Herzog, Southworth Up for Hall’s Improved Vet Vote
TOWER GROVE — The National Baseball Hall of Fame’s ballot for its Veterans Committee was announced this afternoon, and the names on the ballot are only slightly more notable than the names of the voters who receive the ballot.
Cardinal managers Whitey Herzog and Billy Southworth are on the ballot.
Bob Gibson, for example, is on a select committee that gets to vote on that ballot.
The ballot hints at how the Hall is trying to inspire the Veterans Committee — which has declined to elect an inductee the last several seasons — to honor the deserving.
If you recall, during this year’s Hall of Fame induction weekend — or the Great Hummel Bash, as we call it — the Hall of Fame altered its approach to its veterans committee ballots. No longer would the ballots be voted on by a huge pool of voters. The voters would be split off into special committees to focus on specific areas of the ballot. There would be a committee of voters for Managers/Umpires and there would be a committee of voters for Executives … and so on.
The press release that came out today explains the new procedure:
At its July meeting, the Hall of Fame Board of Directors voted to restructure the Committee on Baseball Veterans and its procedures for electing long-retired players, managers, umpires and executives. …
The Baseball Hall of Fame Committee on Baseball Veterans now has four ballots. The Managers/Umpires ballot and the Executive ballot are considered every other year starting with the 2008 Induction year. Players whose careers spanned a period beginning in 1943 will be considered every other year starting with the 2009 Induction year. Players whose careers began before 1943 will be considered every five years, beginning with the 2009 Induction year.
All Hall of Fame members will vote on 1943-and-beyond players in late 2008 for the 2009 Induction year. A special 12-member committee, yet to be appointed, will vote on players whose careers began to prior to 1943, at the Winter Meetings in December 2008 for the 2009 Induction year. Ballots for both the pre-1943 and 1943-and-beyond elections will be crafted and released in Fall 2008.Our own Rick Hummel, a Hall of Famer, was a member of the committee that put together the ballot and he’s a voter on the Executive Committee. He and 10 other writers form the BBWAA Historical Overview committee which works to ensure deserving baseball men and women are not overlooked for Hall of Fame induction.
Our own , a Hall of Famer,was a member of the committee that put together the ballot and he’s a voter on the Executive Committee. He and 10 other writers form the BBWAA Historical Overview committee which works to ensure deserving baseball men and women are not overlooked for Hall of Fame induction.The 10 managers and umpires eligible for election into the Hall of Fame in 2008 are:
- Whitey Herzog, manager
- Davey Johnson, manager
- Billy Martin, manager
- Gene Mauch, manager
- Danny Murtaugh, manager
- Billy Southworth, manager
- Dick Williams, manager
- Doug Harvey, umpire
- Hank O’Day, umpire
- Cy Rigler, umpire
Any candidate who receives 75 percent of the vote will be inducted into the Hall of Fame during the July 2008 ceremonies. I imagine everyone who has read this far can make a compelling case for Herzog, and Southworth deserves the same passionate advocacy from Cardinals fans. I could explain why, but Mike Smith, our online sports editor, has made the case before and I’m going to invite him to make the case again.
(Hopefully he’ll write that up below.)
The 16-person committee that will vote on the award will be: Hall of Famers Hank Aaron, Jim Bunning, Bob Gibson, Fergie Jenkins, Al Kaline, Tom Lasorda, Phil Niekro, Tony Perez, Earl Weaver and Billy Williams; former executive Jim Frey; executives Roland Hemond (Diamondbacks) and Bob Watson (Major League Baseball); and writers Jack O’Connell (MLB.com), Tim Kurkjian (ESPN) and Tom Verducci (Sports Illustrated).
The list of executives that are on the 10-person ballot for induction includes Marvin Miller, who is long overdue for induction (just my opinion). He helped change the game, made the players union into the power that it is and was there with Curt Flood at the frontline of the free agency staredown. The other nine (brace yourself Brooklyn): Buzzie Bavasi, Barney Dreyfuss, John Fetzer, Bob Howsam, Ewing Kauffmann, Bowie Kuhn, John McHale, Walter O’Malley and Gabe Paul.
The 12-person committee chosen to select inductees from the executive list include Cardinals chairman Bill DeWitt Jr. and Mr. Hummel.
The committees will meet in during the Winter Meetings on Dec. 2 to discuss the ballot and vote.
Results will be announced Dec. 3.
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Derrick Goold told everyone he was going to Mizzou for capital-J journalism, but really after growing up in the Time Zone Baseball Forgot he was drawn to MU's primo location between two major-league cities. Goold joined the Post-Dispatch in 2001 after working for The Times-Picayune and Rocky Mountain News, covering sports from LSU to NHL and every level of baseball inbetween.
Excellent ballots, both of them, and I sure hope Whitey finally gets in. However, there’s a lot of really good competition there.
I wonder how many of today’s fans know who Hank O’Day was? For those who don’t know, try googling “Merkle Incident”.
And yes, Marvin Miller is way overdue.
Bob Howsam??!??