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11.27.2008 12:50 pm

The St. Louis Cardinals Mount Rushmore

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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TOWER GROVE — After more than 8,500 votes, 173 comments, dozens of spin-off threads, a few lively exchanges over at the Facebook page, and the hours of one talented Post-Dispatch illustrator, it is time to unveil the monument that you helped chisel:

The St. Louis Cardinals Mount Rushmore.

Back during the limbo between playoff series, Bird Land asked the simple question: What four members from Cardinals’ history would you carve into a Mount Rushmore of the franchise? We called it The Rushmore Project. There were no rules, though some demanded that it be kept to players only. There were no guidelines as far as time served, though some insisted that Albert Pujols not yet being eligible for the Hall of Fame should mean he not yet be eligible for Mount Cardsmore as well.

From Stan Musial to George Kissell to Branch Rickey — there was only a list of 15 candidates and the invitation to write in more. Dizzy Dean and Mike Shannon, who should have been No. 16, gained the most write-in votes.

Tom Borgman, a designer and graphic illustrator at the P-D, took the results of the poll, and crafted a photo illustration of what the four winners would look like, blasted into the rock of Rushmore. As a Thanksgiving Weekend treat for Bird Land readers, here is the debut of Bird Land’s Cardsmore:

The St. Louis Cardinals Mount Rushmore

Fab Four: The St. Louis Cardinals Mount Rushmore (illustration by Tom Borgman)

A total of 8,552 people voted, at least check, on the Rushmore Project, and each of the four faces above received at least 40 percent of the vote. Three of the players featured above are Hall of Famers, and the third is well on his way after just winning the second MVP of his career. Musial, of course, led the way, with 8,274 votes, begging the question who were the 3 percent of voters who left him off? Bob Gibson received 7,728 votes (90 percent). In a show of strength from the current generation of Cards Nation, Pujols received 5,087 votes (59 percent), and Ozzie Smith received 3,523 votes (41 percent).

It can be argued that the Cardinals’ Rushmore above features the franchise’s best player, best pitcher, best hitter and best fielder — the four very definitions of the disciplines it takes to play baseball.

Hall of Famers Lou Brock (34 percent), Jack Buck (32 percent), Rogers Hornsby (21 percent) and Red Schoendienst (11 percent) completed the top eight.

The Real Rushmore (Washington, Jefferson, Roosevelt, Lincoln)

The Real Rushmore (Washington, Jefferson, Roosevelt, Lincoln)

With the exception of Mr. Buck, players did the best in the poll, as many voters wrestled with the definition of who belongs on a Rushmore. The most comment approach suggested that only Presidents appear on the real Mount Rushmore, so only players should appear on the Cardinals Rushmore. There’s no Ben Franklin carved into South Dakota, so why should there be a Branch Rickey carved into the Cardinals? Rickey, who helped build the Cardinals from approving the Redbird logo to establishing a farm system to even encouraging the growth of The Knothole Gang, received 164 votes. George Kissell who coached generations of Cardinal received 150 votes. Current manager Tony La Russa received 193 votes, and former owner August A. Busch Jr. received the most of any non-player save Mr. Buck.

The bios of the four members of Cardsmore (from Washington to Lincoln):

After the press conference to introduce Pujols as this year’s National League MVP, several of us — including Maurice Drummond of Fox 2 and P-D columnist Bryan Burwell — sat in the media room and talked about how Pujols has clearly become the face of the franchise. That spawned the question of who is “Mr. Cardinal”? There are really only a handful of candidates. For his play and his personality and his presence still in the public eye, Musial is the obvious answer. Schoendienst has a claim because he still wears the uniform before home games, is a annual visitor and attraction at spring training and was both a Hall of Fame player and one of the franchise’s winningest managers. Now, it’s Pujols. On TV. In video games. Featured in ads. On the field.

The vote above probably gives us the answer.

It certainly identified the cardinal Cardinals.

Let the debate resume once the turkey settles.

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The way I see it Ozzie should not be on this list. Hornsby is George Washinton, the beginning of the Cardinal Tradition. Musial is Jefferson, an original that achieved more for the team than Hornsby. Gibson is a ground breaker like Lincoln. Lincoln kept the nation united and in the process started the path to equality, Gibson radically altered the state of pitching in the game. Pujols is Teddy Roosevelt, an achieving statesman that is perhaps being honored before things have been fleshed out. Ozzie is great, but he doesn’t belong. And as we all have emotional attachment to the list of players Roger listed none of them belong either. We do have a rich history but those for spots are for the top of the list. Hornsby and Musial are musts. Then its either Lou or Gibson and Ozzie and Pujols. I don’t know about you but Pujols is over Ozzie. Lou and Gibby is a tough choice. But Flood, Simmons, Torre, Boyer McCarver, Cepeda, Maris, Forsch, Morris (its a real joke to list him), or my personal hero Willie don’t even come close to making this list.

— RCJ
2:57 pm November 28th, 2008

I still feel it should have been like this

best player stan musial
best pitcher bob gibson
best manager whitey herzog
best owner august a busch

Albert will get his due when he retires

— buckwht
3:06 pm November 28th, 2008

I think the Cardinals need to work more on promotions to honor the earlier history of the team. Ozzies Gold gloves are great. But how many times did Hornsby hit over .400? How many Triple Crowns did he win? Do people know that he played and managed our first World Championship team over Ruth/Gherigs Yankees? Do people know that Ted Williams based his theory of hitting off what he learned from Hornsby? That sounds a lot more impressive than some Gold Gloves, one walk off homer and a World Title over the Brewers. If we are the best fans in baseball the younger generations need a firm grasp of our complete history and not just Musial on. Medwick should be celebrated as well as Dizzy Dean and the rest of the Gas House. Fans 21 and younger probably don’t know what the Gas House is. I’m 28 and I know, its not that hard to learn. I’m shocked Bruce Sutter didn’t show up higher on the list with the recent HOF name recognition. We’re better than that. I implore the Cards to honor the teams and stars of the 20’s and 30’s in the next few years so younger fans can know. Knowing is half the battle.

— RCJ
3:18 pm November 28th, 2008

>>Let’s do a St. Louis Browns Mt. Rushmore next!<<

George Sisler would be the Stan Musial of that group, i.e., the most obvious choice.

— Charles Henrickson
3:27 pm November 28th, 2008

i always wonder what hornsby has to do to get some respect from cardinals nation. my god the guy is a titan among ballplayers. look at his stats. theyre absolutely freakish. the guy only batted a lifetime .358 with 3 seasons of batting .400 or better.to me there is no way ozzie belongs on the monument. i love the wizard. his homerun is my greatest memory of my childhood. but he’s not a mt rushmore type player.and if it isnt hornsby than it has to be medwick.

— bill
3:28 pm November 28th, 2008

Agreed that Hornsby is underestimated by this, although his greatness as a player has to be set against his basic personal cussedness. I’d put him in place of Pujols, not because he’s the greater player (by the time all is said and done, El Hombre will be), but because this kind of honor is normally reserved for those who’ve left us, and we do NOT want AP making a premature departure from this team, let alone this vale of tears…

— Bill from NM
4:15 pm November 28th, 2008

I think LaRussa should have been on it as well

— Edin
5:27 pm November 28th, 2008

Please stop with the fallacy abuse.

— Chris
5:30 pm November 28th, 2008

Great idea! Can’t really argue with the results except for Ozzie over Hornsby. I grew up in the 80s, skipped school to watch Ozzie hit the homer off of Neidenfuer, went to his Hall of Fame induction and loved to watch him play but … I also just went and looked up Hornsby’s stats (http://www.baseball-reference.com/h/hornsro01.shtml). Wow, that was a career! The best news is the Cards are so rich with tradition many, many hall of famers HAVE to get left off if you’re only allowed four. Proud to be a Cards fan.

— Gatormeier
9:51 pm November 28th, 2008

It would be great if the P-D sold this Mount Cardsmore poster! I’d love to give it to some of my friends as a Christmas gift!

— Andy
7:56 am November 29th, 2008

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