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07.22.2008 2:39 pm

The Cardinals’ Closer Quandary

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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TOWER GROVE — Manager Tony La Russa met with reliever Jason Isringhausen before Monday’s game to talk about more than just Sunday’s ninth-inning mess. La Russa expressed an opinion that he said the night before and was about to offer publicly: Isringhausen is scuffling because he’s “distracted.”

He’s thinking about the role he wants, not the role he has, La Russa suggested.

He’s thinking about getting eight more saves, not the one at hand.

“My two cents is, No. 1, he’s feeling good,” La Russa said. “He’s getting distracted by ‘What’s my role? I want to get eight saves.’ You can’t get distracted in this game. Tune out the distractions and get more consistent.”

In the last couple weeks, La Russa has been reluctant to definitively discuss a plan for Isringhausen or how the Cardinals will close games. Ryan Franklin has done the job in Isringhausen’s absence, and La Russa has at times suggested that Franklin would continue to do so until Isringhausen is “the best candidate.” The manager has also suggested he would use matchups to guide him, and his actions have supported that. He used Franklin for a two-inning save Saturday with the idea that he was the best choice — and he had Isringhausen available to close Sunday.

A modified closer by committee approach seemed to be brewing.

But on consecutive days, both Franklin and Isringhausen have had trouble. Isringhausen blew his chance at save No. 293 on Sunday because of what he called a “(cruddy) curveball” and an inability “to finish off hitters when I had the chance.” Franklin admitted to fighting a mechanical problem recently — he’s “falling off the mound”, or taking himself too far afield after his follow through. Russ Springer said he plays catch with Franklin everyday and said, “I know he has the stuff, and it seems he found out tonight what’s been bothering him.”

The Cardinals are faced with a quandary — bordering on a quagmire — when it comes to closing out games. Franklin has done, as a few teammates said, ”a great job under pressure in a role he didn’t expect to have.” Isringhausen does not appear any closer to taking the closer role, but there remains internal interest in having him seize the role, get his 300 saves and restore order to the bullpen.

Still, seems it’s time for a conversation, at least externally, on alternate candidates.

The Cardinals have a pitcher who is nearing a return to the major leagues after missing time with an injury. When he’s healthy: He’s got velocity. He’s got that put-away pitch. He’s got the poise, certainly. He knows what it’s like under the spotlights, in the heat of the moment — and he’s succeeded in those situations. You’d think he has the guts to close, because he’s shown the stuff to close.

But the plan right now is to use Chris Carpenter as a starter.

It has become a popular parlor game to play. Who else should be given a chance to close, or can the Cardinals call on to close if the current situation erupts again? Candidates, beyond Franklin and Isringhaunse, offered up on the air and in conversation include:

  • Adam Wainwright, RHP. His turn in the role as closer during the 2006 Postseason still resonates. The longer he goes without being in the rotation means the longer he’s gone since throwing a competitive pitch. Time could run out on a rehab assignment, and the idea would be to bring him back conditioned to throw a few innings, not the load a starter has to be ready for. Wainwright has taken time to keep his arm, his shoulder and his legs in shape to pitch while he’s recovered from the ruptured pulley in his right finger. He believes that will allow him to get back to the rotation more quickly. As magnified as the late-inning situation has become, the Cardinals still need quality innings from their starters and are in no position to turn an arm capable of being a No. 1 starter into a ninth-inning reliever. Better to have that arm throw seven or eight innings every five days and get the lead than one inning when they have a lead.
  • Kyle McClellan. This would be filed on the Wainwright Plan. Just as Wainwright did in his rookie year, McClellan is serving an apprentice role as a reliever before he’s expected to join the rotation. McClellan has four quality pitches, and he and Springer have the best strike-out pitches in the bullpen. Ron Villone leads the relievers with a 9.25 K/9, followed by Chris Perez’s 8.37, Springer’s 7.84 and McClellan’s 7.17. While McClellan appears to have the Teflon confidence needed and ability to bounceback from disaster (see: Miguel Tejada) Durability would be a question, as McClellan has pitched a lot but the Cardinals have also been protective of having overusing the righthander from series to series. A twist here, however, is whether it’s worth exploring McClellan as not just the closer now, but the closer eventually. Isringhausen’s contract expires at the end of this season and the Cardinals will be looking.
  • Chris Perez. Colleague Joe Strauss had one of the lines of the year about the “overheated” prospect watchers “standing down” on the fireballer. Perez has been returned to Triple-A to work on his slider. The Cardinals gave him specific instructions to throw a slider for every three fastballs, and that he shouldn’t focus so much on box-score results but pitch-to-pitch results. The fastball is nice, but even velocity needs a complement to be effective. He’s been groomed for the role, but isn’t seen as ready for it now.
  • Outside the organization. There are some experienced closers out there, who may be available via trade. But the cost is high. The Cardinals have expressed interest in some, and found what it would take in some cases distasteful.
  • Chris Carpenter. This is a lark. A conversation-starter here, but a non-starter at the ballpark, I imagine. Carpenter expects to get his arm strong and ready to start when he returns from the rehab assignment he’s on. And, as with Wainwright, the Cardinals need quality innings from starters as much as they need a quality finisher for the bullpen. Still, Carpenter has to increase his pitch count to be ready to return to the majors. That means climbing to, say, 75 in his next outing, 80 or 90 in that third outing – not unlike the building pitch count a starter has in his spring training starts. The only way the Cardinals would consider using Carpenter as a reliever is if he has a problem building his pitch count to the level a starter needs.

The addition of a healthy and effective tandem of aces in Carpenter and Wainwright to the rotation radically changes how the Cardinals would look down the backstretch of the season. Combined with tonight’s starter, Kyle Lohse (12-2, 3.35), that threesome could offer the Cardinals the kind of rotation that thrives in a playoff series and certainly is a worthy answer to the rotations fielded by the Sabathia-Sheets Brewers and Zambrano-Harden Cubs.  

But even with that trio of starters, the Cardinals fully expect to play a lot of close games. Close games means having a closer. And that’s the question here: Who should be that guy? Who will be?

“I you look at it, we’ve played a (heckuva lot) of close games,” Franklin said. “It’s not like we have a three-run lead or or more when we’re going out there. Everybody says we need help, that the bullpen needs help. I don’t see it. We can (bounce back). You can’t let (the potholes) bother you, can’t let it get you down. Stay focused and work your butt off the next day.”

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The time has come to thank Izzy for his contribution in the past — and move on. Whether it’s mental or physical — I don’t care. He’s no longer effective. What many forget is that Izzy has always walked the line between disaster and success. Yes he had success– but it’s always been an adventure– and almost always involved limiting his effectiveness in subsequent games due to pitch count. So it’s time to get a closer from somewhere else.

— bullera
5:43 pm July 22nd, 2008

I like the idea of Wellemeyer getting a shot at the closer gig. We pulled him off the scrap heap, polished him up a little and we’ve got a nice little asset now. He’s never thrown this many innings before, so why really push him by extending him further than he’s ever been? Looper is leaving town after this year, keep rolling him out there and move The Colonel to the pen.

— Todd Packer
6:14 pm July 22nd, 2008

Sportsman’s Park,
While I agree with your assertion that this seems similar to 2003, wouldn’t you also agree that the goal is to build the team to look like it did in 2004 and 2005: dominant. Making a move just because the Cubs and Brewers have is not only foolish but just plain stupid. The Cardinals should only make a move to reinforce the bullpen if it doesn’t diminish the work they are doing for the long run.

— jasonmatt1
7:11 pm July 22nd, 2008

gotta go get george sherrill. signed long term and very effective left handed closer. could be the answer for next couple of years. perez could be traded along with bryan anderson if necessary. i can’t believe the diamondbacks picked up rausch for so little from washington. where was mo on this one?

— roger from lake tahoe
8:01 pm July 22nd, 2008

Obviously, they [bullpen] have a real issue as to their own specific roles. The past two games AGAINST the team you will be fighting for the division/wild card for is inexcusable. I believe they need to quit coddling these guys and let some one go if they don’t produce. I know we hear constantly about Duncan being a genius with pitchers…last I checked the bull pen was filled with pitchers. If it means letting Izzy go…well, hey, that is what has to be done. But, to sit on your laurels and let a perfect opportunity for the Cards to make the playoffs slip through your fingers…is just wicked.

— CoachDevine
10:22 pm July 22nd, 2008

I agree about Wellemeyer, he hasn’t been the same since capturing the Pitcher of the Month award in May. He’s apparently fatigued. If we get the big two back in the rotation it only makes sense to bump him back to that role. He can be overpowering with his fastball when he wants to be and when he doesn’t have to pace himself for 7 innings. Or Sherrill wouldn’t be too bad, as long as we don’t give up TOO MUCH. Don’t even mention Guardado or some of those other dinosaurs.

— dmony
7:19 am July 23rd, 2008

Pick up Fuentes from the Rockies. Must part with young starter to get him

— Bill
8:56 am July 23rd, 2008

I’ve found the suggestion that Wainwright should close as one of the worst notions. One of the main problems with our bullpen right now is over taxation. We don’t have starters going deep into games outside of Lohse. When you have four starters consistently struggling to make it five full innings, you are going to over tax your bullpen arms. The first step to fixing the pen is getting a competent rotation that can consistently put up innings. When you have the fortune of having both Carpenter and Wainwright as possible additions (and yes I actually believe they will return this year and produce unlike the Mulder or Clement jokes) you’re in good shape for fixing the rotation.

Rotation: Carpenter, Wainwright, Lohse, Pinero and Looper

Now that you have a decent productive rotation put together, you start defining roles for your bullpen. Who fits in? Wellemeyer, Thompson, Izzy, Franklin, Villone, Springer, McClellan. Among this cast you need to designate some defined roles rather than committee membership. Izzy needs to be told that he has to earn his spot as a closer back. He has too convoluted a history from 2006 on to have that position just handed back to him. If he is a gamer, if he really wants it he can focus. In the meantime Franklin closes. But he is the closer. No more long relief closes. If innings are getting cut down by the rotation the rest of the pen should pick up the slack and give Franklin rest. Everynight it feels like Franklin and McClellan are in (and having four innings to deal with doesn’t help) so its no wonder they have crap games every third game. We’re beating the crap out of them. Thompson or Wellemeyer get the long relief role. The goal should be to get 6-7 innings out of the starter with an inning from 2-3 relievers late in the game, or a few innings from your long relief types. How mine would it be to get say 6 innings from Pinero and then hand the ball to Wellemeyer for two more and then hand it over to Franklin? Look at all the nice pretty relievers that aren’t used. Maybe the next night you get 7 from Carp and can use Thompson and Villone. Oh my God, more rest for the pen. It’s like a nice snow ball. Once we get some of these 4-5 inning guys out of the rotation things will improve.

— RCJ
9:17 am July 23rd, 2008

Dennis is the kind of fan I’m talking about with the Wainwright thing. It’s very important to have a shutdown closer. But a strong starter is a lot more valuable. Baseball isn’t a sprint, its an endurance race. Early on our pen was fine, minus Izzy who clearly is incapable of closing. At the time we had a stronger starting staff at the season was fresh. As the season progressed and we starting taxing the bullpen more, especially after Wainwright went down and we started the rookie starter of the day game, things got progressively worse.

Dennis doesn’t have the sight to realize that a bullpen is better the fewer innings they are exposed. He seems to think that the team will be just fine running Loop and Wellemeyer and Parisi/Boggs/whoever out to pitch at most 5 innings for three nights in a row if we can throw Wainwright in the ninth every night. Guess what, eventually Wainwright will tire and start letting games go. Certainly if we limp into the post season with Waino as the closer we won’t go very far against the rest of the competition using Loop or Wellemeyer in a starting roll and with the rest of the pen taxed beyond repair.

— RCJ
9:31 am July 23rd, 2008

A lot of good talk here, I just wish that the Cards coaches, GM, etc. would take time to read any of it. The ‘closer by committee’ idea has not worked and I think it leaves too much uncertainty with the players. The Mets bullpen collapsed last night after Wagner was found to be hurt. This is an example of how having a strong closer, one who gives confidence to other relievers is so important.

— CJ
9:31 am July 23rd, 2008

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