Name the Cardinals’ All-Time 3 Stars
DOWNTOWN — Back in my early days at the P-D covering hockey, the selection of the “Three Stars” at each game was, loosely, my responsibility. Toward the end of the game, a quick straw poll was taken of the other writers in the box. Sometimes the selections were obvious. Sometimes they weren’t. Sometimes they drew compliments. A few times they sparked debate. My name was on the box score, so I took it seriously.
(Ask Chris Kerber about Jean-Sebastien Giguere sometime.)
Tonight ESPN takes hockey’s “Three Star” tradition and applies it to baseball, with a broader, historic range of candidates.
According to a paragraph in Saturday’s Cardinals’ games notes, ESPN’s Baseball Tonight’s panel of experts will begin a monthlong debate on the “top three players all-time for each francise.” The discussion begins tonight and as prelude to the Cardinals-Phillies telecast from Busch Stadium, the Cardinals are the first to get the three-star treatment.
A poll of fans conducted at ESPN.com will help augment the experts’ selections.
But why wait?
During Saturday’s game, we kicked around the three-star concept. Would Evan Longoria already rank in Tampa Bay’s Fab 3? Certainly Carl Crawford is No. 1. How do you pick three New York Yankees? I mean after Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig, that is. Is there a modern player who will crack the top-three lists of the historic franchises — the 18 who were around in 1961, for example? Two candidates: Barry Bonds, obviously, and, in LA, Mike Piazza.
To settle on a Cardinals’ “Three Stars”, we started on the wall.
Out in left field at Busch Stadium, there’s a good shortlist of candidates for the top-three list: They are the retired numbers. With Ducky Medwick and Albert Pujols as, arguably, the only exceptions, the retired numbers will provide the Cardinals’ top three. They are:
1 — Ozzie Smith … 2 — Red Schoendienst … 6 — Stan Musial … 9 — Enos Slaughter … 14 — Ken Boyer … 17 — Dizzy Dean … 20 — Lou Brock … 42 — Bruce Sutter … 45 — Bob Gibson. … STL — Rogers Hornsby.
This is the starting place for any ranking of the top three all-time players in Cardinals history. The online poll is likely to reflect its times, heavily weighing toward modern players or living legends. That said, as Hall of Famer Rick Hummel and I discussed the “Three Stars” from Cardinals’ history and wondered who should skate away with those honors, there appeared to be two locks and a few candidates for No. 3.
Offer up yours in the comment area below. Mine? Mine:
- Musial
- Gibson
- Hornsby
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Derrick Goold said he was going to Mizzou for capital-J journalism, but after growing up in the Time Zone Baseball Forgot he was really drawn to MU sitting between two major-league cities. Goold joined the Post-Dispatch in 2001 after working for The Times-Picayune and Rocky Mountain News, covering sports from LSU to NHL and every level of baseball in between.
Lou Brock
Albert Pujols
Stan )The Man) Musial
Just to be different…
Musial
Hornsby
Dean
Mostly because I don’t think Diz is getting the attention he deserves.
Dizzy’s career ERA: 3.02 — Gibby: 2.91
Dizzy’s SO/BB ratio: 2.57:1 — Gibby: 2.33:1
1 MVP each
They didn’t have Gold Gloves back then. Tough call, but I gotta go with Diz…
I agree whole-heartedly. Those are the 3 that came immediately to mind. Of course, it might be that it’s because I can remember all three. I’m proud to cheer on a club with so many “superstars” in its history!
Ebbysmom
1. Mark McGwire
2. Mark McGwire
3. Mark McGwire
Agree on Dean, Slaughter and several others from the 30’s-50’s. Never saw them play but heard many stories from my Dad. Just watching the old film clips shows their desire and dedication to the game. Watching some of the current Cardinal ”stars” make you wonder.
Top Three
1. Stan the Man
2. Bob Gibson
3. Ozzie Smith
Ozzie defined the Cards in the 80’s and was the face of that franchise. Who doesn’t know the flip and that silky smooth glove? Go crazy folks, go crazy!
Good call! Musial and Gibson are #1 and #2. Hornsby, Pujols, Schoendienst, Brock, Ozzie Smith, Slaughter would all be qualified as #3.
Ozzie, Willie McGee, Vince Coleman.
I really don’t understand the Ozzie love fest by some folks. He was a really fun player to watch who benefited from playing during one of the most exciting periods of Cardinal baseball. However, to win a game on any given day, I would prefer the combination of offensive AND defensive performance Edgar Rentaria displayed during his time in STL. Edgars crime was in leaving, but is that worse than the “all about me” way that Ozzie bowed out.
Alot of great Cards over the years.
Non better than the three listed:
Stan, Gibson, Hornsby…In a few years we can make our own Mt. Rushmore by adding Albert!
Hornsby became a Cub later, inexcusable and it prevents him from this list. Gotta move Albert up there. Brock, Edmonds and Lynn McGlothen are eliminated for the same reasons.
Musial, Gibby and Albert.