How far Pujols’ San Diego shot really went
TOWER GROVE — Like anybody else who saw Albert Pujols’ bolt to the fourth story of San Diego’s Western Metal Supply Co. building, Greg Rybarczyk felt it had to be a mammoth blast, one with the distance to match the reaction of the players.
But Rybarczyk knew better.
“When I saw that ball hit, I thoguht it was a huge homer, just like everyone else — something about the angle off the bat, the speed of the swing, it just looked like a real bomb,” Rybarczyk said. “But when I went to look at, surprisingly it turned out to be more of a regular fly ball than a screaming liner.”
Rybarczyk runs Hit Tracker Online, a Web site dedicated to calculating “how far it really went … “ Rybarczyk uses his own maps of the ballparks, exit speeds and gobs of other data to track each home run hit in the majors and determine the true distance — not the ballpark estimated distance — of the home run.
At many ballparks around baseball, the act of estimating distances for home runs has been more and more exact. When the new Busch Stadium opened, a couple members of the Cardinals staff went out with a yard stick to take measurements they used to create a detailed distance map for home runs hit at the ballpark. Most ballparks have three numbers for each section of the ballpark — one for each kind of home run: “screaming liner”, standard homer and high rainbow.
San Diego announced that Pujols’ first home run Monday traveled 405 feet.
It was described repeatedly, including by me, as a conservative estimate.
Those descriptions are incorrect. Rybarczyk did his calculations and found out …
The homer traveled 405 feet.
“It is a visually deceiving homer because it impacted so high up in the air - those tend to look longer for that reason,” Rybarczyk wrote me in an email explaining the measurement. “But the Western Metal Supply building is actually very close to home plate: the corner (which is also the foul “pole”) is marked at 334 feet, and the patios are actually as close as 328 feet, hanging over the field in fact. Pujols’ homer impacted about 58 feet above field level, 356 feet from home plate, after 4.28 seconds in the air. Hit Tracker projects it to 405 feet, and figures it came off the bat at just under 109 mph.”
Rybarczyk offers the following chart on his Web site:
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The time it took Pujols’ homer to leave the ball is an important part of the calculation, and Rybarczyk mentions that 4.28 seconds to land “is a fairly long time.” Milwaukee’s Ryan Braun hit a blast last week at Fenway Park that took 2.78 seconds to land. He also said the new ballparks and their Crawford Boxes and Big Mac Lands and, yes, Wester Metal Supply Cos. cause a visual trick on the distance of home runs.
The longest homer hit at Petco Park was by Andruw Jones, and it went 463 feet, but because it traveled to left-center field without the fanfare, without the ballpark prop, it “did not garner nearly the attention that Pujols’ homer did,” Rybarczyk wrote.
“I suspect we all expect Pujols’ homers to be longer, also, having seen quite a few impressive shots,” he wrote in an email. ”Also, many of the newer parks have tall objects close to home plate (the WMS building in SD, the upper deck in RF at Citizens Bank Park, actually even Big Mac Land is very close to home plate laterally), so it tricks our eyes when a ball flies high and into or over one of those objects. So, don’t feel bad, I think we all are susceptible to that optical illusion, which is why it’s good to have something like Hit Tracker to objectively figure the distances out …”
There is a scatter plot of all of Pujols’ home runs this season available at his own page on Hit Tracker. And that bolt in San Diego of Justin Germano actually lowered his “true distance” average for home runs this season. The scatter plot allows you to go back a few years — which, when it comes to Pujols’ homers, obviously means going back to October 2005.
For the record, Pujols homer off Brad Lidge — you know the one — left the bat at 119.1 mph, had an apex of 113 feet and traveled a “true distance” of … 455 feet.
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Derrick Goold said he was going to Mizzou for capital-J journalism, but after growing up in the Time Zone Baseball Forgot he was really drawn to MU sitting between two major-league cities. Goold joined the Post-Dispatch in 2001 after working for The Times-Picayune and Rocky Mountain News, covering sports from LSU to NHL and every level of baseball in between.
Critics around the country say that the Cardinals aren’t for real, because they’ve run up their record against weak teams. True, so far they’ve had 37 games against losing teams and 13 against winning teams, including Friday night’s game against the Dodgers. But they’ve played better against winning teams than losing teams, in large part because the Cardinals have stumbled against losing teams in May.
By my count, the team in April was 4-2 against teams with winning records (as of now, May 24) and 14-9 against losing teams. In may they are 5-2 against winning teams and 6-8 against losing teams. Overall, they’re 9-4 against winning teams and 20-17 against losing teams? What does that mean? Mostly, it means we’re only 50 games into the season.
wonder what some of the shots over old tiger stadium measured? who averaged the longest home runs?
Is anybody else sick of seeing Chris Duncan wearing a glove? It’s time to move him to his natural position: DH. The funny thing is that Barton gets replaced in the late innings by Schumaker. But on Sunday, Skip was replaced by Duncan, for the sake of a double switch.
I have several comments on this.
1. I have looked at several replays on this and see no way that ball peaked 45 feet higher than it hit. That ball at best peaked 30 ft higher and it was probably closer to 20. I saw several replays, and while I do not agree it was still going up, as the announcers said, I know it had not fallen that much (45ft) from it’s peak.
2. The spin actually will work to make the ball travel further. Anyone that has witnessed a curveball should know that a ball curves in the direction the front of the ball is moving. Any fly ball has backspin so the spin helps it carry. Big Mac put so much spin on his moon shots that guys routinely misjudged how far the ball would travel. It didn’t follow the expected slope downward.
3. If that ball was really going 109 MPH when it was hit it traveled approximately 135 feet in the X direction after 1 second. That’s assuming it kept most of it’s initial velocity. That means in the last 3.28 it only traveled 269 feet. That makes of average of only 82 ft of X per second. I seriously doubt it put on the brakes that fast.
Everyone keeps talking about spin making it go further and how it couldn’t have put on the brakes that fast.
Well think of Golf. Whenever you hit the ball WAAAY in the air it doesn’t go as far as a ball that goes considerably lower, but still well hit. The ball that goes well into the air………has more spin. A pop up directly above the catcher has more spin. It’s called a ballooning effect. Thus the spin helps it get airborne, but after a while the spin goes away somewhere around the apex and the BRAKES kick in.
Just look at a chart of different driver’s and the distance each one typically goes…….both carry and roll. Obviously we only are concerned with the carry here, but you will notice that after the apex of a drive…….the BRAKES kick in.
I don’t know ANY physics, but common sense alone sometimes works just fine. Don’t over analyze it.
But over-analyzing and assuming is what we do, right? Not always in that order.
dg
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surely anyone who claims to be an engineer, as i am, realizes that as the ball slows down, it’s trajectory is much steeper coming down than when leaving the bat, hence the apex is nearer the end of the trajectory. as a testament to how much the ball slows, would you dare catch a home run ball with your bare hands 90 ft away as you easily can as it lazily lands in the bleachers. hope the acclaimed engineer isn’t dealing w/ anything important.