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11.27.2008 12:50 pm

The St. Louis Cardinals Mount Rushmore

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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TOWER GROVE — After more than 8,500 votes, 173 comments, dozens of spin-off threads, a few lively exchanges over at the Facebook page, and the hours of one talented Post-Dispatch illustrator, it is time to unveil the monument that you helped chisel:

The St. Louis Cardinals Mount Rushmore.

Back during the limbo between playoff series, Bird Land asked the simple question: What four members from Cardinals’ history would you carve into a Mount Rushmore of the franchise? We called it The Rushmore Project. There were no rules, though some demanded that it be kept to players only. There were no guidelines as far as time served, though some insisted that Albert Pujols not yet being eligible for the Hall of Fame should mean he not yet be eligible for Mount Cardsmore as well.

From Stan Musial to George Kissell to Branch Rickey — there was only a list of 15 candidates and the invitation to write in more. Dizzy Dean and Mike Shannon, who should have been No. 16, gained the most write-in votes.

Tom Borgman, a designer and graphic illustrator at the P-D, took the results of the poll, and crafted a photo illustration of what the four winners would look like, blasted into the rock of Rushmore. As a Thanksgiving Weekend treat for Bird Land readers, here is the debut of Bird Land’s Cardsmore:

The St. Louis Cardinals Mount Rushmore

Fab Four: The St. Louis Cardinals Mount Rushmore (illustration by Tom Borgman)

A total of 8,552 people voted, at least check, on the Rushmore Project, and each of the four faces above received at least 40 percent of the vote. Three of the players featured above are Hall of Famers, and the third is well on his way after just winning the second MVP of his career. Musial, of course, led the way, with 8,274 votes, begging the question who were the 3 percent of voters who left him off? Bob Gibson received 7,728 votes (90 percent). In a show of strength from the current generation of Cards Nation, Pujols received 5,087 votes (59 percent), and Ozzie Smith received 3,523 votes (41 percent).

It can be argued that the Cardinals’ Rushmore above features the franchise’s best player, best pitcher, best hitter and best fielder — the four very definitions of the disciplines it takes to play baseball.

Hall of Famers Lou Brock (34 percent), Jack Buck (32 percent), Rogers Hornsby (21 percent) and Red Schoendienst (11 percent) completed the top eight.

The Real Rushmore (Washington, Jefferson, Roosevelt, Lincoln)

The Real Rushmore (Washington, Jefferson, Roosevelt, Lincoln)

With the exception of Mr. Buck, players did the best in the poll, as many voters wrestled with the definition of who belongs on a Rushmore. The most comment approach suggested that only Presidents appear on the real Mount Rushmore, so only players should appear on the Cardinals Rushmore. There’s no Ben Franklin carved into South Dakota, so why should there be a Branch Rickey carved into the Cardinals? Rickey, who helped build the Cardinals from approving the Redbird logo to establishing a farm system to even encouraging the growth of The Knothole Gang, received 164 votes. George Kissell who coached generations of Cardinal received 150 votes. Current manager Tony La Russa received 193 votes, and former owner August A. Busch Jr. received the most of any non-player save Mr. Buck.

The bios of the four members of Cardsmore (from Washington to Lincoln):

After the press conference to introduce Pujols as this year’s National League MVP, several of us — including Maurice Drummond of Fox 2 and P-D columnist Bryan Burwell — sat in the media room and talked about how Pujols has clearly become the face of the franchise. That spawned the question of who is “Mr. Cardinal”? There are really only a handful of candidates. For his play and his personality and his presence still in the public eye, Musial is the obvious answer. Schoendienst has a claim because he still wears the uniform before home games, is a annual visitor and attraction at spring training and was both a Hall of Fame player and one of the franchise’s winningest managers. Now, it’s Pujols. On TV. In video games. Featured in ads. On the field.

The vote above probably gives us the answer.

It certainly identified the cardinal Cardinals.

Let the debate resume once the turkey settles.

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51 comments

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I agree with those who complained that Hornsby was left out of the top 4. Hornsby was probably the best player to ever play for the Cards, and he led the team to its first World Series Championship as both star player and manager. His absence shows that Cardinal fans lack knowledge of their favorite team’s history.

A reasonable top four might be Musial, Hornsby, Pujols and Gibson.

— Red Bird
10:31 am November 28th, 2008

Pujols is great and will be a HOF’er wearing the STL cap. Brock should have been on the MT in his place though.

— kawidave
10:33 am November 28th, 2008

Really? The Wizard over Hornsby? While the 85 NLCS walkoff (more notably Buck’s instructions to, “go crazy, folks! Go crazy!”) still gives me chills, Hornsby deserves a spot on our imaginary monument. Musial naturally makes it, Gibson, of course (they had to lower the mound because of him!) Pujols smashes prominent and obscure records alike everytime the man comes in contact with a baseball. What is most troubling, is the fact that none of these articles make mention of Joe Medwick. C’mon people, ten time all-star, MVP, triple crown winner, and a .324 lifetime batting average…that, to me, also warrants a spot among our illustrious.

— Jeff
10:34 am November 28th, 2008

It’s interesting the four who made it are all still alive. I must agree, Hornsby should be in Roosevelt’s spot. Cool poll and deptiction though! Don’t know where I was during the balloting? - Probably still dazed from the most recent national poll results! I say start chiseling this into the outfield wall or maybe the depressed section on I-70. kudos!

— TexasT
10:52 am November 28th, 2008

I’m sure Pujols will eventually deserve to be up there, but it’s too early to include him.

— EJ Rotert
11:33 am November 28th, 2008

Let’s do a St. Louis Browns Mt. Rushmore next! Definitely Bill Veeck deserves to be up there. It should have midget Eddie Gaedel growing out of Veeck’s abdomen — like the mutant, resistance leader Kuato in the movie “Total Recall.” I’d have to research three other candidates, though. Not yet up enough on my Browns’ history.

— EJ Rotert
11:44 am November 28th, 2008

Just don’t understand how Jack Buck isn’t somewhere on that mountain. That said, I contend that Herzog would of been a perfect candidate for the rock as well. As an ole timer who frequents local cafe’s and barbershops, I find myself in respected discussions about the Cardinals, so I can tell you from experience wh is talked about both young and old. Stan the Man will be the face long afte he is gone for my generation, can’t replace him, Bob Gibson is discussed by todays youth still and they didn’t even get a chance ot see him, Mr. phat Albert will probably go down as a top 3 or 4 player in the history of baseball, leaving only Ozzie Smith as the lone candidate that could be replaced. In my opinion and apparantly my opinion wouldn’t mean much because the people have voted, but Buck and or Herzog belong there long before Ozzie does. With only spot left, I say Buck would be a better fit than Ozzie Smith.

— Bob
12:19 pm November 28th, 2008

Wow, only 4. I agree with those 4 and the top 8 for that. Mike Shannon should be higher. Also, Hornsby was probably the first Cardinal Superstar.

— Steve
12:39 pm November 28th, 2008

Since we’re being nitpicky here, why not put Chris von der Ahe, the founder and original owner of the team(from 1882-1898) up there? Or Branch Rickey?

— cardsrul
12:43 pm November 28th, 2008

I certainly can’t complain about these choices. I suppose my greatest surprise is that Red Schoendienst didn’t garner more votes, given his combination of credentials and lengthy tenure as a representative of the team…I guess his career has been forgotten, which is kind of a shame but nevertheless tends to happen. As far as the number of choices goes, I look at Mt. Rushmore and think that even today, there are only 44 total presidents to choose from, compared to about 30 when the selections were made for Mt. Rushmore, and even then, I suspect Teddy Roosevelt would have been an unlikely candidate for inclusion except for his then-recent presidency and the fact that he was from North Dakota, the sibling state of South Dakota where the mountain is located. Likewise, there will naturally be those who question the historical significance of Pujols and Smith, but that’s the way these things go. More pertinent in seeing that there were only about 30 presidents at that point, there have been probably 1500 Cardinal players in history, along with 100 or so significant non-players (executives, managers, coaches, journalists, etc.), so drawing four presidents from a field of 30 is far less limiting than drawing four representatives from a field (very roughly) estimated at 1600. Nevertheless, I think it’s an interesting discussion and am glad to hear the results.

— Clinton
1:34 pm November 28th, 2008

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