Carhart supports “abortionless” Pelosi health care bill
Does the White House know about this?
Dr. Leroy Carhart, controversial late-term abortion doctor, was spotted at the Pelosi/Reid unveiling Thursday of the final house health care bill. Dr. Carhart, currently under investigation by the Nebraska AG for unsafe medical practices, traveled to Washington and was photographed holding a sign which read “Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice”.
He was spotted by Concerned Women for America’s Wendy Wright who also snapped the photo.
Carhart is currently under investigation by the Nebraska Attorney General’s office after three of his former employees came forward with sworn affidavits that told of illegal activity, unsafe conditions.
All of the women said that they did not have any medical training or licensing, yet they were instructed to perform medical duties that they were not legally qualified to do, such as starting IVs, dispensing medication, and assisting with surgeries.
They claimed that drugs often came up missing, and that there was a general uncleanness about the facility, including the discovery of dried blood on instruments that had been laid out for surgery.
Some of the women claimed that they believed that Carhart was often chemically impaired while on duty, that he had poor personal hygiene, and that he rarely if ever washed his hands between patients.
It’s a bit awkward having Dr. Carhart show up like this — was he invited? — because we have been told, repeatedly, by WH spokesman Robert Gibbs, that federal dollars will not be spent on abortion in the health care bill. No federal dollars!
Trouble is, there’s lots of us out here who don’t believe Mr. Gibbs.
Examples: Let’s start with AP, which has been reporting since early August 5 that abortion would be covered in health care legislation before Congress.
The National Right to Life Committee released a statement immediately following the unveiling of the Pelosi plan:
WASHINGTON (October 29, 2009) — Regarding the health care bill unveiled today by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Ca.), a spokesman for the nation’s largest pro-life organization said, “A vote for this bill is a vote to establish a federal government program that will directly fund abortion on demand, with federal funds.”
Douglas Johnson, legislative director for the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC), referred specifically to language on page 110 of the new bill (H.R. 3962) which explicitly authorizes the “public health insurance option” to pay for all elective abortions…..
…..”The public plan will be a federal agency program, and all funds spent by the agency are federal funds,” Johnson said. “The nonpartisan Congressional Research Service (CRS), in an October 9 memo obtained by NRLC, confirmed that all funds spent by the bill’s public plan will be federal funds. Prominent Democrats who have claimed that the federal government could pay for abortion with ‘private’ funds have been engaged in a big snow job — and in swallowing such a contrived, implausible claim, many journalists have been all too gullible.”
Meanwhile, the day following the Pelosi unveiling, Reuters carried this headline about the response of the Catholic Church:
Perhaps most interesting has been public reaction.
Since May, we have learned, again and again, that more Americans are defining themselves as prolife.
And with various health care options being tossed around these past few months, numerous polls have been taken to see if the American public welcomes the idea of public money being used for abortion.
In today’s op/ed for USAToday, Bart Stupak reminds us of these poll results. According to polls, the American public generally does not want to pay for abortion coverage, not with public money nor with private insurance. And the public most definitely does not want health care reform used to promote abortion.
And this just in: According to Life News,
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) — Now that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has introduced the latest version of the government-run health care reform bill that funds abortions, the latest polling data shows opposition increasing. A Rasmussen Reports survey shows opposition up from 6 to percent since before the Pelosi bill.
And, finally, add one more to the list of Americans newly opposed to abortion: According to Texas TV station KBTX, Planned Parenthood Director Abby Johnson has resigned from the Bryan Planned Parenthood near College Station, Texas. After watching an ultrasound, she said,
“I just thought I can’t do this anymore, and it was just like a flash that hit me and I thought that’s it.”
Does the White House know about all this?
Does anyone in the White House care?



Sherry Tyree, 66, a graduate of John Burroughs School and Washington University, is a founding member (1984) and Vice President of Women for Faith & Family, a national Catholic women's organization that supports and defends traditional church teachings. Sherry is married to Dr. Donald A. Tyree, professor emeritus, School of Business, St. Louis University.
It is just too bad that babies in the womb cannot be polled about abortion. All too soon, it looks like, the ones who are born will be fined if they do not participate in the government health care mandates that permit elective abortions. We should be ashamed. Freedom is diminished. God is watching.
Hey davel,
If “God is watching”, what do you think he will do about it? NOTHING!!
The poster known as “hs” says “God is omniscient”. Do you know what that means? If you think “It means God knows everything, past, present, and future”, then you are correct! If true, and if God is real, then it means that God already knows about every abortion that will be performed between now and eternity. It means that every single abortion ever performed or that will ever be performed is already fully disclosed to God, and there is not a thing, no thing whatsoever, you can do to change it. It’s simple: God KNOWS it, it can not happen any other way.
In all honesty, that sounds like baloney to me. I think you agree, but you will have to say. Regardless your Belief, working backwards shows without a doubt that either a) God is real, but not omniscient, or b) God is imaginary, and, as we all know, fictional beings can be assigned any super-duper powers their creator imagines.
Personally, I wish we had a society where people took their reproductive potential more seriously, and a society where pregnant women felt much more comfortable about carrying embryos and fetuses to term. I am unclear how threatening people with “God is Watching” does any of that.
Mydog, what ARE you going on about?
God does NOT know all in the past and future: He is eternal - outside of time. Everything is “right now” to God.
And since time is merely the measure by which we know change in the created physical universe, and since even as spiritual beings our existence in involved in that measure, in eternity, you yourself are “right now” praising God in Heaven for bringing you to share in His own supernatural life by sanctifying grace (or so is my sincere prayer).
But you see, “in time”, YOU must freely participate in that reality yourself of your own will (if you shall indeed attain to it).
“For God, Who created us without ourselves, will likewise not save us without ourselves.” - St. Augustine
Give fictional characters any power we want?
I think rather YOU need to stop claiming omnipotence for yourself - which is, in the long run, a far more silly proposition.
Hey Lee,
You had better take up that “not omniscient” property with the poster known as “hs”. I’ll join you, evidently you and I agree that “God doesn’t know everything”. In fact, I said so. And I proved it, though perhaps you disagree. I think maybe you are waffling. That, or you don’t know what you’re going on about.
According to The Source, i.e. the very Bible itself, God most certainly DOES have a time-awareness, if not his own, then certainly ours! Often God says “do this, then I will do that”… the word “then” indicates time awareness. Not to mention “On the FIRST DAY…, then the SECOND DAY…, etc.” You might be right about God, but’s not just all “in the moment”, as you postulate. How do you presume to know so much about God, anyway? I think you are just guessing.
Here, read The Word of God, Psalms 139:16, “your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.” See, God knows about every birth, and by extension, every aborted fetus long BEFORE they came to be. Even if God doesn’t know everything, here is the clear claim to know some stuff before it happens, and precisely the stuff about births and deaths which is relevant both to the article and to davel’s and my own first comment.
I don’t have to be “omnipotent” to read and understand the plain language of the Holy Bible. Neither do you.
I do have some ideas about improving society in order reduce abortions. You didn’t seem to have any objection. Do you agree with me there, or did you overlook them in your haste to thrust an ad hominem into the conversation?
Sorry, mydog, but I don’t quibble with non-Catholics concerning Divine Revelation, the proper context of natural morality, metaphysical reality or any other matter about which they simply have not the infused entitative habits to apprehend rightly.
For one who has received the Divine Virtues of Faith and Charity to attempt to describe any matter of the Faith with one who is without that Virtue, as well as currently oppossed (apparently) to it, is like trying to describe tonal qualities of varying instruments to one born deaf, or varying shades of color to one born blind. You simply do not possess the faculties.
All I can do is witness; yours is merely to seek, beg, and cooperate with the actual graces which God may give you.
And here’s the good news! If you are truly and sincerely seeking the Truth, and are a person of good will, God will respond to this aspiration which He Himself has initiated, and you will receive and hold the Catholic Faith before you die, and be saved.
But first you will have to be shorn of your obvious ill-will and arrogance.
It is unfortunate that in Mrs. Donald A. Tyree, we have a ‘journalist’ who is a cut and paste writer, that is, when she is not having the president of the National Right to Life, write her columns for her.
(In truth, Mr.Douglas Johnson, should be listed as the co ‘author’ of her columns, for many is the time, when he has written more of it, than she has.)
If she finds the assignment of writing this column too taxing ,then I submit that she do the honourable thing, and step aside for one, who can provide more than mere partisan regurgitation.
Mrs. Tyree has made an attempt to portray Dr. Carhart, as nothing less than the - spawn of Satan.
And perhaps,yes perhaps, there are those who accept her views, without doing their homework.
But - With just a few quick clicks of your mouse, one is lead back into the world of reality, and away from Mrs. Tyree’s morality play.
Mrs. Tyree’s co-hearts, in the anti-abortion community of ‘Life’, have:
burned his house down / burned his barn down/ destroyed his car,truck / killed his domestic pets and, more than a doz.horses/ threatened death to his entire family/ sued him Unsuccessfully - on multiple occasions, in hopes of financially destroying him/ and too much more to list.
ALL In The Name of - drum roll please - Mrs. Tyree’s brand of Christianity and Morality !
And now - A few small tidbits to munch on, if you have not already been sickened, by this merry band of outlaws.
The women, who have charged that drugs were missing from the clinic - All have felony drug convictions. Now where or where could those little drugs have gone to ?
A, Jennifer McCoy, who has been a major player with these so-called right to ‘life’ groups who are trying to take down Dr. Carhart, spent 30 months in prison for arson,having set fires to abortion clinics in Virginia.
When she got out - that angel of mercy, has been making prison visits to Scott Roeder,the accused murderer of one Dr. Tillis ( who was gunned down, on a Sunday, in his Church).
Let us not forget that Dr. Carhart is not being investigated for infractions. The police are investigating, the charges, brought by three convicted drug felons, who are being financially sustained by Operation Rescue and Army of God (their spelling not mine).
This is while Operation Rescue,Army of God, etc. are all being investigated for horrific crimes.
To be against reproductive rights, is Mrs Tyree’s right.
To be morally aligned with groups that support the actions, visited upon Dr. Carhart - well, how to put this nicely, that is more than objectionable.
Mrs.Tyree should be more careful with the company she, intellectually, keeps company with.
One is known by the company one keeps - and Randall Terry should be on No One’s dance card.
Hey Lee,
In other words, you have nothing to say, and surrender any attempt to defend your earlier claims.
Good for you!
Sure, Mydog, if that idea comforts you.
Perhaps you are a person with much insight!
And then again, maybe not.
Only Almighty God and you yourself know for certain.
I’ll leave it there with the both of You.
Carry on, seek on, challenge Heaven to take you!
You seem to possess all the potential to become a Saint!
And if you should indeed attain to and enter that company of the blessed before me, please remember me.
Cynthia,
Actually, there is only one thing that I need to know about the abortionist Carhart: he has utterly destroyed human persons.
Whatever damage he has incurred from this fact - albeit quite unjustly as ‘vengenge is mine’ says Our Lord - pales in comparison to the heinous iniquities by which he has first gravely offended Almighty God, and by extension trespassed so violently and with such moral insouciance against his fellow human creatures.
His actions are worthy of all contempt, and I sincerely pray that he may yet be given the grace to turn and receive eternal life as Dr. Nathanson has so received.
Of course I perceive by your responses that you probably havn’t the least understanding to grasp the magnitude of that moral atrocity which is the deliberate destruction of a human person in the womb, but there it is.
mydogshakespeare,
The Greek word translated as “Omnipotent” is pantokrator, meaning “All-ruling” or (as it is more frequently translated) “Almighty.” When we say God is “Almighty,” we are stating our belief in His authority and rulership over all creation, and the Bible is firm in declaring this fact. However it is man who has made a mess of this term omnipresent, to mean something that it was never intended to mean. “Pantokrator” the Greek term has nothing at all to do with God knowing the choices that people will make before hand, it only means being present everywhere at the same time.
God does know and can read what is in people’s hearts and thoughts at any time or given moment. This is a big difference from knowing the choices people will make before hand. This is why God extended His grace to ALL mankind giving each of us the equal opportunity to make a decision to love Him and turn away from sin.
If God knew beforehand the choices people would make, He would not have been so disturbed by the wickedness of mankind as shown to us in Genesis 6:5, 6 and, so many other places shown to us in Scripture,
“When the Lord saw how great was man’s wickedness on earth, and how no desire that his heart conceived was ever anything but evil, he regretted that he had made man on earth, and his heart was grieved. [Gen. 6:5,6]
Lastly, I apologize for the arrogant way in which Lee responded to you earlier, I found him to have responded in an extremely unchristian fashion.
Never allow anyone to keep you from asking questions that don’t make sense (somehow I don’t think that you ever will),(lol). Frankly, the way inwhich many Christians incorrectly apply the term Omnipotent to God is very disturbing and does great harm in people learning what is true about God as written in Scripture.