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11.06.2008 4:41 pm

The religious left reasserts itself?

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With the election of Barack Obama, and the fact that, despite their vast political differences, faith remained as much a part of his candidacy as it did with our current president’s, some are suggesting that the “religious left” is resurging. An earlier post here by Pamela Dolan hinted at it.

Traditionally understood, we could define the “religious left” as mainline (”white bread”) and African-American Protestants, liberal Catholics, and Reform Jews. That’s an oversimplification but I think that’s how most people would have envisioned the demographic in its mid-twentieth century heyday.

Now the Pew Forum has released its findings on “how the faithful voted.”

I’m struck by the fact that, just like the general populace, this election seems to prefigure an entire shift in religious demographics. Rather than this being simply one dormant religious segment of public life reasserting itself, it is the continuation of subtle shifts in the entire public religious landscape. That might be overstating it. But the example I would point to is the generational shift we seem to be seeing among evangelicals. Younger evangelicals are much more drawn to issues of social justice and the environment (think Jim Wallis) than their older counterparts (think Jerry Falwell).

So much so that perhaps it’s no longer very helpful to think, at least in political-religious terms, of “left” and “right.” Time will tell.

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What a great discussion, about essentials…Thanks to you all.

My interpretation of the Calvinist doctrine of Election is really quite simple: GOD does all the work of salvation. GOD chooses who GOD chooses, GOD draws, GOD dispenses grace, GOD saves. My action (free will) is to accept or deny. That’s it.

On Scripture and Creation: I put it this way. What we are learning about DNA in particular is very, very interesting for the believer. Consider this: We have a Language, with only 4 letters (ACTG) and 24 three letter words (the essential amino acids). String those words together in the correct order, and we define ALL OF LIFE. To expand the metaphor, we humans each have 26 pairs of sentences within us (the chromosomes) that create in us all the diversity that is Humanity. Pretty awesome, to me. Evidence of the hand of God? It’s persuasive, to me.

Or, consider this: Genesis 1:11-12, and 1:18, in the Hebrew, say, respectively: “Let the EARTH bring forth green plants…and Let the WATERS teem with life…”. The fossil evidence suggests that there was, in a flash of geologic time the so-called Cambrian Explosion. Where, suddenly, the earth went from sterile to full of life. Evidence to support the scripture? Perhaps.

Last, consider this: On the subject of the 6 days of creation. A detailed understanding of Relativity and Time leads to a startling conclusion. From the perspective of an observer outside the Universe (God), Only 6 days would have passed for the entire period of cooling, coalescing, and springing forth of Life. For us on the inside of the Universe, many Billions of years have passed. There is, again, no contradiction.

Reference Material: “The Language of God” by Dr. Francis Collins and “The Science of God” by Gerald R. Schroeder.

— hs
2:14 pm November 15th, 2008

Thanks hs.

— Another
5:25 pm November 15th, 2008

Another,
I too am enjoying this.

First, I agree that trying to understand the supremacy of God is ultimately futile. But, we do know about Him the things that He has revealed. Does He not want us to at least attempt to convey Him to people that don’t know Him? How could we do that without understanding Him?

Debate over essentials should not become distractions because there is not much room for debate on the true essentials. If we are debating an essential doctrine either a) there’s not enough scriptural evidence to base any good doctrine on, so it cannot be essential, or b) one of us is not accepting a clear or obvious point of scripture. God in His wisdom gave the essentials in a pretty clear way because He wanted us to know it without question or confusion. Scripture screams the essentials and whispers the nonessentials. Let’s not scream where scripture whispers, but also not let the obvious truths that scripture screams of become unimportant whispers. I think a lot of squabbling would go away if that point were more often adhered to.

Lastly, you seem to take a word-faith theological approach that I cannot agree with. Your take on “the word” to me is very out of context. It’s well understood that the word (in John) or logos is a term for Jesus. I hate to be divisive, but there is bad teaching regarding spoken words and their power, and it ties into a misunderstanding of faith and the nature of God. Kenneth Copeland stuff. Just be careful with that line of theology.

Okay, if any of that was overly combative, I apologize.

— Mike
4:04 pm November 17th, 2008

No offense.

To share another thread. I had a revelation about the child schoolyard rhyme. “Stinks and stones may break my bones, but your words will never hurt me.”

I had always experienced that as a taunt. I suspect because it was always directed to me as a taunt because of something I may have said that hurt someone’s feelings. Words do seem to hurt us. Then I realized that I have the power to give them meaning.

Now I speak it as a promise. “…but your words will never hurt me.” I promise to never let words turn me against you, yours or mine. A promise of committment and faith.

As a believer, I am committed to listening for God’s voice in everything I hear.

All powerful people understand the power of the word, and it can be applied to any purpose. All things, good or bad, are delivered through words.

When I accept Jesus, I declare it. When I accept God, I declare it. If I do not declare these things for myself and the world, they do not exist out in the world. They are only in my head. Not an altogether safe neighborhood to be alone in.

I can make a case for a relationship with God, myself, and no others. As a Christian, I am committed to that relationship through Jesus. I engage in a conversation ongingly to that purpose. I can witness to that through my acts, and when I speak my intentions are clear to others. The integrity between my words and acts is my power as a being. Jesus showed me this.

Another childhood rhyme, “Jesus loves me, yes I know, cause the Bible tells me so.” For me, and I believe in the story of the Bible, Jesus is true to his word. I am grateful others have kept the faith with the word so that it is present for me.

— Another
9:03 am November 18th, 2008

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