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08.03.2008 1:20 am

Name the Cardinals’ All-Time 3 Stars

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DOWNTOWN — Back in my early days at the P-D covering hockey, the selection of the “Three Stars” at each game was, loosely, my responsibility. Toward the end of the game, a quick straw poll was taken of the other writers in the box. Sometimes the selections were obvious. Sometimes they weren’t. Sometimes they drew compliments. A few times they sparked debate. My name was on the box score, so I took it seriously.

(Ask Chris Kerber about Jean-Sebastien Giguere sometime.)

Tonight ESPN takes hockey’s “Three Star” tradition and applies it to baseball, with a broader, historic range of candidates.

According to a paragraph in Saturday’s Cardinals’ games notes, ESPN’s Baseball Tonight’s panel of experts will begin a monthlong debate on the “top three players all-time for each francise.” The discussion begins tonight and as prelude to the Cardinals-Phillies telecast from Busch Stadium, the Cardinals are the first to get the three-star treatment.

A poll of fans conducted at ESPN.com will help augment the experts’ selections.

But why wait?

During Saturday’s game, we kicked around the three-star concept. Would Evan Longoria already rank in Tampa Bay’s Fab 3? Certainly Carl Crawford is No. 1. How do you pick three New York Yankees? I mean after Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig, that is. Is there a modern player who will crack the top-three lists of the historic franchises — the 18 who were around in 1961, for example? Two candidates: Barry Bonds, obviously, and, in LA, Mike Piazza.

To settle on a Cardinals’ “Three Stars”, we started on the wall.

Out in left field at Busch Stadium, there’s a good shortlist of candidates for the top-three list: They are the retired numbers. With Ducky Medwick and Albert Pujols as, arguably, the only exceptions, the retired numbers will provide the Cardinals’ top three. They are:

1 — Ozzie Smith … 2 — Red Schoendienst … 6 — Stan Musial … 9 — Enos Slaughter … 14 — Ken Boyer … 17 — Dizzy Dean … 20 — Lou Brock … 42 — Bruce Sutter … 45 — Bob Gibson. … STL — Rogers Hornsby.

This is the starting place for any ranking of the top three all-time players in Cardinals history. The online poll is likely to reflect its times, heavily weighing toward modern players or living legends. That said, as Hall of Famer  Rick Hummel and I discussed the “Three Stars” from Cardinals’ history and wondered who should skate away with those honors, there appeared to be two locks and a few candidates for No. 3.

Offer up yours in the comment area below. Mine? Mine:

  1. Musial
  2. Gibson
  3. Hornsby

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1. Willie McGee

2. Albert Pujols

3. Ted Simmons

— Sean
9:18 pm August 3rd, 2008

Royals???

1. Don Denkinger
2. Don Denkinger
3. Don Denkinger

— Sean
9:26 pm August 3rd, 2008

Can’t argue with the picks or the order.
1. Stan
2. Gibby
3. Hornsby
Lou would be fourth and Boyer fifth.
Ozzie was a nice player and a great SS I loved watching, but in my eyes is over-loved in STL and I wouldn’t have put him in the HOF or even consider him for this list.

— Doodahday
10:55 pm August 3rd, 2008

When I read the headline, I made two quick decisions, then came time for the third name. After the strange feeling of not including Ozzie Smith, Brock, and the others, Hornsby was the obvious choice.

While any of the retired numbered players could make the list, isn’t it great that the Cardinals have such a strong history that the choices are difficult because so many past players were at such a high level?

— sccworlds
12:05 am August 4th, 2008

1. Musial
2. Pujols
3. Hornsby

Gibson and Ozzie would be tied for fourth. I stumbled onto ‘60 Minutes’ last night and they interviewed statistical guru Bill James, who stated that Albert is the best player in the game today.

Quite frankly, I’m surprised that Hornsby’s feats are well-known enough in the Cardinals blogosphere to have him included by so many people. Often, I feel people’s knowledge of history only begins the year they were born…and I doubt most bloggers are ninety years old (!)

— John C
4:48 am August 4th, 2008

Stan “The Man” Musial is number 1, Rogers Hornsby is 2, Albert Pujols is 3 on my list.

— Peter Brown
5:48 am August 4th, 2008

By the way I voted “Three Finger” Brown as number 1 for the Cubs on ESPN, because he is the only one on the list to have ever worn a Cub uniform for a World Series Championship, all be it a 100 years ago.

— Peter Brown
5:51 am August 4th, 2008

Based on Star Power.

1. Gibby
2. Ozzie
3. Big Mac

Based on the best!

1. Stan the Man
2. Gibby
3. Ozzie

— Ryan
7:28 am August 4th, 2008

Sorry all, Brock was great, but he wasn’t half the player Albert is. Hornsby is a tough omission, but Albert is that good.

1. Musial
2. Pujols
3. Gibson

— Bert
7:34 am August 4th, 2008

You have it right. Albert may one day be on the list, but Musial, Gibson and Hornsby cannot be challenged at this point in time.

— Thom
7:51 am August 4th, 2008

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