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Name the Cardinals’ All-Time 3 Stars

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DOWNTOWN — Back in my early days at the P-D covering hockey, the selection of the “Three Stars” at each game was, loosely, my responsibility. Toward the end of the game, a quick straw poll was taken of the other writers in the box. Sometimes the selections were obvious. Sometimes they weren’t. Sometimes they drew compliments. A few times they sparked debate. My name was on the box score, so I took it seriously.

(Ask Chris Kerber about Jean-Sebastien Giguere sometime.)

Tonight ESPN takes hockey’s “Three Star” tradition and applies it to baseball, with a broader, historic range of candidates.

According to a paragraph in Saturday’s Cardinals’ games notes, ESPN’s Baseball Tonight’s panel of experts will begin a monthlong debate on the “top three players all-time for each francise.” The discussion begins tonight and as prelude to the Cardinals-Phillies telecast from Busch Stadium, the Cardinals are the first to get the three-star treatment.

A poll of fans conducted at ESPN.com will help augment the experts’ selections.

But why wait?

During Saturday’s game, we kicked around the three-star concept. Would Evan Longoria already rank in Tampa Bay’s Fab 3? Certainly Carl Crawford is No. 1. How do you pick three New York Yankees? I mean after Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig, that is. Is there a modern player who will crack the top-three lists of the historic franchises — the 18 who were around in 1961, for example? Two candidates: Barry Bonds, obviously, and, in LA, Mike Piazza.

To settle on a Cardinals’ “Three Stars”, we started on the wall.

Out in left field at Busch Stadium, there’s a good shortlist of candidates for the top-three list: They are the retired numbers. With Ducky Medwick and Albert Pujols as, arguably, the only exceptions, the retired numbers will provide the Cardinals’ top three. They are:

1 — Ozzie Smith … 2 — Red Schoendienst … 6 — Stan Musial … 9 — Enos Slaughter … 14 — Ken Boyer … 17 — Dizzy Dean … 20 — Lou Brock … 42 — Bruce Sutter … 45 — Bob Gibson. … STL — Rogers Hornsby.

This is the starting place for any ranking of the top three all-time players in Cardinals history. The online poll is likely to reflect its times, heavily weighing toward modern players or living legends. That said, as Hall of Famer  Rick Hummel and I discussed the “Three Stars” from Cardinals’ history and wondered who should skate away with those honors, there appeared to be two locks and a few candidates for No. 3.

Offer up yours in the comment area below. Mine? Mine:

  1. Musial
  2. Gibson
  3. Hornsby

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McGwire? Seriously? On lists that didn’t include Pujols … please explain. Though, McGwire did help build the Cardinals of the 2000s by walking away from a salary the Cardinals then used elsewhere.

— Derrick Goold
1:17 pm August 4th, 2008

HORNSBY WAS THE GREATEST HITTER IN CARDINAL HISTORY.
SO ITS:
MUSIAL
HORNSBY
GIBSON

— PAUL B
1:21 pm August 4th, 2008

You have to go with the late 90s outfield:
1. Brian Jordan
2. Ron Gant
3. Ray Lankford

— gocards
2:26 pm August 4th, 2008

I nominate:
1. Stan The Man Musial (The Number One Cardinal of all time)
2. Bob Gibson (One of the toughest pitchers ever)
3. Rogers Hornsby ( Never saw him, but my dad told me a lot about him)

— prestanfan
2:42 pm August 4th, 2008

Wonder why Mark Mcquire hasn’t been mentioned? People shure do hold a grudge for a long time.

— chester
2:56 pm August 4th, 2008

1.) Musial (Top ten player of all time)
2.) Hornsby (Greatest 2b of all time)
3.) Ozzie ( Greatest defensive player of all time)

— Steve
3:00 pm August 4th, 2008

Now…who are the three in the OTHER direction?

1. Juan Agosto
2. Al Santorini
3. Jeff Brantley

— John C
3:16 pm August 4th, 2008

Top 3 Cardinals

1. Stan-he is Mr. Cardinal
2. Gibby-I will argue til the day I die that Bob Gibson is the best right-handed pitcher in baseball’s modern era
3. Ozzie-The Wizard was probably the greatest defensive shortstop of all time

— Mike
3:19 pm August 4th, 2008

I still like Mark McGuire. I like Albert Pujols. I like Lou Brock.

— honabe
3:19 pm August 4th, 2008

Pujols??? No doubt that if he keeps on his current pace he’ll be an all-time Cardinal great and an all-time MLB great too. Of course that is also assuming he remains a Redbird for a large part of his career. This is an all-time list, not a “he’s gonna be an all-timer some day in the future” list. The top 3 have to be:

1. Musial
2. Gibson
3. Brock (with Hornsby a close 4th.)

Hey maybe we should put Jim Edmonds on this list, oh wait he’s a Cub so now we can’t even acknowledge how great and valuable he was in St. Louis, right Bernie? Dopey Cardinal “Nation”.

— FirstPlaceCubs
4:03 pm August 4th, 2008

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