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08.28.2008 12:33 am

Pujols Stands Up for STL

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Good evening from Busch Stadium. What a comeback. What a ballgame. The Cardinals take it, 5-3, from the Brewers to keep hope alive in their desperate quest for the Wild Card playoff spot.

The Cardinals’ four-run rally in the eighth to erase a 3-1 deficit was the story of the night. And the crucial win put them to 3.5 games behind the Brewers, which is a lot better place to be than 5.5 games with 28 contests remaining.

But almost as compelling was the drama on the field after Milwaukee reliever Carlos Villanueva got Joe Mather to pop up to hush a bases-loaded threat and end the seventh inning.

The Cardinals say Villanueva pumped his fists, flexed, and pointed into their dugout.

Cardinals first baseman Albert Pujols was deeply offended and confronted Villanueva as the teams were leaving the field at the end of the 7th.

For those who missed any of the post-game sound on FSN Midwest, I’ll try to provide an unoffocial transcript of Pujols’ comments. I did some editing and left out some of the loose ends that weren’t important. I also wrote in some questions here in an attempt to give Pujols’ comments the proper context:

Q: What happened there with you and Villanueva?

Pujols: “When they start pointing into the dugout, and doing and saying all the things that he was saying, a guy that respects the game like myself, I don’t appreciate that. And I had to let him know. And I guess he did us a favor because he woke up a sleeping giant. We came back and responded with four runs in the eighth inning. They have a young ballclub. They’re pretty good. I respect the way they play the game. And when you see a guy disrespecting the game – obviously they pretty much beat us all year long. You don’t have to do a stupid thing like that to disrespect this game. I let him know I didn’t appreciate it. He was still yelling and talking crap and running away. I wanted him to stop and face me. I respect this game. And I didn’t appreciate the way he disrespected us. I didn’t care if he yelled, but when you start pointing into the dugout, that;s not professional right there.”

Q: Was this something that Pujols felt he had to do as the leader of the ballclub?

Pujols: ”If I see anybody on our ballclub doing stupid stuff like that, I’m going to pull them to the side, and I’m going to (get) into their face. You don’t do that on this level.”

Q: Does Pujols really believe that Villanueva ‘woke a sleeping giant?’

Pujols: “He did us a favor. We came back and we pulled it the through. And I’m glad he did that. So I congratulate him for doing that to us.”

Q: What did Pujols say to Villanueva?

Pujols: “I told him to shut up and go to the dugout, he doesn’t have to do that. That’s when he said something in Spanish that I don’t want to say to you guys. But that’s when I got fired up. I told him to stop and come and say that to my face, but he was running away. That’s allright. I’m going to see him later.”

Q: Did Villanueva curse Pujols?

Pujols: “Yeah, very much. But I didn’t care about the things he said to me. It was more that he disrespected my team by pointing into the dugout. He can curse me out and say whatever he wants. I don’t care. But when he disrespects my teammates I need to stand up for my teammates. I don’t appreciate that.”

Note from Bernie: I was wondering about Pujols’ tendency to stare at his home runs at times … which has drawn criticism from some media and fans. Isn’t that showing up the pitcher? Isn’t that disrespectful? Seems that Albert goes too far at times. But before anyone could ask that, specifically, Pujols addressed the difference — at least as he sees it:

Pujols:  ”I don’t care, I don’t care about (Villanueva) getting excited. It’s the same as hitting a ball out of the ballpark and showing off to the pitcher. But when you start pointing and doing a bunch of crap and doing it to the other dugout … I don’t care if he would have pointed to their dugout and gotten fired up. It’s a big series. It was a big out he got with the bases loaded. He could have done whatever he wanted by pointing to their dugout and getting fired up. But he pointed to the wrong way, to our dugout. I didn’t like that. I had to stand up for my teammates.”

Pujols’ gesture wasn’t overlooked by teammates.

Catcher Yadier Molina heard what Villanueva said to Pujols, and began to bark at the Brewers pitcher.

And Cardinals third baseman Troy Glaus said: “Albert is the leader of this team and he stood up for his teammates. It was nice to see.”

OK, a few comments from this here scribe on the episode:

* While Pujols’ actions were admirable — very much so — I think it’s a real stretch to believe the 8th inning rally was a direct result of what happened at the end of the 7th when Villanueva made a fool of himself. I think the Cardinals were pretty desperate at that point; they just had to win that game. While Glaus conceded that “a little (motivational) fire doesn’t hurt,” he politely contested the notion that Villanueva caused the Cardinals to raise their agression and their game.

“Lookit, we’re going to play hard no matter what,” Glaus said. “We’re not going to put out any more effort just because something like that happened. That’s not who we are or how we go about playing the game.”I know that goes against an attractive storyline, but I think Glaus is right …* No, the 8th inning comeback wasn’t ignited by Villanueva. It was ignited by Pujols, who had a great AB against tough RH Milwaukee reliever David Riske, drilling one to right-center for an opposite field double. Pujols’ leadership in confronting Villanueva wouldn’t have meant much unless Pujols, the great hitter, stood up to stroke that double to get something positive underway in the 8th. Ryan Ludwick - who absolutely should be the full-time cleanup hitter — followed with his own double to make it 3-2. Glaus singled in Luddy to tie it at 3-3. And  Glaus made a heads-up baserunning move, taking second base on CF Mike Cameron’s throw home. Then Molina chipped in with an unselfish and smart AB, pushing the ball to the right side for a 4-3 ground out that moved Glaus to third.  Next, manager Tony La Russa won the manager’s duel against Milwaukee’s Ned Yost. With LH hitting Skip Schumaker up, Yost brought in lefty reliever Brian Shouse. Skip doesn’t hit lefties well, so La Russa countered with someone who does: infielder Aaron Miles, a .311 hitter against LHP. And Miles was 2 for 4 against Shouse. Miles didn’t have a great AB, but he chopped a ground ball to shortstop J.J. Hardy, who hurried his throw home to nab Glaus. The throw short-hopped catcher Jason Kendall, and Glaus scored for a 4-3 STL lead. Bottom line: Miles got it done. And after a nifty SAC bunt by pinch-hitter Braden Looper, Felipe Lopez singled to in Miles to make it 5-3. The Cardinals played intelligent, opportunistic, sharply executed baseball in that home half of the 8th. La Russa used his personnel the right way. A pitcher, Looper, came off the bench to execute a SAC bunt. Glaus ran the bases perfectly. The thumpers (Pujols and Ludwick) got the ball flying. Miles put the ball in play. Lopez did what he had to do. Molina gave himself up to move Glaus over. I’m probably forgetting something; just about everyone who stepped on the field for the Cardinals in the 8th put in their piece.

Did the chucklehead Villanueva incite the Cardinals? Maybe.

But I’d like to think that Pujols got ‘em going, and the Cardinals kicked in and played an excellent inning of baseball.

* One more thing: I don’t understand the Brewers. I just don’t. Really, I admire that team and its talent. Doug Melvin is one of the best guys in the game and an excellent GM. There are so many good players on that roster. But why do the Brewers always have to pull stunts? Why do they have to go knucklehead on us so often? What’s up with yanking their shirts out of their pants on the field as soon as they win a game, which, despite what they claim, really is an insult to the other team? What’s up with some of the showboat HR trots? What’s up with a journeyman like Villanueva gesturing wildly and cursing in the direction of the STL dugout? I don’t understand why this talented team feels that it needs to act up like NBA bad boy Ron Artest, or something. I don’t understand why this Milwaukee team feels the need to be controversial. I don’t understand the arrogance, considering that the Brewers have won NOTHING since 1982. And I don’t understand how Yost continues to allow it to happen. The Brewers will probably make the playoffs. They are that good. But we must ask: can you fellas at least hold off on the showboating until you actually win something?

Oh, and one more thing before I go.

Two words: Chris Perez.

Thanks for reading, and sorry I broke my vow to write shorter blogs… but I guessed you might want to see all of Pujols’ comnents.

-B

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Such Hypocrisy!! Last time the Crew visited Busch I remember Pujols STRUTTING home from third, both hands raised above his head on Glaus’ RBI 2B in the FIRST INNING of the first game of the series. WOW. This guy is the 2nd biggest prima donna in all of baseball behind MANRAM. He totally glorifies every HR he hits. Wow! Such a hypocrite. Im glad it took CV to get you pumped up in the last week of August Al. I guess the Brewers are always ready to play and dont need antics to fire them up. You got one game back from us Cards fans. U needed to sweep this series. You aren’t making the playoffs. I bet it still tastes sour the way we ripped you for 7 in a row this season. Enjoy Looking up at us in the standings from here on out.

Also, Braun is going to be MVP and when you rip the game from the Cards’ hands in the 9th you can measure it up all you want. Villaneva is NOT a JOURNEYMAN. See Aaron Miles. Get over the untucking of the shirts thing. Who CARES?! The game is over. Get you sorry team back in the dugout. Here’s an idea: Dont want us to untuck our shirts?? Then try winning a game at home. Thats the fact of the matter. We have fun winning.

Whats classless is the way La Russa hits players he thinks disrespects the game. Braun is going to be measuring up HRs on your sorry butts for the next 8 years. Get used to it. He still isnt as classless as Pujols, never will be and Ry is only getting better. Get used to it STL.

You got one game. Enjoy us beating the Cubs in October. Have an ice cold Miller to wipe that taste outta your mouth. You just got owned STL. See ya

Im sure this wont get posted because you guys would hate to read a dissenting opinion for once. Good Luck with third place

— bennybrewer
9:24 am August 28th, 2008

Look, I’ll grant that baseball may have created its own idiom that completely misrepresents the longstanding meaning of “journeyman.” On the other hand, if he meant it like tradesman for centuries have meant it, then his claim makes some sense–someone who’s got the skills but isn’t a master yet. If he meant it as “washed up,” then, you’re right, it doesn’t make sense.

— arkansasrefugee
9:26 am August 28th, 2008

First off, I’m a baseball fan. Secondly, I’m a Brewers fan. What we saw last night on the field was exciting baseball. Yes, the Cards beat the Crew, but NO, the Cards didn’t get pumped up by Villa’s fist pump.

I like the Cards, I respect their dominance a few years ago and players on the team. But I see all these people on this blog (including Bernie) complaining about how arrogant the Brewers are.

ARE YOU SERIOUS? Is this your biggest concern? How do you guys act when the Cubs come to town? The Cubs are one of the biggest team of a-holes I’ve ever watched. Their fans? The single worst fans in ALL OF SPORTS. That’s not even an exaggeration. Anyone who has sat in the stands of a Cubs game - doesn’t matter where it is - knows how obnoxious and downright mean Cubs fans are. They have no respect for the game, the players, the city they are in and it’s fans.

Let’s agree that the Cards - Brewers is a fun rivalry and all band together to stick to the Cubs. I’m going to be rooting for the Cards in Sept. when they duel the Cubs. Let’s face it, the Cubs fans need to be humbled. Go Brewers and Go Cards!

— CubsSuck
9:35 am August 28th, 2008

The Brewers shirt untucking is totally uncalled for. They should celebrate a win like the Cardinals do.

Sincerely,
Josh Hancock

— 1smoothG
9:36 am August 28th, 2008

What is amazing here is that you Cardinal fans are some of the classiest people in baseball, but obviously your beat writer dances to a different tune. Let me educate you Cardinal fans on some things.

1) Brewers untuck their jerseys after each game in honor of Mike Cammeron’s father. Not a sign of disrespect but a sign of respect. If this is something that truly bothers people than you should be in Denver along with all the other liberals who are so sensitive on such ridiculous issues.

2) Carlos Villanueva was pointing to his catcher not your dugout.

3) Pujols along with Arod have the slowest HR trots in the game. Pujols admires everyone of his HITS not just his HR’s. Hey point to the sky after every single….Maybe pitchers should point to the sky after every strikeout. I’m sure they have some relative they could pay tribute to.

4) I guess Albert wasn’t respecting the game when he was thrown out by 4 feet in the AllStar game due to admiring his work, easily should have been a standup double. Thank you Albert probably cost the Brewers homefield in the WS.

5) Troy Glaus…..wow where do I start? Throwing helmets down, yelling at Phil Cussi….pretty much should have been thrown out of the game. Classy

6) Throwing at Braun in retaliation of coming inside on Pujols….

Cardinal fans I think are some of the greatest if not the best fans in the game (Twins fan’s are close) but to sit here and read this garbage of one sided crap is amazing. Yes the Brewers are young and brash……and good. But what you fail to realize is that most of these guys looked up to guys like Pujols and mimic his game and antics. Happy we won the series for the first time since 99 but it would have been nice if Yost would have used Torres in the 8th and 9th and walked out of there with a sweep.

See you in 09

— Brewcrewjon
9:45 am August 28th, 2008

This blog is a joke. While I think La Russa is probably the best game manager in baseball, many also think he is the most arrogant. Bernie did you know that journeyman means you have played for multiple teams. Carlos Villanueva has played for a total of one team so far. Maybe you should understand baseball terminology before you use it. Everyone knows that Pujols showboats, and complaining about teams un-tucking shirts after a game makes you look like sore losers. Of course I guess you guys have seen it more than just about any other team this year. Maybe you should find better things to complain about than shirts after the game ends. Its just something the Brewers do. If the Cardinals did it you would be fine with it. Bernie did you know that to be adequate at covering baseball you have to be a writer first and a fan second. You also have to remember that your Cardinals can spend more money that what the Brewers can. They can afford to keep their players. The Brewers have to do it with shrewd dealing and via the draft. Maybe you should think about these things before you start reminding all of us how many World Series you have won. I am sure the Yankees remind the Rays how many World Series they have won as well.

— diegop
10:02 am August 28th, 2008

Bernie -

As a Brewer fan, sorry it took so long to respond. Its hard to hear you over all of this winning were doing.

So Villanueva offended you? But your willing to give a pass to Pujos who shows up pitchers constantly. And wait….you feel that’s ok because Albert told you it wasn’t showing up the pitcher? Give me a break. Do you have the same “passionate” criticism for your rival to the north when Zambrano and Marmol act equally as excited as Villanueva on what seems like every strikeout they get?

We’ve watched Albert show up our pitchers long enough. Were tired of your alcoholic manager starting meaningless tiff’s by throwing at our batters. A few years back, the collective thought in Milwaukee was that we were happy to see the Cards win the WS because, like Milwaukee, its a great baseball town with logical baseball fans. Too bad the same can’t be said about their beat writer.

Buy Tony a shot on me and enjoy writing about the Billikens come October

— brewcrewfan
10:05 am August 28th, 2008

Great to see a new rivalry blossoming.

I noticed on Tuesday when the Brewers smacked the Cardinals, that it’s obvious how long it’s been since the Brew Crew has beat up on the Cardinals. All those year’s of frustration are coming out both on the field and in the stands.

— stlredman
10:10 am August 28th, 2008

As my name suggests I am a brewer fan who had to share a little light on some of your concerns. Obviously what CV did last night was stupid and the game has no place for it. However, lets not think that the Cards are immune to arrogance. Baseball players are professional athletes at the highest of levels so I would like to think that all you have to tell little kids is watch what “they do” and you will be alright. However that is not the case or we would have guys pointing to dugouts, or standing and watching home runs like guys like Pujols and Braun do regularly. Just remember it goes both ways, and if you havent noticed Tony Larussa smells of arrogance a mile away. Finally, as for the shirt untucking thing that was brought by Mike Cameron who is one of the most well respected veterans in the game. It symbolizes that the work day is over and its time to untuck your shirt. If that is an arrogant attitude than you are out of touch with reality. Just remember try not to be such a homer!

— BernieBrewer1998
10:12 am August 28th, 2008

Typical STL. I lived in your dump for two years and have never encountered a more arrogant fan base than the St. Louis Cardinals. Your dominance of the usually weak NL Central is over. Get used to it. And for every alleged “classless act” against your team, I can name 100 “classless acts” against other teams you guys have committed. If you really want this to be a good blog, then ask Villanueava for a follow up and put his account of events up there with Pujols’ account. That is journalism, right? Sorry for showing exuberance during a critical point in the game. Someone outta buzz a fastball at Albert’s chin for every freakin’ time he stands there and watches his HRs.

http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/archive/2008/08/28/st-louis-writer-blogs-on-the-brewers.aspx

— bjv1678
10:17 am August 28th, 2008

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