Pujols Stands Up for STL
Good evening from Busch Stadium. What a comeback. What a ballgame. The Cardinals take it, 5-3, from the Brewers to keep hope alive in their desperate quest for the Wild Card playoff spot.
The Cardinals’ four-run rally in the eighth to erase a 3-1 deficit was the story of the night. And the crucial win put them to 3.5 games behind the Brewers, which is a lot better place to be than 5.5 games with 28 contests remaining.
But almost as compelling was the drama on the field after Milwaukee reliever Carlos Villanueva got Joe Mather to pop up to hush a bases-loaded threat and end the seventh inning.
The Cardinals say Villanueva pumped his fists, flexed, and pointed into their dugout.
Cardinals first baseman Albert Pujols was deeply offended and confronted Villanueva as the teams were leaving the field at the end of the 7th.
For those who missed any of the post-game sound on FSN Midwest, I’ll try to provide an unoffocial transcript of Pujols’ comments. I did some editing and left out some of the loose ends that weren’t important. I also wrote in some questions here in an attempt to give Pujols’ comments the proper context:
Q: What happened there with you and Villanueva?
Pujols: “When they start pointing into the dugout, and doing and saying all the things that he was saying, a guy that respects the game like myself, I don’t appreciate that. And I had to let him know. And I guess he did us a favor because he woke up a sleeping giant. We came back and responded with four runs in the eighth inning. They have a young ballclub. They’re pretty good. I respect the way they play the game. And when you see a guy disrespecting the game – obviously they pretty much beat us all year long. You don’t have to do a stupid thing like that to disrespect this game. I let him know I didn’t appreciate it. He was still yelling and talking crap and running away. I wanted him to stop and face me. I respect this game. And I didn’t appreciate the way he disrespected us. I didn’t care if he yelled, but when you start pointing into the dugout, that;s not professional right there.”
Q: Was this something that Pujols felt he had to do as the leader of the ballclub?
Pujols: ”If I see anybody on our ballclub doing stupid stuff like that, I’m going to pull them to the side, and I’m going to (get) into their face. You don’t do that on this level.”
Q: Does Pujols really believe that Villanueva ‘woke a sleeping giant?’
Pujols: “He did us a favor. We came back and we pulled it the through. And I’m glad he did that. So I congratulate him for doing that to us.”
Q: What did Pujols say to Villanueva?
Pujols: “I told him to shut up and go to the dugout, he doesn’t have to do that. That’s when he said something in Spanish that I don’t want to say to you guys. But that’s when I got fired up. I told him to stop and come and say that to my face, but he was running away. That’s allright. I’m going to see him later.”
Q: Did Villanueva curse Pujols?
Pujols: “Yeah, very much. But I didn’t care about the things he said to me. It was more that he disrespected my team by pointing into the dugout. He can curse me out and say whatever he wants. I don’t care. But when he disrespects my teammates I need to stand up for my teammates. I don’t appreciate that.”
Note from Bernie: I was wondering about Pujols’ tendency to stare at his home runs at times … which has drawn criticism from some media and fans. Isn’t that showing up the pitcher? Isn’t that disrespectful? Seems that Albert goes too far at times. But before anyone could ask that, specifically, Pujols addressed the difference — at least as he sees it:
Pujols: ”I don’t care, I don’t care about (Villanueva) getting excited. It’s the same as hitting a ball out of the ballpark and showing off to the pitcher. But when you start pointing and doing a bunch of crap and doing it to the other dugout … I don’t care if he would have pointed to their dugout and gotten fired up. It’s a big series. It was a big out he got with the bases loaded. He could have done whatever he wanted by pointing to their dugout and getting fired up. But he pointed to the wrong way, to our dugout. I didn’t like that. I had to stand up for my teammates.”
Pujols’ gesture wasn’t overlooked by teammates.
Catcher Yadier Molina heard what Villanueva said to Pujols, and began to bark at the Brewers pitcher.
And Cardinals third baseman Troy Glaus said: “Albert is the leader of this team and he stood up for his teammates. It was nice to see.”
OK, a few comments from this here scribe on the episode:
* While Pujols’ actions were admirable — very much so — I think it’s a real stretch to believe the 8th inning rally was a direct result of what happened at the end of the 7th when Villanueva made a fool of himself. I think the Cardinals were pretty desperate at that point; they just had to win that game. While Glaus conceded that “a little (motivational) fire doesn’t hurt,” he politely contested the notion that Villanueva caused the Cardinals to raise their agression and their game.
“Lookit, we’re going to play hard no matter what,” Glaus said. “We’re not going to put out any more effort just because something like that happened. That’s not who we are or how we go about playing the game.”I know that goes against an attractive storyline, but I think Glaus is right …* No, the 8th inning comeback wasn’t ignited by Villanueva. It was ignited by Pujols, who had a great AB against tough RH Milwaukee reliever David Riske, drilling one to right-center for an opposite field double. Pujols’ leadership in confronting Villanueva wouldn’t have meant much unless Pujols, the great hitter, stood up to stroke that double to get something positive underway in the 8th. Ryan Ludwick - who absolutely should be the full-time cleanup hitter — followed with his own double to make it 3-2. Glaus singled in Luddy to tie it at 3-3. And Glaus made a heads-up baserunning move, taking second base on CF Mike Cameron’s throw home. Then Molina chipped in with an unselfish and smart AB, pushing the ball to the right side for a 4-3 ground out that moved Glaus to third. Next, manager Tony La Russa won the manager’s duel against Milwaukee’s Ned Yost. With LH hitting Skip Schumaker up, Yost brought in lefty reliever Brian Shouse. Skip doesn’t hit lefties well, so La Russa countered with someone who does: infielder Aaron Miles, a .311 hitter against LHP. And Miles was 2 for 4 against Shouse. Miles didn’t have a great AB, but he chopped a ground ball to shortstop J.J. Hardy, who hurried his throw home to nab Glaus. The throw short-hopped catcher Jason Kendall, and Glaus scored for a 4-3 STL lead. Bottom line: Miles got it done. And after a nifty SAC bunt by pinch-hitter Braden Looper, Felipe Lopez singled to in Miles to make it 5-3. The Cardinals played intelligent, opportunistic, sharply executed baseball in that home half of the 8th. La Russa used his personnel the right way. A pitcher, Looper, came off the bench to execute a SAC bunt. Glaus ran the bases perfectly. The thumpers (Pujols and Ludwick) got the ball flying. Miles put the ball in play. Lopez did what he had to do. Molina gave himself up to move Glaus over. I’m probably forgetting something; just about everyone who stepped on the field for the Cardinals in the 8th put in their piece.
Did the chucklehead Villanueva incite the Cardinals? Maybe.
But I’d like to think that Pujols got ‘em going, and the Cardinals kicked in and played an excellent inning of baseball.
* One more thing: I don’t understand the Brewers. I just don’t. Really, I admire that team and its talent. Doug Melvin is one of the best guys in the game and an excellent GM. There are so many good players on that roster. But why do the Brewers always have to pull stunts? Why do they have to go knucklehead on us so often? What’s up with yanking their shirts out of their pants on the field as soon as they win a game, which, despite what they claim, really is an insult to the other team? What’s up with some of the showboat HR trots? What’s up with a journeyman like Villanueva gesturing wildly and cursing in the direction of the STL dugout? I don’t understand why this talented team feels that it needs to act up like NBA bad boy Ron Artest, or something. I don’t understand why this Milwaukee team feels the need to be controversial. I don’t understand the arrogance, considering that the Brewers have won NOTHING since 1982. And I don’t understand how Yost continues to allow it to happen. The Brewers will probably make the playoffs. They are that good. But we must ask: can you fellas at least hold off on the showboating until you actually win something?
Oh, and one more thing before I go.
Two words: Chris Perez.
Thanks for reading, and sorry I broke my vow to write shorter blogs… but I guessed you might want to see all of Pujols’ comnents.
-B


I don’t have a pony in this race but my cousin, a die-hard Cards fan told me I had to read how stupid all of this sounds.
This whole thing is ridiculous. It all comes off as the bully staring down the kid he used to beat up that hit the growth spurt and is pushing back. Now the bully doesn’t like being picked on. realankiel- You’re making Cardinal fans look like morons with your posts.
Brewer fans- I’d be careful about shoveling any dirt on anyone until you’ve wrapped something up … I wouldn’t mess with karma if I were you. It’s also classless to talk about death … quite the urinating contest.
Great read.
And to the writer of this blog- very classy responses. Love the weak attempt at a parting shot on the Brewers (can’t believe they’re only 3.5 up on a rebuilding STL team)- I don’t follow either team closely but I do follow baseball. Milwaukee has the 5th best record in baseball; your attempt to make it sound like their inability to run away from the Cardinals is weak; the Cardinals have simply been good this year.
And rebuilding? They have one every day position player under 28 and maybe one or two pitchers under that number. I thought rebuilding meant getting younger and building for the future.
I agree Villanueva was out of line, but the Cardinals should not point fingers when four of them are pointing back at them. Besides, Villanueva was pointing to Kendall for helping him out of the inning. It’s amazing Pujols doesn’t mind posing and watching his majestic home runs when he crushes one against a pitcher, which isn’t exactly a sign of respect. Or pounding his chest and pointing to a dead relative. LaRussa shows no respect for the game by slumping over his steering wheel drunk during spring training.
Get over it Cardinal fans. I thought you had more class than Cub fans. I’m starting to wonder.
Louie Bird and therealdealankiel,
I completely agree that the comments about Buck and Hancock were totally unwarranted and they should have never been brought up. These boards always turn to things that have nothing to do with baseball. But Louie Bird, how can you say that because CV got overly excited and stupid that Card fans should be able to rip on Brewer fans for things other than baseball because that was a direct insult to you? You honestly take it that serious as a fan? Should I take it that serious that last year and in the game last night, your manager started to play bean ball again or that Pujols struts as much as any player in baseball?
I could care less because that is part of baseball. Even though I have a bias opinion I still think that this is all just sour grapes coming from Cards fans. You guys have whooped us since weve been in the NL. Why so angry, because were finally better than you for one season. I promise you it will go back to normal in a couple of years and you’ll be whooping us again.
realdeal, I like one of your last posts. You added a really good analogy to my point before, the Brewers to the Cards are like the Rams to the Packers. The only difference is that there is a salary cap in football and the playing field is even, and in baseball a small market like Milwaukee will never be able to compete on a regular basis because we can’t afford are own guys like CC and Sheets because of the stupid system.
That is why so many Brewer fans are excited because this is the best year (maybe next year if they sign one of the two pitchers and get gallardo back) for us to make some noise. Once again that doesn’t make us bandwagoners, we just see a light at the end of the tunnel that is almost never there. I know baseball is adored in STL but if you knew your team would only have a chance to make the playoffs in 2017 and 2018 and every year from now until then you wouldn’t ever get to .500 you would not be as excited. Guaranteed. It’s human nature. You can’t blame Brewer fans for being more excited this year than in years past. Weve been drenched in anticipation for a few years now, its not just like we all jumped on board when we swept your team a month ago.
Did StL-Today turn into the “Milwaukee Today” website? I can’t believe how Brewer-heavy the posts are on here. Guess it just goes to show–again–how classless the team and its fanbase are to go trolling on another city’s newspaper site just to rub in the Brewers’ successes some more. What do you care what the STL fans have to say? If we’re such a bunch of classless, hypocritical, booze-drinking, steroids-admiring yahoos, then why would you waste your time coming on this website? Have some class and be good sports (good sportsmanship applies to winning with class and respect, as well as losing with dignity) and go home and celebrate with your own kind and let us cope the way we want to.
Touche Touche Idomino
“As good as the Brewers are, and they are damned good (can’t believe they’re only 3.5 up on a rebuilding STL team)”
Thanks for pointing this out midwestbball.
Bernie,
You are something special. Are you a columnist or do you just have a blog? You are one of the least professional, biased sportswriters I have ever read in my life. Your original blog that has started this all off is just so ridiculous and whiny, and now your comment posts are backhanded comments. The Brewers are good but you can’t believe their only 3.5 up on your rebuilding team. Give me a break Bernie.
Just like midwestbball said, the Cards are older than the Brewers and almost every everyday player is over 28. How is that a rebuild? Have you looked back at your blog and your comments, and realized your a biased knob? I looked back at some of my comments and realized I was being a know so it should come easier to you since you’re suppose to be a professional sportswriter.
Right back at you Cardinal fans
http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/archive/2008/08/28/what-cards-really-hate-losing-to-brewers.aspx
Why are you Brewers fans so thick-headed?! Are you that egotistical that you think we are crying in our beer because Milwaukee has beat us more often than not this year? That’s baseball–it goes in cycles and the Cards are retooling. Most fans didn’t expect the team to be even this good in ‘08. I can’t speak for everyone, but what I object to–and I think what many fans object to–is that the Milwaukee Brewers do not have the credentials to be acting the way they are. The St. Louis Cardinals are a storied franchise with TEN World Series Titles. Those are credentials. Albert Pujols has all kinds of hardware and records (and some would argue he doesn’t have as many as he deserves). Those are credentials. Until Ryan Braun wins a few things, he doesn’t get to admire his homeruns. Most young players have the humility to understand that they haven’t earned that right yet. Our own Joe Mather recently said that very thing after hitting a big HR for St. Louis. Milwaukee has not won anything yet. When the Brewers do have some credentials, then they can get away with some stuff. But, until then they just look like a bunch of upstart wannabe’s who want to talk the talk but haven’t yet walked the walk. And as for the Milwaukee fans, year after year we’ve seen the stadium in Milwaukee half full (or less) and yet suddenly the Brewers are finally having a winning year and fans abound. Fill your stadium when the team ISN’T winning and then YOU’LL have some credentials.
WOW, 148 and counting comments….you really got us go’n Bernie;
Here are my thoughts on the matter: The Brewers are a ‘bush league’ club. Due to being a ‘young’ club they are a bit immature. Like an adolescent they have an attitude and they can’t help themselves when they show it. Yeah, they may be in their twenties, but they are playing ball at the highest level. They are under the pressure of a pennant race and they just do not know how to handle it. If there is anybody to blame, it should be their manager and coaching staff. Yost and Simmons should be giving training on “MLB Etiquette 101″. They were promoted to the big leagues while apparently skipping that class. I just don’t think they understand that their bush league antics are not a welcome scene at the BIG LEAGUE level.
Thanks for sharing Alberts interview. I missed some of it. And Bernie; you do not ever have to apologize for your lengthy blog entry’s. Just continue let the ink flow as your gut tells you because that is what makes your work great to read. It is your talented gift to us fans. THANKS and GOD BLESS….
Its funny that you describe the Brewers as ‘bush league’ when they are the team that chose not to retaliate when the CarDUInals drilled Braun in the ribs. Funny. You CarDUInal fans and writers revealed to me today that you are just a bunch of hypocritical babies like cubs fans. I hope the CarDUInals rot in last place for a century.