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07.22.2008 2:39 pm

The Cardinals’ Closer Quandary

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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TOWER GROVE — Manager Tony La Russa met with reliever Jason Isringhausen before Monday’s game to talk about more than just Sunday’s ninth-inning mess. La Russa expressed an opinion that he said the night before and was about to offer publicly: Isringhausen is scuffling because he’s “distracted.”

He’s thinking about the role he wants, not the role he has, La Russa suggested.

He’s thinking about getting eight more saves, not the one at hand.

“My two cents is, No. 1, he’s feeling good,” La Russa said. “He’s getting distracted by ‘What’s my role? I want to get eight saves.’ You can’t get distracted in this game. Tune out the distractions and get more consistent.”

In the last couple weeks, La Russa has been reluctant to definitively discuss a plan for Isringhausen or how the Cardinals will close games. Ryan Franklin has done the job in Isringhausen’s absence, and La Russa has at times suggested that Franklin would continue to do so until Isringhausen is “the best candidate.” The manager has also suggested he would use matchups to guide him, and his actions have supported that. He used Franklin for a two-inning save Saturday with the idea that he was the best choice — and he had Isringhausen available to close Sunday.

A modified closer by committee approach seemed to be brewing.

But on consecutive days, both Franklin and Isringhausen have had trouble. Isringhausen blew his chance at save No. 293 on Sunday because of what he called a “(cruddy) curveball” and an inability “to finish off hitters when I had the chance.” Franklin admitted to fighting a mechanical problem recently — he’s “falling off the mound”, or taking himself too far afield after his follow through. Russ Springer said he plays catch with Franklin everyday and said, “I know he has the stuff, and it seems he found out tonight what’s been bothering him.”

The Cardinals are faced with a quandary — bordering on a quagmire — when it comes to closing out games. Franklin has done, as a few teammates said, ”a great job under pressure in a role he didn’t expect to have.” Isringhausen does not appear any closer to taking the closer role, but there remains internal interest in having him seize the role, get his 300 saves and restore order to the bullpen.

Still, seems it’s time for a conversation, at least externally, on alternate candidates.

The Cardinals have a pitcher who is nearing a return to the major leagues after missing time with an injury. When he’s healthy: He’s got velocity. He’s got that put-away pitch. He’s got the poise, certainly. He knows what it’s like under the spotlights, in the heat of the moment — and he’s succeeded in those situations. You’d think he has the guts to close, because he’s shown the stuff to close.

But the plan right now is to use Chris Carpenter as a starter.

It has become a popular parlor game to play. Who else should be given a chance to close, or can the Cardinals call on to close if the current situation erupts again? Candidates, beyond Franklin and Isringhaunse, offered up on the air and in conversation include:

  • Adam Wainwright, RHP. His turn in the role as closer during the 2006 Postseason still resonates. The longer he goes without being in the rotation means the longer he’s gone since throwing a competitive pitch. Time could run out on a rehab assignment, and the idea would be to bring him back conditioned to throw a few innings, not the load a starter has to be ready for. Wainwright has taken time to keep his arm, his shoulder and his legs in shape to pitch while he’s recovered from the ruptured pulley in his right finger. He believes that will allow him to get back to the rotation more quickly. As magnified as the late-inning situation has become, the Cardinals still need quality innings from their starters and are in no position to turn an arm capable of being a No. 1 starter into a ninth-inning reliever. Better to have that arm throw seven or eight innings every five days and get the lead than one inning when they have a lead.
  • Kyle McClellan. This would be filed on the Wainwright Plan. Just as Wainwright did in his rookie year, McClellan is serving an apprentice role as a reliever before he’s expected to join the rotation. McClellan has four quality pitches, and he and Springer have the best strike-out pitches in the bullpen. Ron Villone leads the relievers with a 9.25 K/9, followed by Chris Perez’s 8.37, Springer’s 7.84 and McClellan’s 7.17. While McClellan appears to have the Teflon confidence needed and ability to bounceback from disaster (see: Miguel Tejada) Durability would be a question, as McClellan has pitched a lot but the Cardinals have also been protective of having overusing the righthander from series to series. A twist here, however, is whether it’s worth exploring McClellan as not just the closer now, but the closer eventually. Isringhausen’s contract expires at the end of this season and the Cardinals will be looking.
  • Chris Perez. Colleague Joe Strauss had one of the lines of the year about the “overheated” prospect watchers “standing down” on the fireballer. Perez has been returned to Triple-A to work on his slider. The Cardinals gave him specific instructions to throw a slider for every three fastballs, and that he shouldn’t focus so much on box-score results but pitch-to-pitch results. The fastball is nice, but even velocity needs a complement to be effective. He’s been groomed for the role, but isn’t seen as ready for it now.
  • Outside the organization. There are some experienced closers out there, who may be available via trade. But the cost is high. The Cardinals have expressed interest in some, and found what it would take in some cases distasteful.
  • Chris Carpenter. This is a lark. A conversation-starter here, but a non-starter at the ballpark, I imagine. Carpenter expects to get his arm strong and ready to start when he returns from the rehab assignment he’s on. And, as with Wainwright, the Cardinals need quality innings from starters as much as they need a quality finisher for the bullpen. Still, Carpenter has to increase his pitch count to be ready to return to the majors. That means climbing to, say, 75 in his next outing, 80 or 90 in that third outing – not unlike the building pitch count a starter has in his spring training starts. The only way the Cardinals would consider using Carpenter as a reliever is if he has a problem building his pitch count to the level a starter needs.

The addition of a healthy and effective tandem of aces in Carpenter and Wainwright to the rotation radically changes how the Cardinals would look down the backstretch of the season. Combined with tonight’s starter, Kyle Lohse (12-2, 3.35), that threesome could offer the Cardinals the kind of rotation that thrives in a playoff series and certainly is a worthy answer to the rotations fielded by the Sabathia-Sheets Brewers and Zambrano-Harden Cubs.  

But even with that trio of starters, the Cardinals fully expect to play a lot of close games. Close games means having a closer. And that’s the question here: Who should be that guy? Who will be?

“I you look at it, we’ve played a (heckuva lot) of close games,” Franklin said. “It’s not like we have a three-run lead or or more when we’re going out there. Everybody says we need help, that the bullpen needs help. I don’t see it. We can (bounce back). You can’t let (the potholes) bother you, can’t let it get you down. Stay focused and work your butt off the next day.”

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Assuming both Carpenter and Wainright return to the rotation, 2 would have to leave the rotation. 1 most likely being Garcia/Boggs, a 2nd would more than likely be Wellemeyer or Looper, both relievers in years past. If Wellemeyer is truly healthy and not doped up on elbow numbing drugs, he might just have the right stuff to close out games but I’m not quite certain he is healthy as his “not as biting” slider/breaking pitch might indicate. Looper may not have the “stuff” the others possess but he’s closed before (some would argue not all that effectively) and the experience does go a long way.

There aren’t too many Parisi for Mariano Rivera deals out there that can be made so I think you’re best bet is from within and in order: Wellemeyer, Looper, Perez, McClellan, Springer. I don’t care if Izzy needs 1 more save to get to 1000, he stinks right now and we don’t need him blowing anymore games and Franklin is best suited for the 8th.

— Gerry
3:04 pm July 22nd, 2008

With all the trade talk lately about trying to acquire a LHRP. I think that the answer might be within the organization. McClellan has been far more effective against LH batter than RH batters. Left handed hitters are hitting only .188 of off him, and RH hitters are hitting .299 against K-mac. So possibly there is an answer from within the organization for the LHRP problem.

— emc2013
3:20 pm July 22nd, 2008

I like the Looper/Welly suggestion. Either/both could be available and have no defined role when (if) the Aces return. The situation requires some creative thinking. The Cards have taken a season where expectations were reduced and gotten their fans excited about the possibilities. I think the future is very good and the Cards need to make that priority one, which is what they seem to have been doing all season.

— b_hern39
3:49 pm July 22nd, 2008

Why isn’t Springer a possibility? It seems to me that he should be one of the top candidates, possibly even THE top candidate, based on his performance so far this year. And if there is concern about him pitching too many innings, then he could share the role with either McClellan, Franklin, or Wellemeyer (or possibly someone else, but those are the ones who make the most sense to me).

— Paul H
4:26 pm July 22nd, 2008

I hear Dave Veres is trying to make a comeback.

— texasredbird
4:28 pm July 22nd, 2008

I would like to see the ball given to Russ Springer in the 9th inning. He’s had a strong season and has the veteran experience. Granted, he won’t be able to close daily due to age and the wear and tear of the role. I’d have no problem with Franklin filling in occasionally to give a Russ a break.

If we make any kind of a trade that requires us to move top prospects, we better get a shut down closer in return.

— Cardsballhawk
4:32 pm July 22nd, 2008

Nice Post, DG…

I agree that the Cardinals have to make the future the number one priority. With the Cardinals pen struggling so much, and the Cardinals being in contention at the same time, teams are going to realize this ,and see how much the Cardinals will be willing to give up. A few years down the road Raz will be much more valuable in the long run that George Sherrill, and a Jesse Todd will be worth more than a Brian Fuentes.

As Gerry mentioned two pitchers currently in the rotation will be forced out upon the return of Carp and Wainer. I would like to see to see the rotation shape up with these five members: Carp, Wainer, Lohse, Welle, and Pineiro. This forcing Looper to move to the pen.

Can’t understand why Kelvin Jimenez is in the Big Leagues, instead of at Memphis. I would expect at some point for CPR to be recalled , and Kelvin to be sent back down.

In last nights game the Cards carrying 13 pitchers really killed them. I don’t get why Randy Flores is still up when there is Ron Villone to face Leftys, and when Villone can’t go then K-mac, as I mentioned earlier has dominated against left handed batting.

— emc2013
4:39 pm July 22nd, 2008

DG, a question…how does the bullpen do when the pitcher has gone 7 or 8 innings as opposed to 5 or 6? I know we don’t have a lot of 7 or 8 inning outings by our starters and it would be a small sample size, but I’m curious about whether the bullpen would improve if we had Waino, Carp, Lohse in the rotation regularly going 7 innings each (I know that may be a lot to ask of Carp at first). But, my main point was really whether the bullpen might not be such an issue if they only have to cover 2 innings. I’m not talking about wearing them out with excess innings over a period of days or weeks, but rather having to use only a set-up man and a closer most of the time. Does the bullpen do better in that situation?

— ldomino
5:04 pm July 22nd, 2008

Everybody seems to be happy with putting Carpenter and Wainwright into the starting rotation… but the starting rotation has not been the problem. If the Cards weren’t blowing saves left and right they would be winning this division. If they had just held on to half of the BS games they lost their record would be something like 63-38 and they’d have a nice 4-game cushion over the Cubs. Izzy has flat out lost it. You can dream he will again be the closer he once was, but it ain’t gonna happen. Franklin hasn’t gotten the job done consistently. The obvious answer is to make Wainwright the closer. He’s had the role before in the most pressure-packed situation imaginable and was lights out. I don’t believe any of the guys currently in the rotation could step into that role as Wainwright did and be anywhere near as successful. On the other hand, by and large they’ve done a great job in the rotation, so leave them there!

— Dennis
5:04 pm July 22nd, 2008

This is eerily similar to 2003. The organization did nothing during that season to shore up the pitching, and as a result the Cubs won the division. A division that was easily obtainable for the Cardinals.

— Sportsman's Park
5:30 pm July 22nd, 2008

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