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07.15.2008 12:35 pm

The All-Star Factor: Check the Standings

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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TOWER GROVE — The headline above the masthead — a skybox, was we call them — on the front page of yesterday’s Chicago Sun-Times  shouted, “All is Forgiven”, and next to it was a photo of Chicago Cubs reliever Carlos Marmol, the sudden All-Star.

Marmol was the last addition to the National League All-Star team for tonight’s All-Star Game — the celebrated send-off of venerable Yankee Stadium — and just by joining the team he helped this year’s Cubs tie a record. Marmol is the eighth Cub selected to the team, tying a record set by the 1943 Cardinals and equaled since by the 1956 Cincinnati Reds and the 1960 Pittsburgh Pirates. Marmol got the spot once held by teammate Kerry Wood, who won’t pitch because of a blister, and because he had the highest total of peers votes for any player not yet selected.

“It’s amazing walking in here today and seeing seven of my teammates already here and talking,” Wood told MLB.com in this article about the Cub invasion. “It’s special. It’s something different. There’s guys who don’t have any teammates here, and I’m sitting here with seven of my buddies.”

Scott Boras told colleague Rick Hummel how unamused he was that his client Kyle Lohse didn’t get the call to the Bronx, and several of Lohse’s teammates shared that opinion.

Critics will point to statistics: Marmol is 2-3 with a 4.13 as the Cubs’ setup man.

But he’s hardly alone. Across the diamond tonight for the American League team is another player who has been hardly an All-Star since June 1, Boston catcher Jason Varitek. The two stats since July 1:

Marmol … 9.37 ERA

Varitek … .142 Batting Average

Still, peer votes and past performance have merit. Varitek is one of seven Red Sox in tonight’s game, a standard number as a nod to the previous year’s World Series champion. (Only once since the tied All-Star Game has the previous year’s championship club had fewer than three representatives as the following All-Star festitivities; that was last year when Albert Pujols went as the world champs lone All-Star … and, old news here, didn’t play.) And other teams have had hordes of All-Stars before. The White Sox had seven in 2006, the year after their title; the New York Mets had six that same year. Back in 2003, Atlanta had seven All-Stars, and in 2004 the New York Yankees took a run at the record — held at nine by the ‘58 Yankees — with eight All-Stars.

When starter Rich Harden made his debut over the weekend, he became the 37th player to appear in a game for the Cubs. Slightly more than 1/5 of the players used — and about a third of the active roster — were selected as All-Stars, and the Cubs will make up a about a fourth of the NL All-Star roster.

Only Carlos Zambrano was a manager’s pick. The rest were fan or peer votes.

Hard to argue with those numbers — or the standings, with the Cubs on top.

But what does a lot of All-Stars mean. As mentioned, it has been a reward for championships past, but is it a harbinger of championships future? Not really. Since the tie in Milwaukee, the team with the most All-Stars that summer won the World Series just once — last year when Boston had six All-Stars and the title.

Of the 40 playoff teams in the past five years, 26 have had at least three All-Stars.

Only five of the 40 playoff teams had had just one All-Star:

  • Minnesota ‘03 (LHP Eddie Guardado)
  • Atlanta ‘04 (C Johnny Estrada)
  • Minnesota ‘04 (RHP Joe Nathan)
  • San Diego ’05 (RHP Jake Peavy)
  • Oakland ‘06 (LHP Barry Zito)

The record-holders don’t offer much else. The 1958 Yankees, who had those nine All-Stars at Memorial Stadium against Stan Musial & Co., went on that season to win the World Series. It was the last of the six World Series the Yankees won in the 1950s. From the National League, the three teams that now share the record with the Cubs for eight All-Stars had these October fates:

1943 Cardinals lost to the Yankees in the World Series.

1956 Cincinnati Reds won 91 games, but finished third in NL.

1960 Pittsburgh Pirates won World Series on a homer you might have heard about by Bill Mazeroski.

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Doing the research for the above entry reminded me of a tiny, but lifelong, perk of being named an All-Star. Sometime soon, Ryan Ludwick’s page at Baseball-Reference.com, all 311 games of it there right now, will get a new addition: A permanent, red-white-and-blue banner above his stats that reads, “All-Star.” It will be just like Marmol’s.

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12 comments

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While I wouldn’t want the players to miss out on the unique experience of being an all-star, from the selfish standpoint of being a ticket holding fan I prefer the Cardinals to be home relaxing and healing.

I am very happy that none appeared in the home run hitting competition.

My only all star votes cast were a few on-line votes for Yadi because Tony lobbied on his behalf.

My two sons voted a few fist fulls for the home team, but as I looked over their shoulders I don’t believe their ballots had any better chance of counting than the average senior citizen of Broward County.

— Joepa
3:19 pm July 15th, 2008

There are teams in baseball that are competitive because they know baseball. Oakland,Minnesota, are two teams. The third and most successful are the St. Louis Cardinals. Then there are teams that are so unsuccessful that they denigrate themselves and baseball by trying to buy a championship. The lowest and the most successful are the Yankees and the Red Sox. The newest member of this club are the Cubs. Winning for organizations like the Cubs .Yankees , and Red Sox is like going to Time Square looking to buy a hooker, succeeding and then calling the experience true love. How else are the Cubs going to win? Do they have the baseball smarts to get a Lohse et.el. Oh I forget the trade that sent Broglio to the cubs for Brock.

On another note. What about the Ruth curse on the Red Sox. What baseball historians know is there was no curse. The Boston Red Sox suffered from bad karma as in being the most racist sports organization in American history.

Who was the last baseball team to draft an African American player? Second to the last were the Yankees. The last…..THE BOSTON RED SOX A DECADE AFTER JACKIE ROBINSON WAS DRAFTED BY THE BROOKLYN DODGERS. How does a team compete when they do not allow an African American player on their team for so long?

— bruce baker
5:33 pm July 15th, 2008

2 points in response to Bruce Baker…

The difference in salary between the 2008 Cubs and Cardinals is a little less than 18 million-118 to 100. (Source, ESPN)Some of that is Edmonds’ salary of which the majority is being paid by the Padres and Cardinals. If you think that difference would be considered “buying” a championship, then so be it. However, saying that the 7th highest payroll is bankrolling a championship and the 11th highest is not is proof of bias, not of evidence.
Second, with regards to Kevin Lohse. The cubs picked up Edmonds for 390,000 dollars, a pretty smart move. They picked up Reed Johnson for 1.3 mil, and Lilly for 8 mil. And 6 years ago they got Ramirez for essential nothing. He has turned out to be the best offense 3b in the NL since signing with the Cubs. They have all paid off big dividends for their team. I agree that Lohse is a fantastic signing, but the Cubs have some moves of their own.
Of course, that’s the bias of a cubs fan.

— shah
5:59 pm July 15th, 2008

I will again refrain from watching the all-star game this year. Adding Marmol instead of Lohse is the same as trying to sell me a yacht on the moon. And the players actually voted on this guy instead of Lohse? And Fukudome over Ankiel? Blah, compare the numbers.

And I’d much rather see a tie game, than to give home-field advantage to the winner. What’s to stop a manager from burning up a pitcher for a “W”? Ridiculous concept.

— Cardsballhawk
6:33 pm July 15th, 2008

In response to shah -

As to the Cubs “buying” a championship, it’s not just the money they have in contracts this year. It’s the amount of money they have in contracts in future years that is key. Their payroll is going to seriously escalate over the next several years, even if they don’t add any new players (which is unlikely). For example, the Cubs will be paying Alfonso Soriano in excess of 20 million per at AGE 38!

He’s not even worth that now, considering he can’t stay healthy. The fact is that the Cubs are going to be free-spenders and try to win a championship that way. Nothing wrong with that — if it works. If it doesn’t? That’s a lot of jack for no results.

Hey… NO RESULTS = Chicago Cubs…what a concept! :)

— Greg
10:05 pm July 15th, 2008

ya but by then soriano’s salary is going to seem cheap in comparison to what others will be making. $20 million then will be like $10 million now. and i agree that lohse got snubbed and should have made the team, but its not like marmol begged and pleaded to get the open roster spot. players voted on it and i bet if you asked marmol he would tell you he didn’t deserve it. you guys are drowning me with your river of tears.

— bojangles
12:52 am July 16th, 2008

I am not fond of the All - Star game deciding home field advantage in the WS. 15 innings is absolutley ridiculous. I think that first and foremost the All- Star game should be about giving the players a “break”. The baseball season is obviously a grind, these guys travel around the country for half the year almost nonstop. I would watch the AS game still even if it ended in a tie and the game didn’t matter, but what really matters is the regular season, and I would rather have players well rested for the long haul.

I agree that a manager could easily abuse his power and use a pitcher for longer than necesssary. This is the All- Star “break” the players should be resting and healing.

— emc2013
8:05 am July 16th, 2008

Sounds like the “Cub factor,” like the “ex-Cub” factor, was the “karma” that skewered the National League’s chances to win the All-Star Game and home field advantage in the World Series. The small bears despite their ubiquitous presence all over the playing field could not do what they traditionally could not do… Deliver…The Fukudome selection was awful, when so many others were more deserving.

— joe
10:13 am July 16th, 2008

Fan voting for All Stars has degenerated to a ballot stuffing contest. Derrick, do you know when players vote [earliest/latest voting allowed), and what percentage actually do? Several picks, such as Marmol, make it appear it was a couple of months ago.

— Elena
10:51 am July 16th, 2008

On the remarkable comnmment:
“Winning for organizations like the Cubs .Yankees , and Red Sox is like going to Time Square looking to buy a hooker, succeeding and then calling the experience true love. How else are the Cubs going to win? Do they have the baseball smarts to get a Lohse et.el. Oh I forget the trade that sent Broglio to the cubs for Brock.”

Yes–it seems the Cubs do have the baseball smarts to pick up Reed Johnson and an guy named Edmonds–remember him?

— SJC
11:47 am July 16th, 2008

Edmonds is pretty much a moot point, unless Cards fans are still dwelling on his playing with the Cubs. At this point, Ankiel has more range, a better throwing arm, and better overall stats. The Cardinals did the right thing by moving on.

— Cardsballhawk
12:01 pm July 16th, 2008

I was truly embarrassed by the ease with which AL stole bases against the NL ALL-STAR catchers. Surely someone will note that someone like Molina, with a .310+ average and an arm that keeps runners quiet should have been there and will again deserve to be there next year?

— paul schoaff
8:54 pm July 17th, 2008