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10.15.2008 2:13 pm

The St. Louis Cardinals Rushmore Project

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TOWER GROVE — I watched Bob Costas’ interview with Willie Mays and Hank Aaron the other day, and while the whole of the interview is brilliant there was a line from it I couldn’t shake. Costas said if there were a Mt. Rushmore for baseball — and why isn’t there, already? — Mays and Aaron would both be on it. Presumably Babe Ruth would be riding shotgun.

That leaves a fourth, the Teddy Roosevelt spot.

Does Teddy Ballgame fit? Stan the Man? What about Cy Young, Barry Bonds or, from sheer impact on the game, Judge Kenesaw Mountain Landis or Marvin Miller? For every one you settle on, three more bubble-up as possibilities.

The question has followed me for a few days, creeping in while I’m watching the ALCS. The upstart Tampa Bay Rays’ Rushmore would be … certainly Carl Crawford, definitely Joe Maddon (imagine those Buddy Holly glasses carved out of stone), maybe Evan Longoria or Carlos Pena and what about Danys Baez? I’m working on an all-time 40-man roster from a fusion of Colorado Rockies’ and Arizona Diamondbacks’ histories (more on that later this week), and the Rushmore Question infiltrated that thought process. The Rockies Rushmore: Larry Walker, Todd Helton, Andres Galarraga and Eric Young, for his opening-day homer, or … Ryan Turner, for what he respresented if not how he did.

A Redbird Rushmore? Four Cardinals and Hall of Famers.

A Redbird Rushmore? Four Cardinals and Hall of Famers.

The St. Louis Cardinals’ Rushmore …

Well, that’s the purpose for this blog.

Back in May 2004, tied to the departure of Kurt Warner from the Rams, The Post-Dispatch attempted to put together a St. Louis Sports Rushmore. A poll was conducted online. Articles written. An illustration drawn.

The STL Rushmore was: Stan Musial, Bob Gibson, Warner and Mark McGwire. That monument might not be as permanent as imagine. Columnist Bernie Miklasz argued that any STL Sports Rushmore must include Bob Pettit. P-D writer Dan O’Neill captured the plight of the project:

The Mount Rushmore theme begs for specificity and direction. As defined by the American Heritage Dictionary, the word “icon,” used in this context, pertains to “one who is the object of great attention and devotion; an idol.” The explanation leaves plenty of room for interpretation.

That is precisely what makes it so fun to throw around.

… Another way to construct the foursome — and create more debate — would be to ask for the four “most popular” players in St. Louis sports history. The answer is a little more subjective, the list not as burdensome. Musial makes every list, unless it excludes icons of Polish descent. You could make a case for Warner, less so for McGwire. Ozzie Smith and Brett Hull, again, are strong.

But names like Willie McGee, Red Schoendienst, Jackie Smith, and Whitey Herzog deserve serious airtime. Why, you might even cast a write-in vote for John Mabry.

Coming up with one for Major League Baseball is a Sisyphean task. I came upon a few sites that have taken polls — Ruth is running away with a spot, of course. It would have to be constructed in stages.

With the blog’s new power of polls, there’s the technology to try and the offseason offers the time to

Four Hall of Famers and the current Franchise Player

Four Hall of Famers and the current Franchise Player

experiment. Found a few attempts out there to put a Cardinals Rushmore together. Most, like the P-D’s Rushmore, starts with Musial and the consensus scatters from there. (For example, I mentioned it on the Bird Land@Facebook page and got some excellent suggestions; some surprising omissions, too.)

So, let’s start. Below is a list of 15 people from Cardinals history, and you can select four for a Cardinals Rushmore. The floor is open for additions, too. If, for example, you think Enos Slaughter, Dizzy Dean or Ken Boyer deserve a spot on the cliff’s wall, then make the case in the comments. The poll below isn’t by any means set in, um, stone. There is a good argument to be made for Bing Devine.

If nothing else, this poll will distill the discussion and serve as a good conversation starter …

A Cardinals Rushmore (Choose 4 People)

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Scratch that. Misunderstood the dictionary entry. Quechua is a linguistic family. Duh! So “El Puma” it should be.

— EJ Rotert
11:09 am October 16th, 2008

Hornsby, it should be noted, also managed the team to its first World Series championship. He returned in 1925 to replace Branch Rickey as manager, and in 1926 was there to put in Grover “Old Pete” Alexander and strike out Tony Lazzeri and so on and so on …

— Derrick Goold
11:18 am October 16th, 2008

Maybe it would be “La Puma.” Sheesh. I don’t know. They waterboarded me in college to convince me to take Spanish. I’m going back to bed…

— EJ Rotert
11:19 am October 16th, 2008

It’s hard to exclude Jack Buck, the man who connected us with almost every person on that list.

I think we have to wait on Pujols. He probably will be one of the best Cardinals ever (is certainly on pace to be), but his last chapters have yet to be written (see Mark McGwire).

Unfortunately, our memory’s unfair weight on the recent will keep us from truly appreciating what Hornsby, Slaughter, and other Cardinals accomplished in early Cardinal history.

— Adam Erwin
11:20 am October 16th, 2008

EJ, I appreciate the effort.

— Derrick Goold
11:22 am October 16th, 2008

1. Stan Musial — The best player the Cardinals ever produced.
2. Bob Gibson — The best pitcher, and most dominate force, the Cardinals have ever produced.
3. Jack Buck — Still the voice of the Cardinals for most of Cardinal nation.
4. August A. Busch, Jr. — With out him, we are talking about the Detroit Cardinals. The brewery and the ballclub are still linked 13 years after they sold the team.

— Jeff B.
11:23 am October 16th, 2008

Debbie… No way Edmonds makes it up there — nowhere close. Not compared to the other options. Now, if there were a Mt. Rushmore for Cardinals who swung for the fence when another player was on second base and we needed only one run to tie the game up… You know, when a simple single would likely drive in that run… Well, then Edmonds would get my first vote.

— EJ Rotert
11:26 am October 16th, 2008

The fourth on the overall Mt. Rushmore for baseball should be Robinson.

— EJ Rotert
11:31 am October 16th, 2008

Stan Musial, Bob Gibson, Jack Buck and Red Schoendienst…. not a pick because of popularity, but because they are all icons in St. Louis baseball.

— birdsonabat
11:35 am October 16th, 2008

I went with Stan & Bob, obviously, but went the other way with my 2 other picks. I went with Jack Buck and August A. Busch, Jr. The 2 other people, not on the field, that had arguably the longest/largest impact on ‘Cardinal Baseball’ (other than the late Mr. Kissell, that is).

— Sam
11:41 am October 16th, 2008

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