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10.10.2008 9:25 am

Exit Poll: Comeback Cards

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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TOWER GROVE — In hindsight, the Cardinals have realized they based a lot of their expectations of success in 2008, particularly when it came to pitching, on hope.

Hope was inconsistent, at best, and was recently diagnosed with impingement.

The Cardinals expected no fewer than three starting pitchers to return from serious injuries and contribute — at least one in a significant way — to the 2008 team. From Mark Mulder (shoulder), Matt Clement (shoulder) and Chris Carpenter (elbow, then shoulder), the Cardinals got a grand total of seven appearances, four starts, an 0-1 record and 17 innings, 15 1/3 of which were thrown by Carpenter before nerve irritation ended his season.

As the Cardinals reach the offseason, the disabled list remains populated by potential everyday contributors. Outfielders Rick Ankiel and Chris Duncan are recovering from surgeries; rookie Joe Mather is rehabbing after a wrist injury. Carpenter is a concern; Tyler Johnson is an unknown; and Randy Flores feels better after surgery but is an uncertain contract situation, with the team holding his rights at the end of a two-year deal. Josh Kinney (elbow surgery) showed well in his September cameo, but the Cardinals handled him delicately.

Hope apparently has an option for the 2009 season.

Following the theme of previous EXIT POLLS (closer here, encores there): Below is a list of players returning from missing significant time with an injury, any of whom could have the kind of comeback that boosts the Cardinals chances to contend. Whether the Cardinals will bank on these comebacks as they build the roster for 2009 remains to be seen. But coming out of 2008 and the lessons therein, the Cardinals appear less likely to leverage their chances to contend on health, and more on improving depth.

What Cardinal’s 2009 comeback will have the biggest impact?

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Carpenter is key in my mind and he got my vote in this poll. Carpenter needs to make his scheduled starts throughout the year and give us 200+ innings. If he cannot do that we will have more of the same in ‘09 that we had in ‘08′….No ace to lead the staff. If Carpenter’s right wing keeps him caged up, Wainwright, Lohse and Wellemier cannot be expected to carry the cage while waiting for the ace to heal. So, if the ace is not leading the flock, the Red birds will not fly, unless, of course, another ace happens to migrate and integrate into the RED BIRD flock. To win in MLB you have got to have an ace, a solid number two and a number 3 that is close to a two. The LOONG season merits that. So if the Cards take off in the Spring with out an ace, mark my word that they will be flying south in the summer where birds go to live for the winter. Otherwise we just might see RED in October.

— drelboc
12:49 pm October 10th, 2008

The big question with Kinney, I think, is whether or not his arm can survive a full season, and be relied upon to give the Cards 40 something apperances, without his elbow flaring up and giving him issues. But from what he showed in his 7 innings in 2008 he looked good. Eight K’ed in 7 innings, only one walk, no runs allowed… the numbers were impressive in his limited time. Can he give the Cards solid innings from the bullpen over the course of a 162 game season? Whats a realistic expectation for Kinney?

Considering what we saw with Carp and Mulder this season, whats to say the same isn’t to happen with Kinney and Tyler Johnson? Both coming of serious surgeries. I think the Cards have to go out and find a LHRP. DG, whats on the market as far LHRP? What about George Sherrill, could he fill the void?

— emc2013
1:10 pm October 10th, 2008

Sure, Sherrill would fill the need, but what are you going to send to Baltimore to pry the All-Star out of the O’s bullpen? Some free-agent lefties that are out there include: Fuentes, Guardado, Affeldt, Beimel, maybe Ambree (team option), Villone and Shouse.

— Derrick Goold
1:48 pm October 10th, 2008

Who would you send to Baltimore? I doubt that the O’s would be interested in Bryan Anderson, considering that they already have a young catcher in Matt Wieters.

I think Jeremy Affeldt would be a great pickup. He is 29 years old, and struckout 80 in 78.1 innings pitched. I’d think he’d be a real possibility as far as a reasonable amount of money. Thanks for the list of free agent LHRP, DG…

— emc2013
3:57 pm October 10th, 2008

emc2013….nice post. After the team shoved optimism down our throats regarding Mulder, Clement and Carpenter returning from injuries, I’ve concluded that the Cardinals need to either acquire more arms through FA or trade. The trade route is a bit uncomfortable. Are we going to start emptying the farm system again? If we are going to make a trade at all, I’d rather see us get an impact middle infielder.

— Cardsballhawk
4:01 pm October 10th, 2008

TRICK QUESTION!!

Of course the answer is Carpenter - by a long, long shot - but the implicit assumption is that Carpenter WILL come back.

WHEN in 2009 is another assumption that has to be made.

Frankly, without Carp coming back, fairly early in the season, the other guys making it back at various levels of productivity won’t be the difference between making the playoffs or not making the playoffs.

— Joepa
9:42 am October 12th, 2008

My reason for voting for Kinney is that I thought his season long consistency out of the bull pen next year could well make a big improvement on the huge number of relief losses and/or missed save opportunities.

— Gary
7:16 pm October 13th, 2008