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12.01.2008 10:52 am

St. Louis Cardinals Community Top 30: Vote for No. 14

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TOWER GROVE — Back from a break for Turkey, the St. Louis Cardinals Community Top 30 picks up where it left off — with a pinch of controversy.

I received a few emails suggesting the voting for No. 13 was swayed by what I wrote leading into the poll. While that’s probably true, I’m at a loss as to how to stop it from happening. I would imagine many of the people voting are being swayed by some form of media, be it the articles written in Baseball America (some by me), in The Post-Dispatch (some by me), or over at Future Redbirds (none by me). There are also the comments that come from fans who have seen these players in person, and yes that too pushes the poll.

Influence is everywhere.

I tend to believe that’s a good thing. Makes for a more informed Top 30.

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New to the poll, RHP Tyler Herron. (Source: Scout.com)

The Bird Land Community’s pick for the No. 13 prospect in the Cardinals’ system was shortstop Pete Kozma, whose unexpected slip out of the top 10 was the topic of that day’s introduction. Kozma received 32 percent of nearly 1,100 votes, an excellent and appreciated total of participants. But know that there is always room for debate and discussion. Don’t be handcuffed by the poll or the intro. I use each poll to help shape the next one. For example: big-arm prospect Adam Reifer was mentioned in several top-10 polls but has slid off because of lack of support. I could see legitimate lists that include him as a top-12 prospect … wait, there I go again. Think of each poll as the primaries for the next one.

The addition to today’s poll is youngster Tyler Herron. A righthanded pitcher the Cardinals plucked out of the cradle of pitching, Florida’s Wellington High School, Herron reached the Class-AA rotation this past season. He had a 2.76 ERA in 62 innings with Palm Beach before the promotion, and he finished 5-5, 5.53 ERA in 81 1/3 innings at Springfield. He was the No. 10 prospect in the system last year according to the Baseball America rankings. Not that I’m saying anything about where he belongs this year.

Before a little clip of top-10 prospect Jess Todd warming up in the bullpen, here’s the poll for No. 14. No intro. No lobbying. No suggestions. Just your votes.

The Cardinals’ No. 14 prospect (Incumbent: Kenny Maiques)

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I went with Craig. You’ll will probably find a lot of people will have him rated higher than Freese. I think the two are pretty close, I think this poll has rated Freese too high and Craig too low. I think Freese’s gaudy numbers are somewhat canceled out by his age.

— Steve
11:37 am December 1st, 2008

I voted for Ottavino. He really has not been that productive I just can’t give up on him yet. If we are building through the draft we better start making our first round picks count.

— chris
11:48 am December 1st, 2008

DG, after reading your post and some of the comments regarding Kozma in your last “Community Top 30″ post, I feel a lot better about Peter Kozma. Looks to be a solid player. One of those guys who does a lot of things well, is nothing flashy, but will hopefully provide consistency at the position. In other words, I’m glad you did “influence” the vote, I’m a lot more comfortable with the prospect of Pete Kozma at SS in the future for the Cards.

Tyler Greene is running out of time. He is 25 years old, and most likely a long shot to make the team coming out of spring training. From what I’ve heard he has some big issues with his swing and its mechanics, and at this point in his career I think everyone was expecting some major steps for Greene. He is just simply running out of time. I don’t see a future on this team for Greene.

My vote went to Craig. He, like Kozma, probably should have been rated higher on this list.

— emc2013
12:08 pm December 1st, 2008

One more thing…

DG, what happened to Ottavino? He went from 12-8 at Palm Beach to 3-7 at Springfield. Maybe a nagging injury of some sorts? Something mechanical? Thoughts?

— emc2013
12:12 pm December 1st, 2008

Completely mechanical. Ottavino developed some bad habits and delivery kinks during and after spring training. He went to the Arizona Fall League to try and correct them. All that from a guy who was advertised as having flawless mechanics when they drafted him.

— Derrick Goold
12:18 pm December 1st, 2008

Adam Reifer. He has a fb slider combo that scouts think could both be 70 pitches on an 80 scale. I put him ahead of Samuel because Reifer has shown better command of his stuff. I could see the argument for Herron or Craig, but Jay has limited upside and if he cannot play CF, would be a bit of a tweener. Greene still does not make consistent enough contact, Walters has limited upside, and until Ottavino’s command improves, a move to the bullpen might be in store for him.

— Secret Sauce
12:20 pm December 1st, 2008

Adam Reifer… for his “upside”. (Hope this isn’t like a vote for Nader!)

— Allen
2:37 pm December 1st, 2008

Adam Reifer. Uber competitor. Great fastball. Great slider. Has the definition of a closer’s mentality.

— Erik
2:49 pm December 1st, 2008

Todd’s delivery reminds me of Joe Blanton. I would be very happy if he could duplicate the early part of Blanton’s career. Also, Craig is seriously underrated at this spot. He is every bit as good if not better than David Freese. IMO Freese is too highly rated and Craig too low.

— stldrakelaw
5:02 pm December 1st, 2008

I put Craig here (or higher) if he can play 2b. If so, he could be a valuable player for the Cardinals soon. If he’s a 3b only, then I would rate him lower than here…he is tradebait.

— jabbo54
7:03 pm December 1st, 2008

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