The St. Louis Cardinals Rushmore Project
TOWER GROVE — I watched Bob Costas’ interview with Willie Mays and Hank Aaron the other day, and while the whole of the interview is brilliant there was a line from it I couldn’t shake. Costas said if there were a Mt. Rushmore for baseball — and why isn’t there, already? — Mays and Aaron would both be on it. Presumably Babe Ruth would be riding shotgun.
That leaves a fourth, the Teddy Roosevelt spot.
Does Teddy Ballgame fit? Stan the Man? What about Cy Young, Barry Bonds or, from sheer impact on the game, Judge Kenesaw Mountain Landis or Marvin Miller? For every one you settle on, three more bubble-up as possibilities.
The question has followed me for a few days, creeping in while I’m watching the ALCS. The upstart Tampa Bay Rays’ Rushmore would be … certainly Carl Crawford, definitely Joe Maddon (imagine those Buddy Holly glasses carved out of stone), maybe Evan Longoria or Carlos Pena and what about Danys Baez? I’m working on an all-time 40-man roster from a fusion of Colorado Rockies’ and Arizona Diamondbacks’ histories (more on that later this week), and the Rushmore Question infiltrated that thought process. The Rockies Rushmore: Larry Walker, Todd Helton, Andres Galarraga and Eric Young, for his opening-day homer, or … Ryan Turner, for what he respresented if not how he did.

A Redbird Rushmore? Four Cardinals and Hall of Famers.
The St. Louis Cardinals’ Rushmore …
Well, that’s the purpose for this blog.
Back in May 2004, tied to the departure of Kurt Warner from the Rams, The Post-Dispatch attempted to put together a St. Louis Sports Rushmore. A poll was conducted online. Articles written. An illustration drawn.
The STL Rushmore was: Stan Musial, Bob Gibson, Warner and Mark McGwire. That monument might not be as permanent as imagine. Columnist Bernie Miklasz argued that any STL Sports Rushmore must include Bob Pettit. P-D writer Dan O’Neill captured the plight of the project:
The Mount Rushmore theme begs for specificity and direction. As defined by the American Heritage Dictionary, the word “icon,” used in this context, pertains to “one who is the object of great attention and devotion; an idol.” The explanation leaves plenty of room for interpretation.
That is precisely what makes it so fun to throw around.
… Another way to construct the foursome — and create more debate — would be to ask for the four “most popular” players in St. Louis sports history. The answer is a little more subjective, the list not as burdensome. Musial makes every list, unless it excludes icons of Polish descent. You could make a case for Warner, less so for McGwire. Ozzie Smith and Brett Hull, again, are strong.
But names like Willie McGee, Red Schoendienst, Jackie Smith, and Whitey Herzog deserve serious airtime. Why, you might even cast a write-in vote for John Mabry.
Coming up with one for Major League Baseball is a Sisyphean task. I came upon a few sites that have taken polls — Ruth is running away with a spot, of course. It would have to be constructed in stages.
With the blog’s new power of polls, there’s the technology to try and the offseason offers the time to

Four Hall of Famers and the current Franchise Player
experiment. Found a few attempts out there to put a Cardinals Rushmore together. Most, like the P-D’s Rushmore, starts with Musial and the consensus scatters from there. (For example, I mentioned it on the Bird Land@Facebook page and got some excellent suggestions; some surprising omissions, too.)
So, let’s start. Below is a list of 15 people from Cardinals history, and you can select four for a Cardinals Rushmore. The floor is open for additions, too. If, for example, you think Enos Slaughter, Dizzy Dean or Ken Boyer deserve a spot on the cliff’s wall, then make the case in the comments. The poll below isn’t by any means set in, um, stone. There is a good argument to be made for Bing Devine.
If nothing else, this poll will distill the discussion and serve as a good conversation starter …
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Derrick Goold said he was going to Mizzou for capital-J journalism, but after growing up in the Time Zone Baseball Forgot he was really drawn to MU sitting between two major-league cities. Goold joined the Post-Dispatch in 2001 after working for The Times-Picayune and Rocky Mountain News, covering sports from LSU to NHL and every level of baseball in between.
I think McGwire needs to be on this list. His accomplishments may be in question but his profound impacts on the organization are irrefutable. The Cards started drawing 3 million a season when Mac was in town. Thus, raising revenue and leading to the ability to make long term deals for Rolen, Edmonds, Pujols, etc.. Also, Mac raised this club from a small market team into the national spotlight. Yes, he may have used steroids (emphasis on may because nothing is conclusive) but there is no doubt that the organization is not where it is today without Mark McGwire.
where’s dizzy dean?
Musial is the greatest Cardinal so far. That’s easy. Gibson is the greatest Cardinal pitcher ever. Still easy. Rickey was the greatest innovator in baseball history. He brought the minor leagues into the picture. Buck was the face/voice of the franchise for so long, it is hard to think of the Cardinals without thinking of him. It is difficult to leave off Brock and Hornsby.
I like the idea of having only players to vote on. On that note, I went with Musial, Gibson, Smith, and Pujols.
And, on the Rockies “Mt. Rushmore”, I would’ve taken Dante Bichette over Eric Young.
THEY SHOULD ADD MORE HEADS TO THIS RUSHMORE, BECAUSE THERE ARE LOT OF GREAT PLAYER’S. BUT FOR SURE IT WOULD BE STAN MUSIAL AND ALBERT PUJOLS….
Grant,
An interesting argument for McGwire. For the same reasons that, say, Barry Bonds would be on MLB’s Rushmore. He was the face of the game, the face of change, etc., etc. … and the mitigating circumstances are reasons FOR his inclusion, not the case for his exclusion.
dg
A major ommission from your list - “The Captain’ - Ken Boyer
Matty Mo! circa 2001. Great pitcher before his shoulder problems, and a really gutsy pitcher even after he started getting hurt.
For the post stating that TLR has more playoff appearances then Whitey. Please note - TLR managed in a THREE Division/Wild Card playoff - Whitey managed in a 2 division NO Wildcard and went to the WS every time they were in the playoffs. 3 for 3 - AND should have went in 81 with the best overall record in the east. In a 3 division system - Cards have won the Central with 88 - 83 wins - which would have gotten the 80 cards NOWHERE in the NL EAST (METS/PHILLIES). The Central has also been won since 94 with these number of wins
2007 - 85
2006 - 83
2003 - 88
1997 - 84
1996 - 88
1995 - 85
Stan and Gibby are no-brainers. Pujols will be there, but has to finish the second half of his career as he started it. I love Whitey and TLR, but can’t put a manager on Rushmore. Same logic applies to Jack Buck. So, which two players join 6 and 45 — Hornsby, Brock, or Ozzie? For now, give me Hornsby and Brock.