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03.02.2009 3:35 pm

What does your belief system say about suicide?

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Does your religious or philosophical tradition teach that suicide can ever be an ethical act? And what is your personal belief?  Humanists usually support the right of individuals to make decisions about their own lives, including the right to end a life of incurable, unbearable suffering.  At the same time, there are legitimate practical questions about legalizing assisted suicide, such as the pain of loved ones who would have preferred the person die a “natural” death, or, conversely, the possibility that legalizing assisted suicide would pressure people to commit suicide just to save their families from the astronomical medical bills that often accompany end-of-life care. What does your tradition teach, and/or what do you think? Under what circumstances, if any, do we have the right to choose our own exit from life? Should the State allow physicians or others to aid people seeking a clean and painless death?

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the religion i was born into of course says it is the worst sin ever.

My own little religious/spiritual views take the same ends but have a different reason. The way I see it is that everyone is here for a reason. And you will never really know what that reason is….is only known to God…or the great spirit…or whatever. If you kill yourself, you have taken yourself out of the life-cycle without completing your mission…which throws the world out of whack. Your reason may only be to meet someone else and influence them in a decision that moves life on earth forward onto wherever it is supposed to be going….and then you will die.
but it is not your decision.

However, I have relaxed this rule as the population has been expanding. Do whatever you want, just try not to cause too much traffic when you do.

— larry
4:27 pm March 2nd, 2009

Personally, I hope I have a choice when the end of my days draws near. Who knows how I will feel then, but right now, I’m not particularly excited about prospect of interminable debilitating pain for months on, soiling myself, coughing up blood, or living in a coma just so my survivors can observe my indignity and so that some “medical providers” can profit by carving slice after slice from my financial assets.

The only reason the ancient morality books warn that suicide is a sin, is to try and prevent the loss of productive lives. Life was shorter and likely there was much more despair, but every hand was essential for group survival, if not to grow crops or build homes or tools, then to build defenses and man them. Suicide among productive males and childbearing females would have a much more profound effect on their small communities. (Frankly, I think murder is a worse sin, but I didn’t write The Book.)

I probably have more than a couple of decades, so maybe enlightenment will prevail in civilized areas by then. If not, then at least bring on the meds!

— mydogshakespeare
8:02 pm March 2nd, 2009

“Suicide contradicts the natural inclination of the human being to preserve and perpetuate his life. It is gravely contrary to the just love of self. It likewise offends love of neighbor because it unjustly breaks the ties of solidarity with family, nation, and other human societies to which we continue to have obligations. Suicide is contrary to love for the living God. If suicide is committed with the intention of setting an example, especially to the young, it also takes on the gravity of scandal. Voluntary co-operation in suicide is contrary to the moral law. Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide. Suicide is seriously contrary to justice, hope, and charity. It is forbidden by the fifth commandment.” (CCC 2281, 2282, 2325)

— DJB
9:43 am March 3rd, 2009

I don’t know. It might be best to define suicide. Is eating what you want without regard to the many voices now-days telling you what to eat suicide? What about how much sleep or exerecise you either get or don’t get enough of? There are many advisors who will tell you that you are killing yourself if you drink alcohol or smoke or chew. If suicide is listening to your own body and doing what you think is best for you - and God’s plan for you - with cursory regard for those who lecture, I say: “Go for it!”.

— davel
9:48 am March 3rd, 2009

………….In my career I have responded to many suicides and I can tell you I have learned from interviewing family members, mental-depression is almost always the main factor involved. Sometimes the “reason” for the depression is known by the family, sometimes it remains unclear.

Therefore I believe that it is unjust for us to judge a person who “commits” suicide, because (from my EMS experience) those folks were most likely not of rational mental capacity when they died.

Although I’m not particularly religious, I am a theist. As for my personal beliefs regarding the situation of suicide, I cannot think for a minute that an understanding supreme-being would not have compassion for a mentally-distressed suicide victim.

— crashtest
10:41 am March 3rd, 2009

The commitment to free will relies on the existence of free will.

Suicide ends choice. I can’t imagine anything more precious than choice. Even life is spent.

I can’t imagine a despair so deep there is no more choice, yet there is. Unless, it is the despair that we have nothing more to offer it.

— Another
2:42 pm March 3rd, 2009

My personal philosophy says two things about this
issue.

First, what’s the big hurry?

Second, there are too many sphincter-speakers who
would have a block-party if I did–nothing doing.

As to the rights of others to self-exterminate, I
encourage them to do so as soon as possible.

Get crackin’.

— Urban B. Light
3:30 am March 4th, 2009

I think that suicide is wrong. Great God gives every minute happiness by following his message. A lot does not know that if bad happens God can undo today if you are dedicated and following laws or maybe tomorrow. Also heaven is wonderful. Know that resolve maybe in heaven. Thank you for your time. 1 corinth 14:26. gal 3:3. psa99:9-pray.Rev12:9- torments and fools us. A real war from the sky. Real christian help other real christians. Watchout for evils techniques. Say your goin to follow God! The rural is awesome.

— Jesuscnationbrownalterbele
12:37 pm March 4th, 2009

I think if someone is of rational thought, and they’ve adequately weighed the positives and negatives of their action, suicide should be a personal right. No one asked to be born — that is, unless you subscribe to the same belief as the Erewhonians.

— EJ Rotert
8:31 am March 5th, 2009

Another thing: Years ago in Jennings some guy who was despondent over some emotional attachment gone-awry
tried to commit suicide by blowing his home up with a
natural gas explosion. The house was destroyed, the
morose jerk lived. He damaged many neighboring dwellings as well.

I could make a lot of points here about the self-
absorbed suicide consigning others who are not involved
to suffer all manner of outrages and other negative consequences whilst relieving themselves from their
own suffering, but I won’t.

I’d just like to point out that some years later I know of a case of suicide done with a mere .22 firearm. Not only did the individual successfully accomplish what he set out to accomplish, none of the neighbors were inconvenienced, injured, or caused any economic losses. In fact, due to the relatively low noise signature of that particular type of firearm, most of the neighbors didn’t even know about it happening.

So the moral of my little tale is, THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS HAS MANY UNINTENDED POSITIVE CONSEQUENCES WHICH ARE NEVER ENUMERATED BY INDIVIDUALS SUCH AS LYDA KREWSEN OR “JET” “BANG-BANG” BANKS.

I’m sorry the man killed himself and had I been in his place, I wouldn’t have done it on a dare. I’m sure the guy wasn’t that bad a person and that if he’d just waited awhile his insurmountable personal problem would have gone away and faded into the past and he’d have been able to go on with his life and find enjoyment and personal moments of peace. But since that wasn’t the way he proceeded, for the sake of his neighbors I’m sure glad he decided to do it the way he did instead of the way the jerk in Jennings tried it.

People who fear firearms want everyone getting one–failing that they can’t keep anyone from getting one–to undergo detailed psychological evaluation and a thorough criminal background check. Pseudoephedrine is already required to be a behind-the-counter remedy and you have to sign a register because someone *might* buy it and set up a meth lab. Never mind that the pseudoephedrine itself is not one of the many possible materials involved in such a lab which causes the site of preparation to become a “superfund site”–it’s the other materials used in it’s preparations, but you have to sign a register to get a relatively benign decongestant which doesn’t make you drowsy at the wheel or at the turret lathe and now it’s looking like it’s going to become a prescription item.

Meanwhile, any imbecile or psycho can move in any house with almost no oversight whatever from anyone–especially if they’re not planning on putting any kids in the local schools and don’t need any stinking occupancy-permit. They will be hooked up to a huge supply of explosive methane gas as soon as back Laclede bills are paid and the connection fee and deposit are paid, no checks, no nothing.

How safe does that make you feel, gun-grabbers?

— Urban B. Light
5:14 am March 6th, 2009