The Messages Sent by Making Moves
TOWER GROVE — Los Angeles Dodgers general manager Ned Colletti called Manny Ramirez the “caliber of player” who is “tough to turn down at this time of year”, but added there was an additional benefit of making a blockbuster move.
It was the message an appreciative front office sent to its players.
“It’s important to give (something to) the players who have played all year long for you,” Colletti said. ”This time of year, the front office has a chance … you show them you care. You show them that you’re serious and you show that you appreciate all they’ve done and what they’ve left on the field.”
Colletti’s Dodgers are two games behind NL West-leading Arizona after a loss to the Diamondbacks last night. Ramirez is scheduled to arrive and play today for the Dodgers, instantly and radically changing a lineup that lacked a power threat before yesterday’s last-minute deal. Colletti said the motivation for acquiring Ramirez was the “dimension” the All-Star brings to the lineup, but that he also wanted to reward a roster that had weathered injury, inconsistency and increased expectations to remain … well, in the NL West … in contention.
How other teams feel about that message depends on what they did at the deadline.
There apparently are two ways to spin actions (or inaction) at the deadline:
- Merit-based: They deserved a move of support from the front office.
- Confidence-based: This team is good enough to win as it is.
A search, using the Google News page, on the words ”baseball” and “deadline” and “stand pat” netted 186 hits. The headlines range from “Rays Stand Pat as Trade Deadline Passes” and “D-Backs Stand Pat After Whiffing on Teixeira”. The comments have the same variety as the headlines.
“We’re in first place … we control our destiny,” said Andrew Friedman, Tampa Bay’s vice president of baseball operations in this AP article. “We have a lot of faith in the guys we have. … I feel we have the talent on hand to continue to do what we did the first two-thirds of the season.”
“We were looking for anything, but something better than what we had,” New York Mets’ general manager Omar Minaya told reporters, as recounted here in The Daily News. He also added: “Hopefully, the guys we have will get the job done and some of our minor-league options also.”
“All we can control is what we do,” Toronto general manager J.P. Ricciardi told reporters during a telephone conference, as written in The Globe and Mail. “We’ve got … 54 games left and we’ve got to play our best baseball in these 54 games if we want to leapfrog some people in the wild card and catch anybody else in the division.”
A GM makes a move and he’s rewarding a team by saying, hey, fellas, you’ve played well enough to merit augmentation. A GM doesn’t make a move and he’s patting his lineup on back saying, way to go champs, love what you’ve done, keep battling — you’re the best guys for us, nobody better. Got it.
The sense in the Cardinals clubhouse and around the team was that they were hoping for the former. Reading between the lines of the comments made — especially those in the Philadelphia Article by senior baseball writer Joe Strauss – it was clear that the Cardinals and coaches felt they had earned a move. They had played beyond expectations, had entrenched themselves in contention and were deserving of the chance to improve via a trade.
“In my mind, if you didn’t have expectations and you were (lousy) July 1, it’s a wash,” manager Tony La Russa told Strauss and other reporters in Philadelphia. “But whether you had expectations or you didn’t, when you get to July 1 like we have, then I believe since you play the year you’re playing and don’t take anything for granted, your goal should be to improve your chance to win right now.”
La Russa, in subsequent comments, stressed that moves made to help the present should not be done at the expense of the future. He wasn’t advocating “wild, illogical” trades he said at one point in the past couple weeks. But he was saying it made sense to add to the team, to fortify it. This team had played itself into being worthy.
It wasn’t expressly said, but it was conveyed that this team merited a move.
Without one, the message shifts to the team as it is — with the recent addition of Chris Carpenter and forthcoming return of Adam Wainwright, that is — is good enough to contend. Way to go.
“I think with what they’ve accomplished, you’re starting to see day in and day out they’re very much capable of doing it,” GM John Mozeliak told Strauss in this morning’s post-deadline wrapup. (And, yes, that was one of the 186 from the Google “stand pat” search.)
So, the Dodgers were deserving of a move. The Cardinals, and many others, were complimented by no move. And while the comments are probably genuine, really the truth is somewhere inbetween. The comments are more revealing of what teams did at the deadline, not the motivation behind what they did. And what they did at the deadline is more revealing about the pressure on the team or the GM — Milwaukee in a must-win mode; the seat is hot in LA; whereas the impetus is different in, say, Tampa Bay or even with the Cardinals. (Think the Mets weren’t moved to make a deal?)
It’s never as simple as the spin.
Mozeliak said as much back at Shea Stadium when he acknowledged : “We’re going to need a lot of things to go right if we’re going to finish strong.”
Remains to be seen if one of those things was an addition at the deadline.
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Derrick Goold said he was going to Mizzou for capital-J journalism, but after growing up in the Time Zone Baseball Forgot he was really drawn to MU sitting between two major-league cities. Goold joined the Post-Dispatch in 2001 after working for The Times-Picayune and Rocky Mountain News, covering sports from LSU to NHL and every level of baseball in between. 
“Sometimes the best moves are the moves that you don’t make”.
I think Moe deserves a lot of credit for not making a “splash” move at the trading deadline. Stand pat and then pickup a “rental or two” off the waiver wires in August. He was taught by the master – Walt Jocketty – and he needs to put that experience to work now.
In my mind, the biggest question mark to the Cardinal season from here on out is about Izzy. Will he have “it” now that he’s back on familiar ground (closer’s role) or will he continue to implode? If he’s back, the rest of the bullpen falls into place. If he implodes once again (ala 2006), moving Wainwright back into his 2006 role as closer makes sense.
With Carp back in the rotation, my biggest question mark there is Joel Pineiro. Is it time to swap him for Brad Thompson?
Big Bat needed – just give AB’s to Joe Mather. His showing at the plate in the Atlanta series is just scratching the surface of what he has to offer the big club. With Mather in the lineup, along with Ankiel and Ludwick, your seeing a group of young players who could put up 30/100 numbers (HR/RBI) over the next few years.
Next on my wish list – quietly get together with Scott Boras and ink Kyle Lohse to a 3 year deal. Add him to Carp, Wainwright and you have the foundation of a strong starting staff in 2009. Sprinkle in a few youngsters like McClellan, Garcia, Mortensen & Todd. And I’m excited at what could be taking shape for 2009/10/11.
I would like to say that coverage of the trade deadline was handled very poorly by stltoday.com. There were many rumors out there and this site had virtually no coverage. If you are the best website in St. Louis, you should have had at least hourly updates on what was going on. Especially when the Lohse rumor hit. Shame on you. And thanks to sites like mlb.com, si.com and espn.com that actually reported on the trades and rumors. It was a hot topic and you missed out on a lot of potential web traffic yesterday. Ever heard of a blog???
I’d like to compliment the P-D on NOT wading into trade rumors. Hourly updates? On what? The Cards made no deals yesterday. There are countless blogs out there for speculation, and at the end of the day, Lohse is still a Cardinal. (Besides, we all remember what can happen when a rumors like Pujols in the Mitchell Report are reported as news.) I’m certain that if there were any solid leads on anything that the Cardinals had in the works, that the P-D staff would’ve been all over it. Instead, they chose not to bother us over nothing. Thanks to stltoday.com for not turning into the call-in radio show of the internet.
Thanks to the P-D and stltoday for not flooding us with silly rumors about trades. Peple who want nonsense can find lots of it on the cable “sports” shows.
Makes you wonder if the Cards could have had Manny R straight across for, say Ryan Ludwick. I assume that idea never surfaced with Cardinal management though. Could you conjure a batting order of Albert & Manny back to back?
Cards need to give Hernandez a try. We can’t depend on Wellemyer, Looper, and Pinero. Getting Carp back is a plus. Wainwright will be a difference too. Loshe has been a savior. But Wellemyer, Pinero, and Looper all should be relieving. I’m sill hoping Mulder can contribute something this year. Let’s get Hernandez a try and leave the last spot for one of the young guys. We can be a part of the offseason. After all we’re talking about Chicago and and the Brewers. As history has shown us, one of those 2 teams will not make it. St Louis is a good team with the greatest fan base in MLB.
if you’ve ever done any horse trading, you know that in the end it comes down to your gut feeling. so far i like the moves moe HAS made, glauss etc., but i would like to be reassured that he tried for someone like sherrill. a good lefty who has some time left under contract. i never liked the pursuit of fuentes at all. i don’t agree with trading prospects for rental players. i would NEVER have made the sabaithia trade.
Agreed that giving up good prospects for a rental player, even a left-handed reliever, is not a good long-term move. Also, some of Walt’s better moves were made after the “deadline” – maybe Mo has learned a few tricks along that line. Larry Walker cleared waivers before we got him. I’m not saying Mo will do that big of a deal in August, but we could still land a lefty for the bullpen, which is what this team needs more than anything.
I think we needed to add a bat and another left hand reliever and did nothing during the deadline. I dont think Villone is a reliable reliever at this point in his career and after that we have Garcia who has no experience in clutch situations. Franklin and McLellen both have been good at times but we lead the majors in blown saves. The Brewers and Cubs went out and both significantly improved their teams whilc the Cards sat on their hands and saved some bucks. Its disappointing that all we did was dump Reyes for a double A prospect. Sabathia and Hardin stand out as significant trades and once again Cardinal management stands pat with our shaky relievers, trying to get triple A players to make a huge jump.
The idea that the club somehow owes it to the manager or the players to make a trade because they have played hard and have exceeded expectations is bunk.
Whose expectations have they exceeded? Their manager’s? Their own? Why wouldn’t they play hard? Some of them are earning a lot of money to play hard. Others of them are scrapping for a job in the major leagues. It’s difficult to accept any reason they would not play hard.
If it sounds as if I am unappreciative of this team’s performance or effort, that is not the case. I have loved watching the ’08 Cardinals. The rookies have been a thrill a minute. To watch Albert Pujols’ Hall of Fame career progress is truly a privilege. And to see a couple scrappers like Ankiel and Ludwick enjoy all-star caliber seasons makes me proud of them and proud to be a Cardinals fan.
None of that means the club has to mortgage its future to incrementally increase its odds of making the postseason this year. An organization has to have a plan to succeed. The Cardinals’ clearly stated plan was to draft smarter and develop players from within their own system. Maybe it won’t work. Maybe the Cards overvalue their minor league talent. But I have a difficult time believing they should scrap that plan because the players need a “message.”
I’m not so sure the Cardinals need a big bat to make the difference. I think there is a fine line between a big time name ( like Manny Ramirez), and an outfilder like Ank or Luddy that might not draw quite as much attention, but guys that could hit 30 HRs this season. There are plenty of hitters producing around Albert, there just is not that one hitter that changes a lineup the way AP does, and there are not alot “lineup changers” to be had if you are not willing to give up big time prospects.
I don’t even know why the Cards would consider Livan Hernandez. Hernandez’s ERA this season is 5.48. He doesn’t give them the best oppurtunity to win.
I was hoping for a move that would bring them a solid left handed reliever. That did not happpen but if IZZY can come back and close games down, the bullpen will be back to order since those games will be saved. The Cardinals have been in most all of their games. So if they continue to compete as they have all year AND IZZY can close out those save opportunities so that Carp and Waino can be in their starting roles, we will see the Cards in October.
I really Like what I am seeing in Joe Mather. I see him getting even better as his “at bats” add up and he becomes more acquainted with the league.
I think the Cardinal upper management just might have been very smart to not make any moves. I believe they know what they are doing in order to get us back into October for a chance to be champs for a number of years.
I hope they sign Lohse. He is a good pitcher and a good Cardinal. What is a good Cardinal? Someone who wants to be a Cardinal, is a good teammate and of course can do the job. Also, it would be nice to see them add a good bat at second or short this winter if not this August.
Ahhhh Birdland…where birds of a RED feather all get together to BE with “THEE BIRD” DG.
Let me comment on the trades not made and some of the comments I’ve read here today. Starting with the latter:
1) Please stop hoping that mulder will ever be of any use to the cards - ain’t happening
2) TLR ought to be fired for the blatant manipulation he has tried with Mo re: the need for action. JMO of course, he is still a HoF manager.
3) I assume that the prices asked for LH relievers were too much or even Dustin Hoffman while in the Rainman character would have acquired one. I’d rather be without than to overpay for mediocrity.
4) I am seriously tired of seeing the “overachieving” tag on this team. Yes many people have exceeded expectations but that doesn’t mean they are somehow doing more than they are capable of doing. In fact, it seems clear that they are performing to their ability for the most part. Now I know TLR prefers teams with that tag cause it invariably comes with the obligatory media homage that he is doing his best job this year when actually his management of the pitching staff has been one of his worst. Examples abound but I’ll stick to his inconsistent use of Pineiro. Not long ago Joel was dominating the Sawx and lead by 2 with roughly only 70 pitches thrown. Then he gave up a 3B which Ankiel should have caught and TLR removes him for a troubled pen. Of course in his last start, he was getting hit by just about everyone and while Cox took his BP pitcher out after 5, TLR decided Joel could go further despite his near 90 pitch count. If he is consistent in using Joel, we might have another win; if he was guessing more effectively perhaps we have 2 and that is just one example.
5) As for giving up Ludwick for manny that just seems wrong and smacks of fans believing the “overachieving” tag. Ryan has always been seen as talented player who was getting hurt year after year. He has done enough to merit some respect IMO. Now he is no manny at the plate but manny is a couple months and then gone.
Frankly, I’d have considered Manny if I could get him for Ankiel straight up - which might not be accepted by the sawx but would be better on a gain and lost talent basis than what they got. Of course I mainly would have done that so I could send him immediately off to the Rays for David Price. In other words, I would have been even further into the future camp than Mo.
Finally I don’t think there should be a need to take actions for the “morale” of the players either - just try to get the best team you can in the field and let them play to their ability.
Everybody is forgetting that the Cardinals have made some of their best moves AFTER the July 31 deadline. Larry Walker was traded for in August, and the Cards stole Woody Williams from San Diego for a broken-down Ray Lankford. These deals both involved clearing waivers, but they still got done.
Also, the Cardinals’ bullpen didn’t gel in 2006 until the postseason. Todd Worrell was promoted on August 31 in 1985 to become the closer over Jeff Lahti and Ken Dayley. For the Angels, Francisco Rodriguez was promoted right around that time in 2002 when they won the Series.
Everyone needs to chill. Let’s see what we’ve got with Jaime Garcia and hopefully Chris Perez. Give Jason Motte a September call-up, and let’s put some trust in the farm system for a change. Kudos to Mo for standing pat; the only pitcher worth trading for considering contracts would have been Harden (option for 2009), and Mo couldn’t afford to do that in the wake of the Mulder fiasco (not his fault).
verybody is forgetting that the Cardinals have made some of their best moves AFTER the July 31 deadline. Larry Walker was traded for in August, and the Cards stole Woody Williams from San Diego for a broken-down Ray Lankford. These deals both involved clearing waivers, but they still got done.
Also, the Cardinals’ bullpen didn’t gel in 2006 until the postseason. Todd Worrell was promoted on August 31 in 1985 to become the closer over Jeff Lahti and Ken Dayley. For the Angels, Francisco Rodriguez was promoted right around that time in 2002 when they won the Series.
Everyone needs to chill. Let’s see what we’ve got with Jaime Garcia and hopefully Chris Perez. Give Jason Motte a September call-up, and let’s put some trust in the farm system for a change. Kudos to Mo for standing pat; the only pitcher worth trading for considering contracts would have been Harden (option for 2009), and Mo couldn’t afford to do that in the wake of the Mulder fiasco (not his fault).
Cardinals ownership and management since Jocketty left are clueless. Our farm system ISN’T all that great, we can afford to trade one or two of the mediocre players that’ll never make the big leagues for help today. Mo was simply to afraid to pull the trigger on something.
Look at our surplus of outfielders at the major league level - they could have unloaded one of those guys and never missed a beat.