cards for knowing what to do about it and when. I too would much rather give Sir Albert and the Cards all the credit but we have to be realistic. Without Carlos’ 7th inning foolishness, the Cards might not have went on to win the all important game. Albert’s not really known for late game heroics as the vast majority of the time he’s been walked - either intentionally or the ever-so-famous unintentional intentioanl.

Try these three words: Chris Habanero Perez!!!

— Louie Bird 17
4:10 am August 28th, 2008

I have to agree with these comments Bernie and your columns today were great! Thanks for keeping us so well informed. I felt a lot of the excitement and energy of the game due to the writers and excellent photographs of Chris Lee.

Like tig80 I am often up early and topping that I live 1590 miles from Busch, so in the summer (OK all winter too) I first turn to you, Derrick, Joe and Gordo as the source of the News of Los Birdos.

Having lived in Mexico for 2 years as a young man I can imagine what was said by Villlanueva. What most Americans don’t understand is the personal feud that is now in place between those two. now and forever, UNTIL Villanueva apologizes to Albert personally. These things are a matter of respect and this is held in very different manner that we do here. Latinos may be poor but they are clean and reverent. They accept things like infirmity with an attitude of humility and “God’s will” which we driven Gringos mostly don’t get….so Albert was raised in this culture and has a ton of it in his background. Albert has achieved a level of greatness which places him in a position of leadership. And his personal ethics show a deep sense of pride but it is also demonstrated with great class and respect for other players and teams but above all the game.
I would not want to be Sr. Villanueva facing Albert again this year. He is very lucky the Brew Crew doesn’t have any more games against us (unless of course - a single game tie-breaker were to become necessary). I could see a screaming line drive off the bat of Albert and the ball inserted right in Sr. Villanueva’s mouth or perhaps other places.

Choteau, Montana

— MTBleedRed18
5:39 am August 28th, 2008

Thank you Señor Villanueva . . . . idiot.

Unfair to expect a franchise to “act like you’ve been there before” when your oldest player - 39-year old Brian Shouse - was a pimple-popping 14 year old the last time you’d been there.

Hell, Villanueva wasn’t even part of a Planned Pregnancy program yet.

— PawPaw
5:56 am August 28th, 2008

Remember this moment…its the start of the Card’s playoff drive, and the Brewer’s collapse.

I don’t think Villanueva caused the rally….but, if you can cause dissention in the brewer’s clubhouse by saying it did, then why not blame it?

Can we hold off the mets?

so, will it be until next spring when Tony finally annoits Perez the closer?

— mat_ryan@swbell.net
6:12 am August 28th, 2008

“Just one more thing. I think we have to give some credit to Villanueva for acting obnoxious and the rest of the credit goes to the Cards for knowing what to do about it and when. I too would much rather give Sir Albert and the Cards all the credit but we have to be realistic.”

^ That’s exactly right, Louie Bird, In 16 innings of play against the Brewers prior to the incident, the Cardinals had been outscored 15 to 1 and had gone, IIRC, 1-15 with runners in scoring position with 15 LOB (an oddly beautiful symmetry, no?) with some sloppy play, especially on Tuesday. Immediately following ‘the incident’, they scored four smartly earned runs, quadrupling the combined output of their previous 16 innings of play.

IMO the Cardinals were beaten up mentally; a 12-0 drubbing for your seventh straight loss to a division opponent can do that, especially when you’re currently losing *again* a game your ace started. Villanueva’s antics got Pujols fired up, and credit El Hombre (with all due respect to D. Goold) and the rest of the team with harnessing that energy and channeling it into something positive.

The incident absolutely sparked the team. Perhaps that’s an indictment of sorts - it shouldn’t take an insult in a series that’s almost 90% complete to get these guys fired up about playing their closest (in the standings) division rival late in the season. But I’ll take the results anyway.

-RBB

— RedBirdBrain
6:42 am August 28th, 2008

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