We all know that triples are the most important and underrated stat in baseball. Here were the NL rankings for this year.

Triples
Reyes-NYM 19
Drew-ARI 11
Lewis-SFG 11
Rollins-PHI 9
Victorino-PHI 8
Braun-MIL 7
Phillips-CIN 7
Velez-SFG 7
Weeks-MIL 7
Young-ARI 7

Pujols had a big fat ZERO triples this year. Jason Bay had two triples, which mathematically is infinitely more than 0, but just to be nice I’ll say that proves Bay is only twice as good as Pujols. Even David Ortiz had one, which must have been terribly exciting for the guys at SportsCenter.

Technically, Soriano and A-Rod had zero triples, too, but that’s not their fault. They were denied triples by Cowtown bias against major markets. Also, they had more than enough home runs and strikeouts to make up for their lack of triples.

LOL, Wade your WILLFUL ignorance (either that or blatant bias) is amusing.

So now you want to contend ”And in the late innings of close games, forget about him. He might as well not even be in the line up.” Remember earlier in this thread when you praised Ortiz as being ”clutch”? They do keep and break out stats for ”clutch stats” want to see some comparisons?

how about close & late-career (7th inning or later with team tied, ahead by one or tying run on deck)
Ortiz .279/.382/.564/946 (very nice)
Pujols .315/.440/.615/1.055 (a little nicer)

some other players you mentioned
Jason Bay .232/.351/.438/.790
Soriano .275/.338/.449/.787
Manny .276/.410/.491/.901
A-Rod .279/.375/.530/.905
H Ramirez .319/.409/.524/.933
Jose Reyes .276/.347/.384/.731
D Lee .300/.398/.504/.902
Crawford .254/.301/.371/.672
Hamilton .252/.355/.457/.812
Howard .247/.394/.521/.915
Wright .307/.407/.483/.890
Pedroia .328/.376/.471/.847
Youklis .263/.378/.436/.815
Teixeira .282/.379/.555/.933
Vlad .325/.420/.547/.967

hmmm, the BEST OPS of all those players that YOU said were ”as good or better”, the ONLY .600+ SLG% and one of the best batting averages yet ”might as well not even be in the line up”?????

salt with your crow Wade?

Craig we all know by now that you are a HUGE Pujols fan and I can not help but to feel that because of that it is clouding your view of other players who are equally as good if not better than Pujols.

So Wade do you still stand behind your claim regarding Pujols in the late innings of close games, that he should not even be in the lineup? It was YOU who made that claim did you not? If you truly beleive that to be true, why do you not make even a token effort to defend your claim?

Wade, interesting choice to say that someone else’s view is “clouded” The textbook definition of a clouded view is someone who stubbornly holds onto a position in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Those people also shy away from defending their view. If you beleive so strongly that what you say is true, why would you repeatedly decline to provide support for your view?

Wade-
you say that all these cardinals fans are biased in pujols’s favor that it clouds their view of other players. well maybe your judgement is clouded because your team fails you every year and pujols is generally more than effective against you (i only say more than effective because i don’t have the specific numbers to prove my point but it is safe to say that he does well against you since that is the trend against all most of baseball). are you so ignorant that you continue to ignore all the evidence provided to you in other post while failing to provide evidence of your own to prove your point? what kind of intelligent human being does that unless you’re just arguing just for the sake of arguing. before you make another comment, make sure you can back it up with evidence so that you don’t continue to make yourself look so stupid.

Wade, to a true baseball fan your remark is ridiculous. A true fan of baseball loves the game and appreciates all the landmark events that happen, no matter what teams, what players. You appreciate the competition, the memories and you pay homage to those deserving your respect. Albert Pujols is on his way to setting his name in history, because he is a complete player and he continually sets his standards high and meets unbelievable statistics every year. What he is doing is remarkable and is on the level of many great players of the past. He loves the game, he loves his team, he has more heart than anyone I have ever watched in my 54 years on this earth.

I dont understand why you all think that I am hating on Pujols. I understand that he is a very good player, I just feel however that it is pre mature to consider him one of the best ever, and I also feel there are many players right now who are equally as good if not better.

Fuhrig and all of you others, that goes for you,too.

WSW,

I always warn people that sarcasm is the hardest thing to convey in writing, and I should have taken my own advice. I hate to parse my own comedy, but here goes.

“We all know that triples are the most important and underrated stat in baseball.”
Aside from the patent stupidity of that assertion, notice that if we all know triples are the most important stat in baseball, how could they also be underrated?

Pujols had ZERO triples this year. Who cares? It’s just about the only hitting stat where he trailed Jason Bay. Two triples to none makes Bay twice as good? Did you think anyone could seriously make that argument, even in the context of The Wader?

The rest of it was equally preposterous. I even worked in a Cowtown reference, if you recall Jeffrey “Flap Down” Leonard from the ‘87 NLCS. Sorry if I was too subtle.