SSDD from Mulder & the Cardinals.

He’ll never be back–Unless it’s to be a coach, and Haren will continue to flourish…

Would this allow him to have a new 30-day rehab assignment or would it start from where he left off?

Not knocking you, DG, but this is one of the _least_ surprising stories I’ve seen in a while. Getting smoked twice in AAA meant something was obviously wrong.

I hope Mulder can come back, but I ain’t gonna be holdin’ my breath…

This does not come as a suprise at all. Anyone want to bet that after the 7-10 days rest, he says he’s good to go, and then goes out and sticks it up, only to find out after that it wasn’t a “mild” strain at all, but something much worse. And around and ’round we go. I wish Mulder the best, I really hope he gets better soon, but how many times do we have to go through this song and dance?

Sorry, but I think the guy is toast. Too bad he wasn’t able to show is Oakland form while suiting up for the Cards.

Creative. What injury will they make up next.

Boy, what a great trade by Jocketty. Sure am glad we gave up Dan Haren and Daric Barton to get a pitcher who would win us 15 games three years ago.

I am not surprised by this latest revelation, and it shouldn’t come as a shock to see Hudson, Mulder, and Zito all struggling now that they are out of Oakland, all of them were worn down before they were 30.

The good thing is we have won 22 games, our pitching staff is doing well, and there is no need to rush back Mulder, Carpenter, Clement, or Juan Gonzalez…lol.

Fred

cut him loose, he is done!!!!!!

Wouldn’t it be a more fair world if people spent as much time bragging about the Wainwright-Drew trade as they do dragging around the Mulder-Haren trade?

Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose…and you know the rest.

I sure hope they don’t try to rush Carpenter back too. Let him pitch a couple games in September . . . no more.

This redesign is terrible. How many fonts can we cram onto one page.

Hmmm….his agent says “it’s not a setback whatsoever.” This is the same guy that said Mulder would be pitching in June of 2007!!! He’s really giving agents a much worse name than they already have.

On another note, saying it was a bad trade is a joke. Mulder was an absolute stud in Oakland. I live in NoCal and saw him for 5 years before the trade. I honestly thought he be a perennial 20-game winner in StL. Yes, we all loved Haren, especially after the 2004 postseason, but you had to give to get. Barton would have had no position in StL

Sure, Mulder won a lot of games in Oakland, but what has he done since then? Let’s see, cost the Cardinals money, a shoulder operation, a comeback, another shoulder operation, time spent finding his mechanics and arm slot, and then low and behold more problems with his shoulder.

At the time, I loved the trade, Haren was not yet proven as a bona-fide front-line starter, and Mulder was awesome in Oakland…but…oh well…guess we learned the hard way.

Speaking of Wainwright/Drew trade, how we ever convinced the Braves to give up Wainwright for the oft hurt, moody, and underwhelming Drew was a smart move by Jocketty…

Oldtimer yes you can talk about the Drew for Wrainwright trade that was a different situations. We were trading a unreliable OF’r for young arm which turned out to be a great trade. And ATL needed an OF’r I give the Cards credit. But trading a great young arm for a guy who had injury problems in Oakland was not a wise move. Then to go and resign the guy for a couple of millions when he was hurt hoping he would come back was a mistake.

I think the new site has some bugs to be ironed out… Possible more use of borders… No just 20 different font paragraph thrown on a page… But they will get it, I am sure…

Mulder is done… Stop reporting on him, until there is something worth reporting… How are other players doing at AAA?

Eh, re-straining a shoulder during rehab, that IS a setback - clearly Mr Clifton went to Donald Rumsfeld school of sound bite spin techniques.

I have noticed that he delivers the ball different. This is probably not uncommon after all the body goes through and all the down time. I am not doubting what the doctors are having him do but it seems that it does make recovery more complicated. Two shoulder surgeries are pretty complicated anyway.

Can the Post-Dispatch re-post the Bernie column from the off-season or last year, when he declared that he would no longer trust anything the club says about medical issues? I can’t remember if it was went Carpenter had the Tommy John surgery, or in spring training when Clement was suddenly off the timetable with that weakness issue.

Here’s my suggestion for the new online poll question, instead of asking me who will win the Rockies-Cardinals series.

Where is Matt Clement rehabbing his shoulder “weakness”?
1) A high-altitude cave in Pakistan with Osama bin Laden.
2) An “undisclosed location” with Vice President Dick Cheney.
3) The end zone of Giants Stadium in The Meadowlands, New Jersey.

Fred

You might want to look up Hudson’s number over the last 3 1/2 years before you say he is struggling. Outside of a medicore 2006, he has been pretty good. The Braves did not give up a whole lot for him. The Braves won that trade easily.

I hope the Cardinals have learned never to make trades with Billy Bean again. Mulder was damaged goods when the Cardinals traded for him.

He is done. What a bad deal this turned out to be. Haren is the All Star and Mulder is struggling at Triple AAA.

Derrick,

Any idea where I can find last night’s box score on this new contraption? The new layout takes a little getting used to, but so far so good.

It seems that not only Mulder, but big league pitchers in general are NOT exactly as durable or as tough as pitchers in the past…..You’d think with all of the improvements in rehab, training and nutrition these players wouldn’t be as fragile as they seem.

Mulder is done… It was a bad signing and Trade. I wish we still had Haren.

I wish nothing but the best for Mulder. He’s a class dude who I think would love nothing more than to re-pay the Cards and fans for their patience. I just think it’s near the time when the team says enoughs enough, we need to move in another direction. Tough luck for him and the Cards

The Mulder situation is really a shame. I think a lot of people were hoping he could come back. It’s starting to look like he won’t ever be a big time pitcher again.

It’s obvious he’s not ready for sure but wasn’t a medical diagnosis required for roster considerations?

Man, it sure seems like the last people you would want to work on you is the Cardinals team Dr.’s. I’d always go someplace out to get work done, these guys seem to be butchers.

Mulder is a soft toss lefty that is unfortunately washed out, I believe Oakland knew they were getting rid of a problem when they traded him, like the previous post said sometimes you win sometimes you loose in these trades. I think Jocketty did the best he could for what he had, and Thank the good Lord above we didn’t get Barry Zito!!!!!!!!

This is a lousy excuse but genius by the Cardinals. Everybody knows the Cardinals made up this “mild strain” only to give the Cards more time to see what they want to do with Mulder. His 30 day DL stint was about to expire and they were foing to be forced to make a decision regarding activitating him. Coming with a “mild strain” is the perfect way to deter this process and not mess up the chemistry inside the clubhouse. Go Cards! Izzy sux

Just finished reading all of the comments regarding Mulder. The collective IQ of the people posting on this blog can’t be more than 25.

Is some one tracking these diagnoses? I think we started with “mild shoulder fatigue” back in ‘05. In fact, I think they were peddling that one before Mulder ever put on a uniform, explaining his precipitous decline with Oakland in the second half of ‘04. And I seem to recall back then that Clifton was the guy forking out the zoo-doo. Obviously what we need here is a new zoo-doo spreader. Maybe Mulder ought to hire Scott Boros. The Old Griz.