Cardinals’ Top 30 Prospects: Community Poll
TOWER GROVE — With colorful leaves, crisp temps and trade talk in the air, ’tis the season to talk Top 30 — the St. Louis Cardinals Top 30 prospects that is. Over the past month, I’ve been cranking through the scouting comments and reporting on the performances of the Cardinals minor leaguers to piece together a Top 30 for Baseball America.
This much is obvious: For the third consecutive year (and likely last year) Colby Rasmus is No. 1.
After that, well it gets a little trickier.
Last year, using the message baords, we attempted to do the first annual Cards Talk Community Top 30. This year, the blog’s new tool — those powerful and popular polls — allow us to do the Community Top 30 in here.
Chris Perez is the incumbent No. 2 prospect, but he could get some serious challenge this year from first-round pick Brett Wallace, who is now cranking in the Arizona Fall League, and, in some corners, resurgent prospect Daryl Jones. Perez and Jason Motte are still eligible for consideration on this year’s Top 30. Perez just missed pitching enough innings (50) to throw his way off the list. Any Top 30 is going to have to include those three players. Perhaps even in the Top 10. The Cardinals internally consider all three top-flight prospects, and the two relievers have certainly come up in trade conversation with other teams — and the interest of other teams is the true gauge of any prospect and minor-league system.
Adapting the Community Top 30 to a series of poll-based blog entries might take some experimenting. Please be patient. So we’ll start with two polls: Picking the No. 2 prospect, and selecting the players who are candidates for Nos. 3-5. Before reaching the polls, here are two resources to check:
- The Baseball America 2008 Top 30 revisited, complete with links to statistics.
- The BA Top 30 revisited, with discussion of 2009 breakout players.
- BA draft report (unfortunately, subscription required)
- Future Redbirds, a Web site with tons of info about the performance of prospects.
That should give you a good start on the performance and reputation of dozens of prospects. Plenty to get the ball rolling with the Community selection for the No. 2 prospect in the Cardinals’ system.
If you have a write-in candidate for No. 2, please state the name and make your case in the comments below. With that decided, below is a list of the prospects that could rank Nos. 3, 4 or 5. The incumbent Top 5 are: 1. Rasmus; 2. Perez; 3. Bryan Anderson, C; 4. Brian Barton, OF; 5. Jaime Garcia, LHP. Barton is no longer eligible after spending most of the season with the major-league club, and Garcia is an uncertain top-five pick because he’ll miss most of 2009 after needing Tommy John surgery.
That leaves the floor open for nominations.
The names below are culled from the list of No. 2 candidate above, last year’s top 15, the list of top performances in the minors this season and intriguing 2008 draft picks. Please pick the three you believe should get Top-Five consideration (not including the guy you picked No. 2, please). From this list will emerge the finalists for those three spots, and then we’ll move on from there.
Suggestions are always welcome.
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Additional minor-league note: Topps, the baseball cards manufacturer, named this week its minor-league players of the year and Cardinals’ Curt Smith, a 2008 draft pick, was honored with the Topps award for the Appalachian League. The first baseman, out of the University of Maine, hit .378 with 49 RBIs at the shorts-season rookie-level league. … Conversation about the Top 30 and the outfielders that could/should be traded continues at the Bird Land @ Facebook group.
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Derrick Goold said he was going to Mizzou for capital-J journalism, but after growing up in the Time Zone Baseball Forgot he was really drawn to MU sitting between two major-league cities. Goold joined the Post-Dispatch in 2001 after working for The Times-Picayune and Rocky Mountain News, covering sports from LSU to NHL and every level of baseball in between.
of course we know Jason Motte throws hard, I think he has the moxy that it takes to be a big-league closer. Not that he is ready to be closer yet, but he was successfull in most of the situations with the big league club in 2008. He fit in well with Tony and Dunc too. I would want to keep him over players from other positions where the organization has more depth. he will be better than Perez
What’s up with Brad Thompson? I assume he’s out of the picture in St. Louis, given how little I’ve heard about him.
Cardinals farm system is average it best. I dont see any of these players turning into anything special. I am a Pirates fan and we have one of the best farm systems in baseball. With that being said it is going to be difficult for the Cardinals to trade for some of the big name players that there fans want so badly.
Thoughts on Brian Barton: He’s likely to spend the season at AAA, so it’s ironic that he’s excluded from prospect consideration … unless that Memphis assumption has changed. There’s be trade talk about Ankiel, Ludwick and Rasmus. Is Barton enough of a prospect to interest other teams at all?
Wade starts a row. Again.
a row???
Everyone knows the Cardinals have a poor farm system. Even most of there fans know it. I believe that they were ranked 27th last year our of every major league team.
If Motte is ever going to develop into a strong threat out of the bullpen then he can’t just throw FBs. I don’t care how much velocity he can put on them. If that is all major leaguers see over the course of a season, then Motte will be eaten alive out there.
Perez was really impressive at times. He is a young closer, and he is going to have his ups and downs, but I think he starting to realize that it takes more than just a good FB to dominant against MLB hitters. He seemed like maybe he was starting to get more comfortable towards the end of the season. I saw a him throw the changeup and use the slider a bit more.
Intersting question about how much of a trade piece Barton really is. There were points where he looked really locked in at the plate during 2008. He would take walk, and advance runners, and then there were points in the year where he’d swing at stuff out of the zone and would just look really uncomfortable at the plate.
Could he develop into a 5th OFer? He was injured towards the end of the season, and I didn’t get to see him enough to judge where he stands, as far as his future with the Cards. I’d say keep him at Memphis, call him up if needed to the Cards, and let’s find out what sort of player he is. Besides, I don’t think he is all that much of a potential trading piece.
The Cards farm system is undoubtedly in the top half of MLB at this point. Some might argue it even higher. That is a fact Wade.
“The Cards farm system is undoubtedly in the top half of MLB at this point. Some might argue it even higher. That is a fact Wade.”
proof?
Kevin Patterson is # prospect. Has superstar written all over.