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05.03.2008 6:00 pm

Faith & cultural identity

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Presidential candidate Barack Obama’s troubles vis a vis Reverend Jeremiah Wright have brought to mind a conversation with a favorite server at Schneithorst Kaffee Haus a couple of years ago. Susan had just read Rick Warren’s The Purpose Driven Life and she was inspired to return to church, but which one.?

“The Lutheran church,” said her mother. “You’re German.”

So there you have it: religion as a means of shoring up one’s cultural identity. Good idea? In the short term, perhaps, but in the long term?

One of the most successful stories is, or was, Anglicanism. English national identity certainly benefited from the break from Roman Catholicism, or so it seemed at first. Now, centuries later, having finally backed off of colonialism and imperialism, Anglican England is far less religious than heretofore — hmmm — and full of “redundant” churches, so many that the weekly magazine CountryLife (March 20, 2008) held a contest to find “churches that have successfully adapted themselves to serve the wider needs of the community in which they stand.”

The finalists are churches that are now used for post offices, farmers’ markets, coffee mornings, fashion shows, quiz evenings, film screenings, private parties, contemporary art exhibits — you get the idea — all because of “dwindling congregations.”

Can what happened to Anglicanism happen to Reverend Wright’s Christian church? It is obviously — and unabashedly — tied up with an African American cultural identity. It, too, must have seemed a good idea at first, perhaps it still does to many. Perhaps it seemed a good idea to candidate Obama who, it is speculated, was attracted to a Christianity that reinforced his black identity.

Reverend Wright has said that all criticism of him is criticism of “the black church.” Within the last few days, however, other black pastors have publicly disagreed with him. One, Reverend Eugene Rivers, Azusa Christian Community, criticizes Rev. Wright for embracing a “left wing social science masquerading as religion.” Rivers and other black pastors are moving away from “black Christianity” and are emphasizing Christianity, not black, not white.

The highly diverse Catholic church — which James Joyce famously called “Here comes everybody” – is still not immune to cultural distortions: our local St. Stanislaus Church is a current and painful example.

Religion and cultural identity: a benign and comforting addition to religion — or a seductive and dangerous alliance?

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I think you were close to arriving at an important point when you started discussing the upbringing of children and religion as a cultural identity. The point of it is this: it is inappropriate for young children to be labeled by their parents’ religion(s). They are too young to know any better - too young to decide. Instead, they are children of Lutheran (etc.) parents. Think of it this way: Should we label young children as Monetarists or Keynesian economists? Should we label young children as Republicans or Democrats or Green Party members? Should we label young children as Utilitarians or Deontologists? The answer is No.

— Benja
9:37 pm May 3rd, 2008

Benja,

You certainly do not understand matters of a spiritual nature. You see, if you raise your children truly in the ways of God/Christ, it will not depart from them. [Proverbs 22:6]. And, if they do at some point turn away from their faith, they will most always find their way back. A good example of this is as told by Jesus in the story of the “Lost Son”, or some call the “Prodical Son”. [Luke 15:11-32]

My child is raised Christian and is a Christian.

— D. Walker
3:09 pm May 4th, 2008

#1

Parents in raising their children are making decisions that will be the best for them in the future. If parents believe in faith A, and they believe it is the “true faith”, then they will want their children to believe in it also. What is wrong with that? You are correct that children are too young to decide. That is why the parents choose for them until they get older.

What you seem to suggest is that parents should provide a completely neutral learning environment. What morals do we teach the kids then? Should we let the kid decide what is right or wrong? Kids can’t vote till their 18 so I think the example of being members of Republicans and Democrats is void.

— eagle_eye222001
10:10 am May 5th, 2008

All religions are cultural distorters. In this area, there are plenty of saintly named towns that would not be so named if it were not for the Roman Catholic religion. It is not likely there would be so many anti-abortion road signs without the Catholic religion. Where would “the Hill” be without a predominately Catholic Italian immigrant population? Would Saint Louis be a beer town?

The “Here comes everybody” quote to describe the Catholic religion is untrue. It ignores the Protestant Reformation that reasserted the primary importance of personal relationships with God, after the example of Christ, and was a reaction to the cultureal influence of the Catholic church at that time. Possibly the worst cultural offense of the Catholic Church was to confer a “devine right” to the kings of europe, e.g. Louis XIV of France. With their devine right, they killed “heretics”.

Today there is a similar “devine right” being conferred to the Catholic faithful who are expected to represent the Church - and persumably, the foreign government that is the Vatican - to America. The case of American politicians and Bishop Burke comes to mind. Fortunately, Catholic heretics will not be burned at the stake today, they will only be denied communion.

As the Catholic community grows, protestant America must get used to the thought that much of our country’s policies are not being shaped only in the United States but in the Vatican as well, or else someone may be excommunicated.

Sherry Tyree is right. The Catholic Church is not immune to cultural distortions but any implication that organized religion and the Roman Catholic Church is not itself a culture is absolutely false.

— davel
11:18 am May 5th, 2008

I seriously don’t have any idea what this blog entry means.

What are the conclusions to be drawn from the various examples presented?

— Joan
2:48 pm May 5th, 2008

D. Walker,
You clearly have misjudged me. I certainly do “understand matters of a spiritual nature,” contrary to your assertion. I grew up Evangelical, had a “born again” experience when I was a teenager, and was very active in the Church for many years. When I was a young man, I had the Sermon on the Mount memorized, along with various other passages of scripture. I’ve spent much time among and learning from Southern Baptist, Charismatics, and Jesuits. However, with all of the crass immoral teachings in the Bible (particularly in the Old Testament, but also in the New), I most emphatically do not regard the Bible overall to be a good moral compass, and I do not use it with my children. Certainly there are a number of good things that can be “cherry-picked” out of the Bible, and in my experience, that is what most people do.

— Benja
9:07 pm May 5th, 2008

As we look to what the impact is upon the political chances of Sen. Barack Obama for his former relationship with Rev. Wright, so too should wee look at John McCain and his relationship of choice with Pastor John Hagee.

Mr. McCain, what faith and cultural identity do you have that allows you to actively seek out the endorsement of a man the conservative Catholic League calls an “anti-Catholic bigot?”

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/02/28/donohue/

— Tim Hogan
4:39 pm May 6th, 2008

However, with all of the crass immoral teachings in the Bible (particularly in the Old Testament, but also in the New), I most emphatically do not regard the Bible overall to be a good moral compass, and I do not use it with my children.

Benji, your above statement shows that you do not use the bible as God intended. My intention is not to judge you.

The immoral behaviors in the bible are not recorded to teach one to live by these immoral actions, but to learn from and also they give one insight into how God sees us and behaviors. It also show and prove the nature of mankind and how hopeless and evil man’s heart is without separate and apart from Christ. The Old Testament gives us the understanding for the reason for Christ and why it was necessary that He was sacrificed to bear the sins of all mankind.

The Holy Scriptures are the best moral compass that exists. This is what God say. From my prior ignorance of God, my failures, mistakes and all my sins, I can vouche that the bible is the only moral compass worth studying and taking heed to.

— D. Walker
2:08 pm May 8th, 2008

I have written a post on Anglicanism, partly in response to this post. I was first just going to make the comment that Anglicanism and the Church of England are not exactly the same thing, but then I realized I had more to say than that, so I wrote a separate post.

It’s pretty easy to find under the “most recent posts”list, if you’re interested.

–Pamela

— Pamela Dolan
2:29 pm May 8th, 2008

I am sorry for ignoring the question of the blog, which was:

Religion and cultural identity: a benign and comforting addition to religion — or a seductive and dangerous alliance?

Scripture teach that Christians are suppose to be one in spirit without regard to race or culture. Scripture recognized that their was nothing wrong with the different cultures in Christianity, and as Rev. Wright states, “different is not deficient”.

An example of this according to scripture is where it was not wrong for Jews to follow their culture tradition of circumcision, but these same Jews were rebuked for attempting to require and expect a Gentitles to be circumcised.

There’s nothing wrong with recognizing culture tradition. In fact, I think that God expects one to be thankful to Him for such differences and all things that He has allowed the different cultures and races to go through and come through. I think about how God commanded the Jews to celebrate Passover as a reminder to them of what He did for them in Egypt, recusing them out of slavery after being enslaved by Egypt for over 400 years.

But, the moral, character and social teachings of Christ that are clear cannot as set forth in scripture cannot be compromised and viewed differently by any group who consider themselves to be followers of Christ.

— D. Walker
2:32 pm May 8th, 2008

It pains and grieves my spirit to see Christians go before the media(the world) and be used to please Satan. It is awful and wrong for another Christian or Christian pastor to criticize another pastor because they do things differently or do not agree with them over matters that are not mortal sin(s) or crime by another Christian or minister. This is not how God call Christians to approach things

— D. Walker
2:58 pm May 8th, 2008

All organized religions are culturally diverse and culture cannot be separated from the organization. If events, like Christian communion, are more important than the endeavors of love, hope and faith, (1 Corinthians, chapter 13) the future for Christian unity and religious tolerance is dim.

— davel
9:19 am May 13th, 2008