Sadly, the “Christian right” are Republicans first and Christians second. Conservatives decided that the way to win votes was to make the most comically over the top attempts at casting Obama as a wide-eyed radical. As a result, they missed an opportunity to save some souls because their eye was on politics merely for the sake of politics.

It’s one thing to argue that Obama is on the wrong side of an issue, and propose a better solution. It’s another thing to argue that your opponent is evil and that you’re evil if you support him. Conservatives tried the latter approach this time and failed. Yet, despite the slanders, Obama continues to offer conservatives at least some place at the table.

Does anyone one really believe that many of those who identify themselves as the “Christian Right” is really all that concerned about the instructions that Christ gave? I can’t see where as a whole that they are granted there must be some, but I have never witnessed one.

I see them being more concerned about what they think than what Jesus in The Bible (Scripture) instruct.

I recall vividly the Christian radio station that I use to listen to regularly discontinue airing the Presidential State of the Union addresses due to their loathing of President Clinton and this was before that scandal of his, their cold treatment and disrespectful attitudes began immediately upon him entering office. Even being very young at that time and not being very mature in my faith it grieved my spirit how the attitude of these Christians over the airwaves behaved towards this man.

I wonder if these ones on the “Christian Right” will treat their new President, Obama in the same unchristian way. Probably a very stupid question I have asked due to seeing so much of it already.

I will have to tune in to see if the Christian radio states have discontinued the President’s “State of the Union” addresses.

Are you saying the christian right should support Obama because to do so may convert muslims to christianity? Have we missed the solution about what to do with the prisoners at Gitmo? Maybe if right wing christians - if they were right wing christians - had not tried to pin the Muslim label on Obama the Gitmo residents would now be repenting, converting to christianity and joining the Republican Party? Darn, how could we have been so stupid!

It would be stupid to base support for Obama on this one issue you raise, alone, even if it seems credible. Statements - true or false - are made in the heat of political campaigns to help determine who the candidates are. In Obama’s case, as long as the media continues to fawn over him, we may never know who he is. We already know he has decided to close Gitmo and it is apparent he has made that decision without thinking through what he is going to do with the prisoners.

If there is “almost rabid” opposition to Obama from the christian right it may be bacause no one knows what he is going to do. Could it be that if more details were known about Obama’s intent the opposition would be less rabid? That depends on whether or not Obama’s intentions are for the good of the country.

I believe you spell his name Barack. The reason that the Christian right opposed him in case you missed it, was because he had the highest rating from the pro-choice movement and plans to sign the FOCA bill. Have you been living under a rock Mr. Shah? Muslims also oppose abortion and gay marriage, but for some odd reason they bucked their religion and voted for Obama. Yet, they want everyone else to live in their Sharia law world - and you guys can mock Christians? Give me a break sir. At least Christians in this century don’t kill their enemies while proselytizing. Boy, talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

The religious right opposes Obama because they see him at best as a hypocrite, or worse, as apostate. Why? Because he is not an anti-abortion absolutist first, and because he is a member of a suspect church (Trinity Church in Chicago). Note that in this very blogspace just a few days ago, I was told that I could not hold a pro-choice position and consider myself Christian.

Secondly, many on the religious right have conflated Christian values with hard core Republican party politics. Those for whom the phrase “Obamamessiah” rolls cleanly off their lips have no problem with considering Ronald Reagan as the man who saved America.

The question of taking the Gospel to the Moslem world has no value to them. To most, the Moslems of the world are so far gone that salvation is not available to them, so they prefer the phrase “nuke ‘em all and let God sort ‘em out”.

One more thought: don’t consider Rick Warren as a poster child for the religious right. He’s suspect, not only because he accepted the invitation from Obama to pray at the Inauguration, but because he dared to invite Obama (among others) to speak at an AIDS forum at his church last year.

Maybe they look for fruits of christianity before using just anybody as a missionary to the muslim world.

He’s not bringing the christian message to the “christian” world. Why think he would bring it to the muslim world?

hs,
No pro-murder view point can arrive from a christian world view. I think you are misrepresenting Tim’s statement still. Feel free to hold your view and be a christian, but don’t try to say you hold it as a christian. We are human and can be very wrong on nearly any issue, yet still be christians.

Oh, and “not anti-abortion” is not what it’s about. Being rather militantly pro-abortion (different than pro-choice) through his actions is the problem.

Faithful, a much more accurate statement would be that conservatives tried that approach and made the election a lot closer than it should of been given the liberal media’s desire to elect Obama after a President with incredibly low popularity numbers.

Khalid, your posts are usually pretty sound but this one makes no sense. I don’t think the Muslim issue had much to do about it from a religious point of view. As already mentioned this guy is a radical abortionsist, one of the few things he did have time to establish in his whole two years of national experience. I also think a lot of Christians had a much bigger problem with his so-called Christian church and Rev. Wright. The Muslim issue was never a big one, and there is hardly a stampede in America by Christians to convert Islamists (one article in the NY Times originally written in 2003 doesn’t have much weight with me either). This post is not well thought out, sorry.

By the way, I was the one that told hs that being pro-choice and christian don’t mix, for those of you that are interested. We never delved into that topic further, but for full disclosure I thought I’d mention that.

Khalid, Christian right opposition of president Obama is evident for obvious reasons: abortion, gay marriages, and mistrust( he has a muslim name). I agree with you that he was the most appropriate candidate for his current job. ACentrist, for your info Muslims who voted for Obama did so for multiple reasons, # 1 being that he was the better candidate. Americans did not want another failure. Sharia law is for muslims to observe & in American society your criticism of muslims does not have any merit. As for hs, its Muslim not moslem and for any one’s salvation is God’s decision not yours. For your information Muslisms believe that Plsams, Torah and Bible were revealed by same God who revealed Quran.

Interesting comments for and against. A few things needed response. I am not unhappy about this as at best I am ambivalent about Christian proselytizing to Muslims (being a Muslim myself ). I didn’t give too many references but the total spent on proselytizing abroad by America based churches runs into many billions of dollars per year. So it is not a small enterprise and hence my comments.

Tim, the only thing I would like to caution, as a fellow believer, is avoid going out on the limb and labeling someone else as not a believer (not a Christian or not a Muslim etc.). There is a saying from Prophet Muhammad cautioning strongly against this. What he said was “if you call someone a non-believer then one of you two is a non-believer”. That to me makes this a lose-lose situation. If someone is not a believer that’s their problem, why call them one and take a chance on losing my own faith. From a purely selfish point of view we are ultimately primarily interested in our own salvation. Perhaps this idea is also in Christianity. Just to say this is a dangerous thing to do.

I did think about this a long time and waited till after the election dust had settled. But seems that for a number of responders going to church etc. is not important (and some churches are not acceptable at all) and there are litmus tests to pass. Too bad. I hope on the Day of Judgement we all want God to be as lenient as possible and how can we ask for leniency for ourselves if we have such rigid tests for others?