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12.23.2008 1:26 pm

St. Louis Cardinals Community Top 30: Falling through the cracks (No. 22)

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TOWER GROVE — The 22nd-ranked prospect on last year’s Baseball America Cardinals’ Top 30 was Mark Worrell, and looking that up a few minutes ago reminded me of a way to judge prospects that I try to bring up as much as possible: Not where they fit within an organization, but who wants them outside the organization.

It strikes me, for example, that from that vaunted draft of 2005 — the draft that is credited with turning around a system, mainly because it was the Colby Rasmus pick — have not traded one player selected. Three players picked in ‘05 have already made the majors from that draft, and several others, like Rasmus, are on the cusp and will make their debuts some time in the 2009 season.

But not one has been traded.

Not Bryan Anderson. Not Shaun Garceau.

Not Nick Weber or Daryl Jones or Jaime Garcia.

Worrell was one of the two prospects headed to San Diego in the Khalil Greene deal — the other one is a PTBNL*, a protected list that includes two pitchers and a position player — and clearly he spot on a prospect list was validated by another team’s interest in him. The bigger the get, the better the prospect is usually a good rule of thumb.

So who are the better gets in the Cardinals’ organization? Garcia was coveted before his Tommy John surgery. Mitchell Boggs has attracted suitors. Rasmus, of course. Brett Wallace will (can’t trade him for a year after his pick). And then there is the unexpected name, the prospect that has slipped through the cracks here: Francisco Samuel.

LHP Nick Additon

A Candidate for No. 22: LHP Nick Additon

With 56 percent of the vote, Fernando Salas, the pitcher Samuel is sometimes confused with because of the similar construction of their names (I’m assuming), won the runoff against Shane Robinson for the 21st spot in our countup of the Top 30 prospects in the St. Louis Cardinals system.  As we near the end of our tour of prospects and your voting of their place in the system, there is a handful of prospects I’d rank higher, move lower, eject, etc. I do, however, really like the personality that this poll has taken on. P.J. Walters “will pitch in the big leagues,” a coach recently told me. Can we assume the same major-league arrival of No. 12 Clayton Mortensen (certainly) and No. 11 Niko Vasquez (harder to say)? Yet, Walters inches into the top 20, and only barely so according to the votes, at No. 19.

The poll for No. 22 is loaded with a few guys who have slipped through the community cracks. There’s Samuel, whose name came up often in Las Vegas as a target of other teams. There’s Nick Additon (pictured), whose numbers — 11-5, 2.23 ERA, 108 Ks, 35 BB, in 137 innings; .258 BA on balls in play in 119 innings at Low-A Quad Cities — stack up well against any other prospect being considered. There’s the intrigue of the international additions like Roberto De La Cruz and Richard Castillo. There’s Shane Robinson, one of the highest-vote getters in the poll who has yet to find a spot in the poll.

And there’s the newcomer for No. 22 — Arnoldi “Tony” Cruz. All he does is hit.

Oh, yeah, and improve as a catcher.

Robinson has the momentum going in, Samuel has the stuff, the outside interest, and resume, and lefty Additon has the position and the performance. Should be a good race.

The Cardinals’ No. 22 Prospect (incumbent: Mark Worrell)

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A recap of the Comm Top 30 so far, as we hit the holidays and near the finish the line:

  1. Colby Rasmus, OF
  2. Brett Wallace, 3B
  3. Chris Perez, RHP
  4. Bryan Anderson, C
  5. David Freese, 3B
  6. Jason Motte, RHP
  7. Daryl Jones, OF
  8. Jess Todd, RHP
  9. Mitchell Boggs, RHP
  10. Jaime Garcia, LHP
  11. Niko Vasquez, SS
  12. Clayton Mortensen, RHP
  13. Pete Kozma, SS
  14. Allen Craig, INF
  15. Jon Jay, OF
  16. Adam Reifer, RHP
  17. Tyler Greene, INF
  18. Lance Lynn, RHP
  19. P.J. Walters, RHP
  20. Adam Ottavino, RHP
  21. Fernando Salas, RHP
  22. TODAY

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* PTBNL — Players To Be Named Later.

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10 comments

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This is the first report that I’ve seen that there are 2 PTBNL besides Worrell. Is that correct or was that an error? (The original reports were 2 PTBNL but one of those (Worrell) has already been named.

— cariocacardinal
2:04 pm December 23rd, 2008

If I may, flip-flop Craig and Anderson. Allen Craig is solid, has hit for power and average every year, while Anderson (whom I like) has digressed.

— boblou
2:07 pm December 23rd, 2008

Right. Worrell and ONE PTBNL. Poorly worded sentence that I failed to cleanup when making the final pass through the post. Good catch. Sorry for the confusion. It is tidied up now.

— Derrick Goold
2:18 pm December 23rd, 2008

Again, here is where the rationale behind each pick is interesting. It would appear to me that both Samuel and Additon are two totally different pitchers. I think that most would agree that Samuel has a higher ceiling. Many seem to think he has some of if not the best stuff in the system. But Samuel is a raw product, however. Whereas, Addition would look to be more of a polished product.

I really like Additon. Solid stats put up between Quad Cities and Palm Beach. He kept the walks down and had an ERA under 3.00 at both locations. That being said, I voted Samuel based on his potential for Number 22 on the list.

— emc2013
2:29 pm December 23rd, 2008

When the tittle was falling through the cracks i thought it would for sure be about Herron. To me this guy is at worst in the top 15. He was in the top 10 last year and had a solid season this year. He struggled in the texas league which is known as being a hitters league and is still young. I think he is more worthy of whatever spot he ends up falling to.

— Kyle
4:05 pm December 23rd, 2008

Herron certainly fits the headline. He was a top-10 prospect a year ago and certainly has his advocates within baseball. Good to point that out.

— Derrick Goold
4:33 pm December 23rd, 2008

I’ve voted for Herron every time since I returned to surf these boards a few weeks ago. I gave up on #22 to get Robinson and Additon out of the way. Yes I think Herron has fallen through the cracks in this poll

I just understood why Garcia fell to #10. I did not realize he had TJ surgery in September. (Man I’ve been working too hard.) More reason to get Randy Johnson and another LHRP in the fold for 2009. Absolutely no LH help can be expected from the system next year.

Yes I am a one-note-samba on R.J.

— Run_Sup_Run
4:57 pm December 23rd, 2008

Another close vote. Shane Robinson in a nail-biter … again.

— Derrick Goold
8:46 pm December 23rd, 2008

I’ve been looking back at last year’s BA Top 30, and it strikes me that it is in numbers 21-30 that I see a profound difference. I read on Cards Talk that BA ranks the Cardinal organization as No. 8. If that is true, it is due largely to the failure of Rasmus to reach the majors last year and to the improved depth.

In 2004 there were very few decent prospects in the Cardinal system. In the years since, the Top 10 have been great and the significant drop-off came later and later in the lists. All of the current choices are good prospects. There will be good prospects who don’t make the Top 30. It has been a while (if ever) since that was true of the Cardinal organization.

— Jack Hickok
7:20 am December 24th, 2008

It is true that there were some good choices who didn’t make the top 30 this year, and a few years I remember feeling like after No. 25 or 26 or whatnot all of the minor leaguers just felt the same.

However, that No. 8 ranking isn’t official. It could be where the Cardinals end up, but that wasn’t the official rank you heard. I checked with an editor at Baseball America and he said, as of right now, the No. 8 was one voter’s opinion and that he would share the official ranking when it’s available.

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— Derrick Goold
8:04 am December 24th, 2008