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05.29.2008 5:55 pm

Mulder seeks solution, faces uncertainty

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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DOWNTOWN — After nearly two years of constant rehab and two shoulder surgeries, Cardinals pitcher Mark Mulder still cannot get his arm in the position he needs to be effective as a pitcher, the lefthander said Thursday afternoon.

He and team doctors are exploring possible solutions.

He faces an uncertain future.

“When your arm doesn’t rotate up — mine rotates down,” Mulder said. ”It doesn’t rotate up the way it should be. There is no way to get on top of the ball and get any downward angle on the ball. Could I go out and pitch? Yeah. I don’t have the command because (of) when your release point is different. Could I go out and throw strikes? Yeah. But they aren’t going to be very good pitches.

“We’re trying to figure out why my arm doesn’t want to rotate up like that.”

Mulder discussed the results of a recent MRI on Wednesday with team doctor George Paletta. The MRI, Mulder said, did not show any additional injury or disrepair in the twice rebuilt joint. That same visit, Mulder received his second Cortisone shot in a week. This one was to a different area of the shoulder, as the first one — given earlier this week — did not have the desired effect.

Mulder described it as exploring all of the options to eliminate the possible causes.

The lefthander, who had a rehab assignment halted a few days before it was to end, told reporters that when others rotate their shoulders as if to throw it feels “oiled.” His does not. “It doesn’t glide,” he said. His joint cranks into position and then collapses when tries to get it extended to then wheel and fire the ball. That limits the action on his pitches, as well as limits the kind the of pitches he can throw.

Mulder used his curveball as an example.

When able to get full extension on his arm swing, he is able to stay on top of the ball and snap off curveballs to different sides of the plate — back door, curves spiked in the dirt. Physically unable to get his arm into that position, he may be able to throw his curve for a strike but only to the general strike zone. It’s a flat, rolling curve that he’s lucky to locate and do very little with.

Mulder will give the shot at least two days to take root. He is scheduled to throw sometime this weekend to see if the second shot had the desired effect to calm the joint and improve the Mulder’s delivery swing. If not … Mulder said a third surgery is distasteful. He did not dismiss the notion that he may have to embrace a new way or new approach to pitching — joking in retort that he did throw righthanded until he was 6.

There was a whiff of gallow’s humor to his jest.

“You work your (tail) off to try and do something, everything you can do, and when you don’t get rewarded for that it’s tough,” Mulder said. 

Said manager Tony La Russa: ”I am mostly concerned about Mark. He is a guy who is a great pitcher and he’s dealing with this (crud) for a couple years. Pretty tough to take. This is his career.”

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i think there have been pitchers with shoulder trouble that have converted to submariners. if he could do that or possibly learn a knuckleball, he might have a chance. i have had rotator cuff surgery in my early thirties and never could throw a ball well overhand after that. sometimes the joint just grows back different. i feel sorry that such a promising career may be at an end. but if it is, it’s not like he can’t have a pretty nice life!

on a different subject i want to agree with bernie. chris duncan does not deserve to be humiliated. tony may think he is “sticking by” his guys, but just like izzy, tlr waits too long to sit them down. i often think he does the same in not removing pitchers until about an inning late. and yes, i have been watching him do nothing but win for years, but i don’t find myself disagreeing nearly as often with bobby cox, who also has won several games and manages in a more orthodox manner.

thanks to the p.d. sports staff, the best in baseball.

— roger from lake tahoe
6:19 pm May 29th, 2008

It sure sounds like Mulder is thinking retirement. I’m sorry to say this but it may be the best thing for him and the Cardinals. The guy has made a lot of money, has had a career most could only dream of, and has won a World Series. Retirement would allow him to move on with his life. It would also allow the Cardinals to move on.

Derrick, that was some amazing reporting. I second Roger from Lake Tahoe…we are very lucky to have the best baseball coverage of any newspaper in the U.S. Thanks guys for all of the hard work!

— Nick
6:37 pm May 29th, 2008

It is time for the Cards to cut their losses. Chalk this up to a bad trade and move on.

— jds83210
7:09 pm May 29th, 2008

Something is terribly wrong with Mulder, and apparently has been for a while.

But until very recently, the fans that buy the tickets were told Mulder was progressing. What was Mulder being told? And what did he tell his coaches about his condition?

Someone has been misled. Who, by whom, and for what reason, are things we would all like to know.

— 7dez7
10:27 pm May 29th, 2008

Mulder’s done, just like so many other promising or proven pitchers in Cardinals history whose shoulders have given out. Chalk this one up as one of the all-time bad trades in Redbirds history. Think there’s a team in baseball that would trade Haren for Mulder straight up? Heck, is there a team in baseball that would trade Calero and Barton for Mulder?

— MC Boyer
10:50 pm May 29th, 2008

Paletta’s no longer allowed to talk to the media. But maybe they would let him take questions the way Mo and Luhnow have in PostCards. Dr. Gene can sit at his computer with a team PR guy, take fans questions via email from DG and craft whatever answers they like. Perhaps they would at least inadvertently let out some info. This Mulder thing has further deepened the widespread skepticism about the team’s medical arrangements.

DG: Clearly there’s a serious problem with Mulder. But are you telling us (between the lines) that he’s done?

On another matter, I have always thought the charges of favoritism toward Chris Duncan to be not valid, or at least overblown. Until I read TLR’s comments after Thursday night’s game. He went so overboard — even defending Duncan’s fielding on a day when he was in the spotlight for pulling a single for 2 RBIs — that it became painfully obvious that, methinks, he dost protest too much.

— Fuhrig
10:53 am May 30th, 2008

Q with Dr. P? Probably not. Mulder was clearly frustrated and trying to not ask himself the questions we were asking him — what does this mean? can you pitch another way? can you be successful with where you are? i asked him if his line of questions forced to a place with few solutions other than choosing to be the pitcher he is today or not being a pitcher anymore … He said he’s just trying not to think that far down the road, but he has no interest if surgery is ever brought up as a solution. The telling comment came from La Russa and, elsewhere, from Duncan. Any time the word “career” is injected into a quote, that should catch eyes.

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— Derrick Goold
1:25 pm May 30th, 2008

It had been sounding like Mulder was progressing slowly , but surely. I agree with an earlier comment.As a fan we have to this point understood that Mulder was progressing.

— emc2013
2:59 pm May 30th, 2008

Dunc got sent down to Memphis, which will I think end up being a good thing for his career. Let him play everyday down there and find “it” again…

I don’t think Mulder’s rehab has been some big conspiracy that was meant to lie to the fans. It has just another chapter in Mulder’s history here…a setback. Things seem to go well with the guy and suddenly another problem surfaces. It’s like a rerun on Nick at Nite, over and over and over. It will be interesting to see how long the Cards work with him before cutting their losses. I hope I am wrong, but I think he will never pitch effectively in the Bigs again…

— Tim
3:49 pm May 30th, 2008

Here’s a sad thing about Mulder. He was a brilliant pitcher by his mid 20s. By 28 he had the shoulder problem that caused his shoulder to collapse in May 2006. Now, in May 2008, he’s facing what could be the end of his career at age 30. Matt Morris is only, what, 34? It’s a testament to what the stress of pitching does to the human arm. And, yet, other guys pitch far into their 40s: Randy Johnson, Clemens (OK, juiced), Moyer (has never stress his arm a day in his life).

Say, DG, what and when was the rumored hip injury in Oakland that sent Mulder into a downward spiral and caused him to hurt his shoulder later?

— Fuhrig
3:53 pm May 31st, 2008

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