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08.03.2008 1:20 am

Name the Cardinals’ All-Time 3 Stars

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DOWNTOWN — Back in my early days at the P-D covering hockey, the selection of the “Three Stars” at each game was, loosely, my responsibility. Toward the end of the game, a quick straw poll was taken of the other writers in the box. Sometimes the selections were obvious. Sometimes they weren’t. Sometimes they drew compliments. A few times they sparked debate. My name was on the box score, so I took it seriously.

(Ask Chris Kerber about Jean-Sebastien Giguere sometime.)

Tonight ESPN takes hockey’s “Three Star” tradition and applies it to baseball, with a broader, historic range of candidates.

According to a paragraph in Saturday’s Cardinals’ games notes, ESPN’s Baseball Tonight’s panel of experts will begin a monthlong debate on the “top three players all-time for each francise.” The discussion begins tonight and as prelude to the Cardinals-Phillies telecast from Busch Stadium, the Cardinals are the first to get the three-star treatment.

A poll of fans conducted at ESPN.com will help augment the experts’ selections.

But why wait?

During Saturday’s game, we kicked around the three-star concept. Would Evan Longoria already rank in Tampa Bay’s Fab 3? Certainly Carl Crawford is No. 1. How do you pick three New York Yankees? I mean after Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig, that is. Is there a modern player who will crack the top-three lists of the historic franchises — the 18 who were around in 1961, for example? Two candidates: Barry Bonds, obviously, and, in LA, Mike Piazza.

To settle on a Cardinals’ “Three Stars”, we started on the wall.

Out in left field at Busch Stadium, there’s a good shortlist of candidates for the top-three list: They are the retired numbers. With Ducky Medwick and Albert Pujols as, arguably, the only exceptions, the retired numbers will provide the Cardinals’ top three. They are:

1 — Ozzie Smith … 2 — Red Schoendienst … 6 — Stan Musial … 9 — Enos Slaughter … 14 — Ken Boyer … 17 — Dizzy Dean … 20 — Lou Brock … 42 — Bruce Sutter … 45 — Bob Gibson. … STL — Rogers Hornsby.

This is the starting place for any ranking of the top three all-time players in Cardinals history. The online poll is likely to reflect its times, heavily weighing toward modern players or living legends. That said, as Hall of Famer  Rick Hummel and I discussed the “Three Stars” from Cardinals’ history and wondered who should skate away with those honors, there appeared to be two locks and a few candidates for No. 3.

Offer up yours in the comment area below. Mine? Mine:

  1. Musial
  2. Gibson
  3. Hornsby

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Those are the same three I’d choose. Good call DG…

— cardsrul
2:00 am August 3rd, 2008

1. Musial

2. Gibby

3. Albert (by the time he is done…does that count?)

— GForce9
4:03 am August 3rd, 2008

Answered my own question. I agree with you as well, DG. Though I want to put the Wizard in there, I know it is only because of my childhood.

— GForce9
4:05 am August 3rd, 2008

Couldn’t agree more as these guys had HUGE performance, influence on the game, or both –
1) Stan the Man - pure hitter
2) Gibby - pure power
3) El Hombre - hitter with power
Looking at retirees only, and looking performance and influence you’ve gotta go with add either Hornsby or Brock. Can we make it Top 4??

— George in London
5:49 am August 3rd, 2008

I think Albert belongs. My 3 are:
Stan Musial
Bob Gibson
Albert Pujols

Good arguments can be made for Rogers Hornsby and Ozzie Smith, but if confined to three picks, I take 6, 45 and 5. 6manfan

— 6man fan
6:27 am August 3rd, 2008

I agree. It’s too early to tell about Albert, but maybe he’ll take over the number three slot eventually. He might even be number two and push Gibby to number three. Stan the Man will always and forever be number one.

— Robert
6:42 am August 3rd, 2008

I agree with DG, Musial was easily the greatest Cardinal, Gibson was the greatest pitcher. Hornsby brought ST Louis their first World Series ever. He was also probably the greatest 2nd baseman. He hit for power in a time when there wasn’t much power. The man also batted over .400 multiple times, you can’t leave him out.

— emallory
6:44 am August 3rd, 2008

Can’t go wrong with your three DG…I really liked seeing Hornsby in there because I don’t believe he gets the overall notice he deserves in Cardinal history (more by the fans then anyone else). The Rajah is arguable the greatest righthanded hitter of all time.
One other name I want to throw out for consideration even though he isn’t in the group…Ted Simmons. I’m not saying he should be one of the three, but I think he deserves consideration in this group…and 23 should be retired!

— HighHeat23
7:16 am August 3rd, 2008

100% agreement.

— David
8:18 am August 3rd, 2008

1. Musial
2. Gibson
3. Brock

— Tom Roberts
8:21 am August 3rd, 2008

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