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06.03.2008 2:05 pm

Counting 60s: The Cards on a Scout’s scale

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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TOWER GROVE — The First-Year Player Draft is rapidly approaching — as Bryan Burwell opined on this morning – and it was the draft that sprang to mind when I read a recent entry at KC columnist Joe Posnanski’s baseball-enriched blog.  He called it “The Dayton Game”.

Come play along.

As the Cardinals and 29 other MLB clubs conclude their preparation for the draft, which starts Thursday, most teams are rifling through scouting reports that include plenty of the 20-80 language so common to scouts. As they grade players around the country for the annual draft, scouts have traditionally used a scale that rates a player from 20 to 80 by 10s. A superb player — say, All-Star potential or better — gets a 60 or more. An average major-league player gets a 50. And so on.

Think Frank Thomas’ defense (20) all the way to Ozzie Smith’s (80).

Or, Cesar Izturis’ power (20) to Ryan Ludwick’s (50) to Albert Pujols’ (70+).

This blog (50). Posnanski’s (70).

And so on.

Since, I’m stealing shamelessly from Posnanski, check out his descriptions of the 20-80 scale for much more detail (and more laughs than I can provide). “The Dayton Game”, so named for KC general manager Dayton Moore, is counting up the number of 60s on any given team. It takes a tool used by scout’s to rank and evaluate amateur players for the draft and applies to the majors.

What a better way to begin a week of draft-related entries here at Bird Land by Counting the 60s with the Cardinals.

  1. Pujols’ power … 70.
  2. Pujols’ hitting … 80?
  3. Yadier Molina’s arm … 70.
  4. Rick Ankiel’s arm … 70.
  5. Cesar Izturis’ glove … 60.
  6. Brian Barton’s speed … 60.
  7. Chris Perez’s fastball … 60 (65?)
  8. Adam Wainwright’s curveball … 60 (70?)

Got some ideas? Some arguments? Anybody want to try the 2004 Cardinals? The ‘82 Birds? Heck, The Gashouse Gang?

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Some draft nuggets: SS Casey Kelly, a Sarasota prep player, visited the Cardinals’ campus in Jupiter, Fla., for a workout. (He also worked out for the Marlins.) Kelly is the 19th-rank player in Baseball America’s rankings for the draft. He’s the son of former ballplayer Pat Kelly. Committed to play quarterback at Tennessee. … RHP Bobby Lanigan, of Adelphi, had a workout for the Cardinals in Newark. … OF/RHP Aaron Hicks, a prep player for Long Beach, had a strong workout with the Cardinals, as mentioned by Keith Law and others. He is the No. 13-ranked player in BA. Switch-hitter is also expected to be available at pick 13. … 1B Brett Newsome, of Ambrose, traveled to Memphis for an invitation-only workout with the Cardinals. … And, Texas prep outfielder J. P. Ramirez, No. 155 in the BA rankings, attended the Cardinals’ workout in Houston. He’s a Tulane signee.

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Sure, a 60 or a 70 for Waino’s curveball.

But, is there something below 20 for the meatball he threw to Jason Michaels?

— Mike Smith
2:13 pm June 3rd, 2008

How about Jason Isringhausen’s confidence - 10?

— mrillini13
2:20 pm June 3rd, 2008

Kyle McClellan’s playoff beard - 75.

— mrillini13
2:24 pm June 3rd, 2008

The 75 beard is gone. McClellan went with the cue-ball cut and goatee before Monday’s game. … Sorry, Mike 20 is as low as the scale goes.

— Derrick Goold
2:28 pm June 3rd, 2008

How about a 20 for Gordo’s spelling in Tipsheet.

Ok, I’ll keep the gloves above the belt. Interesting blog today, I enjoyed it!

— r.c.
3:00 pm June 3rd, 2008

thanks for the update on the workouts DG.

— fewgoodcards
3:38 pm June 3rd, 2008

Derrick….are you hearing anything about Christian Friedrich the LHP from EKU or Brett Lawrie the 3B/C HS’er from Canada?

Both are projected to go right around when the Cards select.

I am surprised to hear a guy like Aaron Hicks who goes against the Cards past history of picks. When they do go HS bats..its usually a guy with polish and Hicks is more upside/projection.

Thanks…we appreciate the info!

— picklefork
3:46 pm June 3rd, 2008

Chris Duncan’s chew technique - 70. Goatee - 30.

— whatthetlr?
3:46 pm June 3rd, 2008

Oh, come on DG! You are too hard on yourself! Amongst blogs, you’re doing way better than a 50.

— erik
3:49 pm June 3rd, 2008

DG, you’ve got the best Cardinals blog out there. More like a 65 for the work of one of baseballs best blogs.

CPR’s fastball is certainly a 65 if maybe a a 70. Wainers curve is a 70.disagree? Just ask Carlos Beltran about Wainers curve. Ank’s arm a 75 and even though Yadi numbers don’t look great this season he’s a 75.

Can’t wait for the draft. What is the scouting report on Christian Friedrich? Seems like if he’s availble it would be nice to add a south paw to the organization.Thanks for a great blog ,DG!

— emc2013
4:16 pm June 3rd, 2008

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