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10.15.2008 2:13 pm

The St. Louis Cardinals Rushmore Project

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TOWER GROVE — I watched Bob Costas’ interview with Willie Mays and Hank Aaron the other day, and while the whole of the interview is brilliant there was a line from it I couldn’t shake. Costas said if there were a Mt. Rushmore for baseball — and why isn’t there, already? — Mays and Aaron would both be on it. Presumably Babe Ruth would be riding shotgun.

That leaves a fourth, the Teddy Roosevelt spot.

Does Teddy Ballgame fit? Stan the Man? What about Cy Young, Barry Bonds or, from sheer impact on the game, Judge Kenesaw Mountain Landis or Marvin Miller? For every one you settle on, three more bubble-up as possibilities.

The question has followed me for a few days, creeping in while I’m watching the ALCS. The upstart Tampa Bay Rays’ Rushmore would be … certainly Carl Crawford, definitely Joe Maddon (imagine those Buddy Holly glasses carved out of stone), maybe Evan Longoria or Carlos Pena and what about Danys Baez? I’m working on an all-time 40-man roster from a fusion of Colorado Rockies’ and Arizona Diamondbacks’ histories (more on that later this week), and the Rushmore Question infiltrated that thought process. The Rockies Rushmore: Larry Walker, Todd Helton, Andres Galarraga and Eric Young, for his opening-day homer, or … Ryan Turner, for what he respresented if not how he did.

A Redbird Rushmore? Four Cardinals and Hall of Famers.

A Redbird Rushmore? Four Cardinals and Hall of Famers.

The St. Louis Cardinals’ Rushmore …

Well, that’s the purpose for this blog.

Back in May 2004, tied to the departure of Kurt Warner from the Rams, The Post-Dispatch attempted to put together a St. Louis Sports Rushmore. A poll was conducted online. Articles written. An illustration drawn.

The STL Rushmore was: Stan Musial, Bob Gibson, Warner and Mark McGwire. That monument might not be as permanent as imagine. Columnist Bernie Miklasz argued that any STL Sports Rushmore must include Bob Pettit. P-D writer Dan O’Neill captured the plight of the project:

The Mount Rushmore theme begs for specificity and direction. As defined by the American Heritage Dictionary, the word “icon,” used in this context, pertains to “one who is the object of great attention and devotion; an idol.” The explanation leaves plenty of room for interpretation.

That is precisely what makes it so fun to throw around.

… Another way to construct the foursome — and create more debate — would be to ask for the four “most popular” players in St. Louis sports history. The answer is a little more subjective, the list not as burdensome. Musial makes every list, unless it excludes icons of Polish descent. You could make a case for Warner, less so for McGwire. Ozzie Smith and Brett Hull, again, are strong.

But names like Willie McGee, Red Schoendienst, Jackie Smith, and Whitey Herzog deserve serious airtime. Why, you might even cast a write-in vote for John Mabry.

Coming up with one for Major League Baseball is a Sisyphean task. I came upon a few sites that have taken polls — Ruth is running away with a spot, of course. It would have to be constructed in stages.

With the blog’s new power of polls, there’s the technology to try and the offseason offers the time to

Four Hall of Famers and the current Franchise Player

Four Hall of Famers and the current Franchise Player

experiment. Found a few attempts out there to put a Cardinals Rushmore together. Most, like the P-D’s Rushmore, starts with Musial and the consensus scatters from there. (For example, I mentioned it on the Bird Land@Facebook page and got some excellent suggestions; some surprising omissions, too.)

So, let’s start. Below is a list of 15 people from Cardinals history, and you can select four for a Cardinals Rushmore. The floor is open for additions, too. If, for example, you think Enos Slaughter, Dizzy Dean or Ken Boyer deserve a spot on the cliff’s wall, then make the case in the comments. The poll below isn’t by any means set in, um, stone. There is a good argument to be made for Bing Devine.

If nothing else, this poll will distill the discussion and serve as a good conversation starter …

A Cardinals Rushmore (Choose 4 People)

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Man - this is tough. Stan is easy. I have to include Jack as the steady voice all those years - good years and bad. Albert has the best 8 yrs ever to start a career and is an excellent role model. The last one I am torn between Rogers and Bob. I will go with Rogers because he was the first great Cardinal — without him, maybe the team moves out of StL before all the great traditions (of course, you could say the same about Branch Rickey).

— Mike
9:58 am October 16th, 2008

Joe Medwick should have serious consideration. The last national league player to win the triple crown. Plus the Cardinals should not retire any more numbers until they retire #7 to honor Medwick.

— Dennis
10:06 am October 16th, 2008

If you are looking at who had the greatest impact on the game, then this monument can’t exclude Branch Rickey whose contributions to baseball as a whole can’t be underestemated.

— mike
10:09 am October 16th, 2008

Not much of a conversationalist, are you, JJM?

— whatthetlr?
10:10 am October 16th, 2008

Jack Buck is the reason I love Cardinal baseball more than any player. It didn’t matter what era or team, you always knew Jack would be there to lead you through the game. He taught me baseball, burned it in to my mind. No one else on this list will have their coffin rest on the field for us to pay our respects. He didn’t hit .300 or win the Series or even shag a flyball. He didn’t have to, he was THE Cardinals.

— StL Wichita
10:11 am October 16th, 2008

I don’t see how you can leave out Dizzy Dean.

— Joseph Rabushka
10:15 am October 16th, 2008

Hornsby, Brock, Musial, and Gibson with Dizzy Dean, Frankie Frisch, Pujols and Ozzie on the other side of the mountain.

— brad
10:19 am October 16th, 2008

Cardinal greatness begins with Rogers Hornsby. Then of course you have to include Stan, Bob, and Albert, IMHO.

— Dan
10:21 am October 16th, 2008

This is great fun.

I choose The Man first. What he did during his playing career and has done since as an ambassador for Cardinal baseball.

Hornsby is my second choice. He is, in my mind, the best representative of the early years of Cardinal Baseball.

I grew up outside of the St. Louis area, my dad was in the service, and only came to a game once every few years. For me Jack Buck was the Cardinals. He made me like was in the stadium with the team and all the fans.

Finally, I voted for Pujols. Albert is the present and future of this team. For what he does both on and off the field.

My first Cards team was the late 60’s team and it pains me not to include Gibby and Sweet Loy. Can we have 6 images on our monument. Just because the original has 4, do we have to follow suit?

— b_hern39
10:23 am October 16th, 2008

That’s a tough choice. You’ve got to pick Stan The Man and Jack Buck is a must as well. Pujols has to be in there and how can you pass up the manager with the most wins as a Cardinal, Tony La Russa?

Those are my picks.

— tjtull
10:27 am October 16th, 2008

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