I wonder if Cubs fans will give DeRosa big ovations everytime he comes to the plate as a Cardinal as they did last weekend when he played for the Indians at Wrigley

The Cubs were trimming payroll??? I thought only the Cardinals and “DeWallet” trimmed payroll? Huh. Who knew?

Now, if we can only trade Mark Mulder back for Dan Haren, the we’ll be set.

Great move. This helps to stabilize the infield and brings a solid bat to the lineup. Not really sure why the article needed to talk about the Cubs so much. This should be more about the Cardinals finally doing something to help the team. Hopefully there are not done, but this is a great start.

Now, if somehow the Cardinals acquired Matt Holliday…that would be an entirely new course of player movement to trace.

Haren, Barton, Calero to OAK for Mulder.
Haren & Robertson to ARI for Anderson, Carter, Cunningham, Eveland, Gonzalez, and Smith.
Gonzalez, Smith, & Street to COL for Holliday.
Holliday to STL for [?]Ludwick, McClellan, & PBTNL[?].

If something like this last trade happened, that would mean…

OAK gets: Barton, Calero, Anderson, Carter, Cunningham, Eveland, Ludwick, McClellan, PTBNL
STL gets: Mulder, Holliday
ARI gets: Haren, Robertson
COL gets: Gonzalez, Street, Smith

Basically, this would mean that the only thing Oakland really gave up in all of this was Mark Mulder. For that satchel of players? Wow!

DeRosa v. lefties, career .863 OPS.

DeRosa with multiple men on base, career .870+ OPS.

DeRosa in the playoffs (45 PA’s), career OPS over 1.000

He really belongs on the Cards, not the cubs, dontcha think?

Derrick, not that it matters for the substance of your post, but P John Gaub is a lefty. Enjoy your posts.

Derrick, one additional question…in your main story on the trade you indicated that the Indians price for Derosa has fluctuated with the ups and downs of the Indians’ season. You seemed to imply that the price the Cards have paid is less than what the Indians wanted a couple of weeks ago. Do you have any idea what the Indians’ previous demand of the Cards was?

If this upsets the “nursing home nine” (formerly known as the cubs) then I think it’s great. And if this suddenly makes our 4 outfielders hit, I’m in. But there is always a ripple down effect for, K. Greene, T. Greene, B. Ryan, and J. Thurston, will see less play time or even be sent down. The long road trip coming up should prove interesting, as for now lets see if the “secret weapon” can improve Derosa’s fielding some and then I’ll be alittle happier about this trade. Jose is known for making average fielders better. “taking the wait and see approach”

DeRosa will be a great fit. However, unless TLR puts Ludwick in the lineup and keeps him there every day, Lud will continue to struggle to find his consistency. HE HAS TO PLAY EVERY DAY. If TLR continues to platoon Lud, then it would be best for all concerned if Lud is packaged in a deal to get Matt HOliday. I’m sure TLR would play Holiday every day and Lud would play for the A’s every day. So DG what can you tell us about the Holiday rumors? Are they off the front burners now that we got DeRosa?

What’s the deal with these trade rumors about Wallace for Holliday?

Brock brought up a good question. I too have seen reports where the A’s would want Ludwick, a big league releif pitcher, and to put the topping on “THEIR CAKE” all talks start with the PTBNL Brett Wallace. No way we make that deal…I hope! Besides, I don’t trust Billy the Bean stalker.

Um, DG, wouldn’t that now be closer to “an (Aaron Miles plus some pitchers)-for-Mark DeRosa swap”

Please for the love of the Cards, do NOT put Luddy in the lineup on any type of regular basis. He has done nothing to deserve starting every game. Last year was a fluke. Only one player deserves that “right”

Thanks, DG. This sounds like a pretty good deal for the short term. I think it will be important to extend him to justify giving up a pitcher like Perez (or I guess a significant playoff run would do). If the cost for Holliday is what Dave in Topeka is saying, then I’d just as soon let Billy Bean go take a long dip in the Bay. That is way too much for one pretty good hitter. Well, let’s see if DeRosa and Pujols can help the rest of the bats get going.

Holliday on the backburner now. Oakland, as was reported, wanted the world for the left fielder. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen — certainly doesn’t mean he won’t be traded somewhere, but the market/demands have to change. They certainly did for Cleveland. The cornerstone part of the DeRosa deal did not seem to change (Motte/Perez and had been for awhile), what went up was the names on the PTBNL. Some reasons: As Mozeliak said Sunday DeRosa’s play improved and that changed the price, also Cleveland’s reality set in, and finally more teams got involved. There were several suitors for DeRosa.

DG,

Do you care to give an educated guess on who the second player in this deal is? (Please, please not Jesse Todd) …

Second question, do you suspect that from the start of the year Perez was considered expendable; which would explain Todd’s move from the rotation to the bullpen? Or is that too much of a stretch to connect these events?

….and speaking of Mulder, how’s his rehab going?

Re: Todd’s move to the bullpen. Too much of a stretch. Be careful when you think in terms of Perez as “expendable” and Motte as the Cardinals pick for the “higher ceiling.” Remember, Cleveland has a say, too. Maybe the Indians thought Perez had the higher ceiling and the bigger upside.

One report has Todd as on the PTBNL a list. Francisco Samuel is believed to be on it as well.

“One report has Todd as being on the PTBNL a list. Francisco Samuel is believed to be on it as well.”

Yes. I have a feeling it’s going to be Todd. This would swing the deal in Cleveland’s advantage, in my opinion.

Dg, thanks for the answer.

We can’t afford to lose Wallace for a bunch a washed up’s.

Call me “indifferent” to this move. The Cardinals couldn’t get Chris Perez to be their future closer so Cleveland now gets a try. The Cardinals get a veteran who can play as many positions as Tony LaRussa wants (see Aaron Miles) and a bat that is good enough for a middle infielder (see Khalil Greene). This move won’t make an impact if you are looking for the Cardinals to go on a winning tear now, but this move will best be felt over the course of the season, when Tony LaRussa mixes, matches, & can go to a Mark DeRosa instead of a Joe Thurston. A win here or there that might have been a loss for this club with its current record: that will be the impact.

Good deal, Mo—we get a guy that can play all over the infield and the outfield too. TLR likes this kind of guy. Decent BA, has some pop and is a solid citizen in the clubhouse. Good Deal, MO!!

Now let’s get greedy. How does this sound for an October line up? Schumaker(OF), DeRosa(2B), Pujols(1B), Tejada(SS), Glaus(3B), Ludwick(OF), Molina(C), Pitcher, Rasmus(OF). Tejada could be had relatively cheaply and knows how to drive in runs. He may hit only a few HR’s, but Glaus can pick up that slack. Throw in Carpenter, Wainwright and Loshe and we would have an excellent chance in any series.

Great move,Mo!…now let’s drop Thurston off in Memphis so he can be re-trained in baserunning and fielding on the way to Oakland for Holliday….or take him as trade bait….

Only the Cubs would think that acquiring Miles made DeRosa expendable.

And, I don’t get this infatuation with Holliday, he apparently cannot hit anywhere that isn’t in Denver.

havent opened a twitter account waitin till the clitter arrives i think ill like that better!