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05.27.2009 12:13 am

Lohse a Likely Scratch from Friday Start

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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MILWAUKEE - If he didn’t have bad luck, Kyle Lohse would have no luck at all.

The Cardinals will likely announce today that they are scratching Lohse from Friday’s start against the San Francisco Giants due to forearm weakness stemming from a hit by pitch suffered last Saturday against the Kansas City Royals.

Lohse cut short a side session Tuesday afternoon when his arm failed to recover from a series of pitches. Pitching coach Dave Duncan confirmed after the Cardinals’ 8-1 win over the Milwaukee Brewers that Joel Pineiro may be moved up from Saturday to take Lohse’s start. Pineiro would be appearing on regular rest since the Cardinals are off Thursday in San Francisco. “It’s something we’re looking at,” Duncan said. “Unless something changes tomorrow, it looks likely we’ll [scratch Lohse].”

Lohse’s unavailability would preclude the Cardinals from sending out a pitcher when they activate outfielder Ryan Ludwick for the game. The Cardinals continue to operate with eight relievers and only four bench players, one of whom, Rick Ankiel, has been off limits the last two games due to renewed right shoulder stiffness.

Lohse and Duncan insisted the pitcher’s bruised forearm is expected to force him to skip only one start.

“I was optimistic going in but I don’t think I convinced them,” Lohse said after his bullpen. “I guess something could change tomorrow but I’m not getting my hopes up.”

Lohse would make the June 2 start at home against the Cincinnati Reds; otherwise, the club would have to find a stand-in.

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I hate the designated hitter, but between Carpenter and now Lohse I’m beginning to wonder.

— Fuhrig
8:06 am May 27th, 2009

There are some arms getting a little out of shape in the pen. Time for one of those games where there is no starting pitcher, just 8 or 9 relievers, just to knock some of the dust off the uniforms.

What’s up with this ‘body fat’ business with Wallace? I guess the food in Memphis is more appealing than the big contract in the bigs? I see why the Cards FO doesn’t think he has learned to be professional enough.

Glaus’ bank account gets refilled every two weeks, I suspect. But, next year? I suppose he just needs to pass someone’s physical to get another big contract. I think that once a player gets to a certain level of compensation, it should be his responsibility to provide himself with disability insurance. Any time off more than 15 games for whatever reason, then, the club stops paying and the d.i. kicks in, for the term of the insurance contract only, probably no more than two years. Premiums based on experience, naturally.

— xword
8:25 am May 27th, 2009

I missed the “body fat” comment on Wallace. Are they saying he is getting pudgey at AAA?

— John
8:38 am May 27th, 2009

I’ve thought the same thing likely regarding the DH, Fuhrig

— rich
8:48 am May 27th, 2009

I would like to see Wallace for myself before I trade him away. I would like to get a real idea if the guy will ever be able to play defense at the major league level (other than first base). If what the kid has done so far in the minors, then he has an amazing bat—but is it enough of a bat to make up for a weak glove due to his oversized trunk of a body? If he’s the real deal, is he worth too much to sacrifice in a trade for someone like Derosa? Not sure of DeRosa’s age, but he sure seems like the answer to 3b. On the other side, what would be wrong with bringing Wallace up to play 3b (assuming he maintains this pace he’s on at Memphis). If his glove is even somewhat useful, and he strokes the ball like he has been, he could be the spark from the right side of the plate the lineup needs to get firing again.

— gateway-broker
9:08 am May 27th, 2009

If Wallace continues to tear up AAA pitching, it’s time to bring him up and stick him at 3b for a few games to see if he can be a viable defensive player in the NL, and to hopefully be the hot bat to help get this lineup start scoring more runs. If he fails he fails. I just can’t believe a guy would be ruined forever if he fails on his first shot at the big league level. He’s advanced so rapidly it would almost be expected to fail here…that being said, he might be adequate in the field while helping this lineup out at the same time. He likely would either prove he can play in the NL, or prove that he is a great hitter that needs to be in the AL—making him attractive to someone like Cleveland in a deal for DeRosa.

— gateway-broker
9:14 am May 27th, 2009

“Lohse’s unavailability would preclude the Cardinals from sending out a pitcher when they activate outfielder Ryan Ludwick for the game.”
This is the worst part of the situation. We don’t need 8 freaking bullpen arms now that Carp is back, especially considering Ank’s injury situation and the diminished state of Khalil.

— Terrapin03
9:51 am May 27th, 2009

Gateway- You are kidding about trading Wallace for DeRosa right? Mark DeRosa is a utility infielder. Granted a very good one, but not even close to what Wallace projects to be as a ballplayer.

— CardsFan12
9:52 am May 27th, 2009

Gateway-broker, Wallace bats left-handed, not right. Anyway, I wouldn’t trade the Walrus for anything. If the Cards are smart, they’ll keep Wallace, bring him up and put him on some weight conditioning program.

— Louie Bird 17
10:10 am May 27th, 2009

As much as I hate to see Lohse miss a start, I think it must be done. The kind of unceasing disruptions/incidents that Lohse has experienced can wear on a person over time. He could probably use the down time for his arm to heal and to be able to take a little mental break. I would rather have him miss one start now, than be unable to compete in the stretch run because he is worn out from all the weird stuff that keeps happening to him. And why in the world are opposing pitchers pitching so aggressively to him that he has been hit by pitches twice in less than 2 months anyway?

— LPD
10:13 am May 27th, 2009

Please no DH in the Nationl League. I too am so sorry about Lohse missing a start but we will survive. Once we get a DH in the National League we will be changed to American League baseball forever. Lohse will recover and hopefully will be fine for his next start and all will be well in Birdland. You guys sound like Cub fans the way you are so worried this early in the season. As much as I dislike Tony I do applaud him and Duncan for keeping this team on a winning plan.

— woody
10:44 am May 27th, 2009

Tony should have let Lohse pitch to one more batter after he got hit so he could even things up.

— Steve511
12:27 pm May 27th, 2009

I was at the game that Lohse pitched on Saturday the 23rd.

He was in his element.

However when he was “beaned” on the forearm/elbow of his right arm, I could tell he was in pain.

Taking him out on 1 or 2 scheduled starts is probably a good thing. Don’t underestimate Duncan the pitching coach.

That hit looked bad.

— Dave
3:34 pm May 27th, 2009

What?.is this the same Derosa?..a good player?..heck no.i would rather keep thurston and barden than have de-crapa ex cub wearing the birds on the bat…..heck no..rosa must not come….
I got my tickets….the boys better not let me down this weekend….bad enough i have to go to the lousy city…but.i make the journey once a year for my cards….
just as 95% of the guys in sf…the giants suck….i forsee a big weekend from MR. AP…basically has two days off with todays early game and friday start time at 715.

— JTnCALI
5:50 pm May 27th, 2009

Trading Brett Wallace for Mark Derosa 34 years old would be a joke. Also, Memphis has Brett Wallace listed on the roster at 6-2 205. This is a joke, the guy is like 260 and has gained even more weight than when he was listed in College last year at 245. The guy appears way too big (thick bodied)to play 3rd base in the bigs. No way.

— RedbirdBJ
11:24 pm May 27th, 2009