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11.25.2008 9:27 am

A vote for McClellan as a starter

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Q: Great stuff, Commish. I think the answer to our starter problem is in our bullpen. Why does everyone forget about McClellan? Motte and Perez can be used in the setup role in place of McClellan and he can move to the rotation. And he is cheap.

A: Some good points, Steve. But, for that to happen, the Cardinals would have to get a veteran closer.

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Q: Given the Cards’ penchant for picking up “scrap heap” starting pitching, particularly guys who were once highly-regarded. . . what are the odds that they take a flier on Freddy Garcia, Tony Armas Jr., Carl Pavano, or Jason Jennings?  If any of these guys are healthy, they could likely be signed cheaply and could thrive in the Dave Duncan School of Pitching.
A: Andy, I’m thinking the Cardinals have enough of a rehab project  with Carpenter. I believe this is probably one of the few years that they don’t bring in several “scrap-heap” additions, as you say.

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Q: Hi Mr. Hummel;
It looks as if Edgar Renteria is set to sign a 2-year $18 million dollar contract with the SF Giants and Rafael Furcal has been offered a 4-year, $48 million contract with the Oakland A’s. That leaves Orlando Cabrera as the most attractive free agent out there who has yet to sign. Will these signings, (if they hold true), likely to push the Cards into a trade with Atlanta for Escobar or have they let the SS boat drift away because they did not move fast enough or aggressively enough to secure Renteria?  Is the Renteria signing a blow to the Cardinals middle infield scheme?

Thank you, Mr. Hummel

A: Dave, I don’t think that $48 million, four-year deal to Furcal is accurate. I’m still more inclined to think he’s going to get a shorter deal because of his back issues. The report on Renteria came out of a New York radio station, not always the most reliable source. If the $18 million for two years with the Giants is accurate, I feel that’s a little high to go for Renteria. But he won’t be signed anyway until after Dec. 1 when the Tigers don’t offer him salary arbitration. As far as the other avenue, I’m thinking the Cardinals still could trade for a shortstop. There are several possibilities out there _ Escobar, Greene, Crosby. The boat hasn’t sailed yet.

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Q: I worry the most about the Cards’ starting pitchers not being able to get deep enough into games. This inability results in a broken, worn-out bullpen by August or so. And I don’t care who’s in the pen. If they are overused, they become ineffective. Just look at Marmol last season. So I would like to see us sign a proven starter who can go deep in games, even if his ERA  isn’t that great. Mr. Hummel, who do you see as that type pitcher who might be available? Thanks for this great forum

A: Roger, these days the bullpens are so deep, pitchers generally are expected to work only six or seven innings. A Looper-type pitcher _ even if it were he _ wouldn’t be the worst addition although the Cardinals are probably looking to upgrade here. They seem satisfied to wait until later this week or next week when more medical information about Chris Carpenter is available. We can discuss this at greater length then.

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- Commish,

I know that this might be slightly off-topic of “Hot Stove Issues,” but do you have any feel for the upcoming Rule 5 draft on December 7th? I generally liked the selection of Barton last year, and was curious if you knew of any of the club’s plans for the draft? Thanks for your continued coverage and response.

— Michael
9:59 am November 25th, 2008

Commish,

I read many posts assuming Looper would only be as good (or worse) than last years’ version. Is it possible he would be much better with the experience gained in a starters role last year? He hasn’t been a starter very long. If I’m not mistaken he pitched some really good games this past year. If he was more consistent and eliminate the really bad games his numbers would be much better. Am I wrong?

— Ed C
10:21 am November 25th, 2008

Commish,

What is (seemingly) everyone’s obsession with Khalil Greene? He was injured for the final 2 months of the 2008 season. He only hit a Kennedy-esque .213 last year and in his only full season, he hit .254. I understand he’s a good fielder, but has no Gold Gloves to show for it. Why would anyone want to actually give up a player in a trade for Khalil Greene when we could resign Izturis for cheaper? What does the front office see there that I don’t, or is that just ignorant fans’ speculation? Thanks for your insight.

— Peter
12:00 pm November 25th, 2008

PETER,

FINALLY, someone else that is just as utterly confused as I am about the K. Greene infatuation. I think the only thing he does offer is over other options is “power”, but that’s not enough for me.

I’m also a good bit lost on the Crosby pitch. To me it’s much the same as K. Greene. Although Crosby strikes out less, doesn’t translate to getting on more, but at least he K’s less…..it’s a start, I guess.

— JonnyG
3:44 pm November 25th, 2008

Remember all the outcries when AP did not win the Golden Glove ? all the notes saying what a phony award it was ? and now some people are ruling out SS candidates because they do not have Golden Gloves. Typical.

Commish, can you explain the love for Barton ? He didn’t seem to have much of a season either here or on rehab in the minors, he can’t throw, and he doesn’t play the OF very well, at least as far as we have seen him up here. and he didn’t hit a whole lot. What is is that people (including TLR, whose opinion is the only one that counts) see in him ?

— hinton
4:02 pm November 25th, 2008

Thanks Rick, I would be interested to know how the cards measured up against the rest of the league in quality starts. I keep thinking we fell short there resulting in our pen’s ineffectiveness. I’m also worried regarding our inability to score in the later innings. If you were the g.m., what would be your overall off season strategy? Where would you put your emphasis? I realize that this may be a better subject for a full article, but in general terms maybe you could rank your objectives. Thanks Mr. Hummel.

— roger from tahoe
4:27 pm November 25th, 2008

-commish,

I know the cardinals have many needs but why is Ludwick seemed to be mentioned in every deal that the cardinals try to make. I think all rumors have at least a little truth to them. I would hate to seen how bad they would of been if he wouldn’t of been around so why do they seem so willing to get rid of him?

— james
9:10 pm November 25th, 2008

First a comment, then a question.

I became a Cardinal fan during the World Series of 1964. I was nine years old. While at school, our teacher allowed us to watch at least some of that day’s game during class. They also had a TV set up in the gym with the game on. I was hooked! I carried around a radio every summer for the next ten years, listening to Jack Buck and Harry Caray/Bob Starr. This probably would never have happened had the World Series been played at night ! Day games pull in young fans that not only can’t watch the late games, but otherwise would never have thought about it!

My question is about Jose Oquendo. Is there a reason why the Cardinal brass have not promised him the managerial job when Tony La Russa steps down? I have a great deal of admiration and respect for our “Secret Weapon,” and can’t understand why St. Louis would just let him go somewhere else. If Jose knew the job was his, maybe he would be willing to wait for it.

Your thoughts?

Thanks,
Ron of Springfield MO

— einnor
9:51 am November 26th, 2008

Good afternoon Mr. Hummel;

The Cardinal fan base is quite remarkable. If not for the fans, the game would lose a lot of its glammor. Cardinal fans fill the park up nightly. Putting a contending team on the field generates fan base. What do you think the attendance would be like if the Cards began a trend where they could not/did not make the playoffs? In all of your years covering the Cardinals what have you observed about the Cardinal fan base that strikes you? What are your thoughts about Cardinal fans in reference to other comparable markets that you have seen over the years? In general, do sportswriters love the teams they report on or does their inside observations sour them. Do you have a particular year you really enjoyed covering the Cards? Who was/is a guy you liked/like to cover? I am very interested to read what you have to say. Forgive me if I picked your brain to much. If it makes it easier, you can just tell a good story…I’d love to hear some…;>).

Thank you very much Mr. Hummel…and the good Lord Bless you with the riches of His goodness! “You sir” are just another reason why I am proud to be a Cardinal fan!

— Dave in Topeka, KS
1:51 pm November 26th, 2008

All due respect, but Roger is correct. Last year, the Cardinal starters had a whopping 50 games where starters went 5.0 innings or less– often a lot less. The Cardinals do need another more dependable 6-7 inning starter. It is entirely logical to assume that when your # 7 bullpen guy is making significant appearances– the bullpen will suffer.

— Allen
9:40 pm November 27th, 2008