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12.09.2008 9:55 am

Cardinals, other clubs, agents “getting to the crossroads”

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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LAS VEGAS — Well past midnight at the Bellagio casino floor and clustered around the Baccarat Bar the buzz was whether or not the New York Mets had finalized a deal with closer Francisco Rodriguez. It was certain that they had offered — first two years and then, reportedly, a third — but Blackberries were clicking and iPhones glowing as MLB officials and reporters waited for witching-hour word that a contract was done.

Everyone appears to be eager for the market’s tipping point.

“My message to the market is I don’t have to wait,” St. Louis Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak said. “Given the lack of movement, the asking prices are still robust. Yet, the market itself wouldn’t bear that (price) given the lack of activity.”

Mozeliak, in his chat last night with the local media, described his team and others “getting to the crossroads” of deal. Later a industry source described it thusly: “Soon we’ll have a real idea if teams are ready to deal or still just interested in talking.” The market, like these Baseball Winter Meetings, were waiting for the first big-ticket deal to kickoff the festivities. Rodriguez would be that signing, setting quickly the market for closers and helping to define the market in general (especially when it comes to the length of his deal). SI.com Jon Heyman wrote early this morning that it’s close.

As colleague Joe Strauss wrote in this morning’s paper, the Cardinals acknowledged that their starting lineup is “in essence” set when it comes to opening day and their position players. Added Mozeliak: “There’s a high probability that that is what it looks like on April 6th.” This is that lineup:

  1. Adam Wainwright, RHP
  2. Yadier Molina, C
  3. Albert Pujols, 1B
  4. Adam Kennedy, 2B
  5. Troy Glaus, 3B
  6. Khalil Greene, SS
  7. Skip Schumaker, LF
  8. Rick Ankiel, CF
  9. Ryan Ludwick, RF

The one area in flux is the outfield. The Cardinals are shopping one of their lefthanded-hitting outfielders, and Ankiel has drawn attention, notably from the Braves. The Cardinals what a pitcher in exchange — and various rumors has them talking Blaine Boyer or Mike Gonzalez, according to Fox Sports, or Charlie Morton — for any of the outfielders they may deal. Mozeliak described the trade market for a ninth-inning arm as difficult. He said it’s unlikely they would find a closer that route, though Strauss also suggested that a deal could be had for a setup reliever who could close.

Atlanta manager Bobby Cox said things have gone well with John Smoltz recovery and that “the interest with John and us is (him) as a starter.” He then went onto add that he saw Gonzalez as their closer and that he would benefit from coming into the season with the label.

“Nothing but upside for him,” Cox said to a group of us reporters. “He goes in knowing he’s the closer.”

And that brings us back to Rodriguez.

If the record-setting closer is close — completed? — to that deal with the Mets then mill will begin churning on where Brian Fuentes fits, where Kerry Wood fits and where exactly the Cardinals can go to find a closer. And if it will cost them someone from that “in essence” starting lineup.

“I don’t want to settle,” Mozeliak said. “I can be patient.”

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How much value does Rick Ankiel actually have in a trade? He is a free agent after this season, and there are plenty of legitimate concerns regarding his health?

Same can be said for Chris Duncan. What is his health status heading into 2009?

I do get a sense, after reading Strauss’s story, that the Cards are really trying to look for a way to get Rasmus a spot on the team in 2009. That’s very encouraging.

I’d like to see Felipe Lopez re-signed to a one year deal. At this point in their careers both Adam Kennedy and Lopez are fighting for jobs. the Cards could create some healthy competition at second by bringing back Lopez. Thoughts? But, if this was our starting infield on opening day, then I’d be fine with that infield lineup.

— emc2013
11:31 am December 9th, 2008

Deliberate and opportunistic should be our mantra. Seize the initiative…don’t let the market come to us. Be bold as well as deliberate. Seems to me focusing on front-line pitching and considering both trades and free agent opportunities gives us flexibility. I like names like Brad Penny and Oliver Perez, but I don’t see why A.J. Burnett or Jake Peavey should be off the table. Moving Ankiel or Schumaker makes sense …if we get a durable and productive starter or capable closer. Toronto (with Hoffman and Downs) has a ready supply of arms, and we have a chance to deal for Huston Street of Colorado should the right package present itself. Our hitting is fine–if Pujols and Glaus are healthy and Ludwick is not a flash in the pan. Greene solidifes the shortstop position. Now we need (really need) another starter to go with Wainwright, Lohse and Wellemeyer–and God willing a healthy Chris Carpenter. Our bullpen killed us last year…that has to be fixed. We must have lost at least 15 games after the 8th inning–championships are not won that way. I still think we can compete with the Cubs and build a foundation for the next 5 years, but we must be bold, deliberate and opportunistic. Money need not be the overriding issue…witness the success stories of recent years and the demise of the storied Yankees.

— James Dillard
11:46 am December 9th, 2008

For once, the baseball powers don’t hold all the cards and the market if slowly shaping itself. I commend John Mozeliak for holding true to his belief that you don’t have to give in to the market, let the market give in to you. It worked with Greene. That trade may go down in Cardinal history as a real steal of a deal. Only time will tell but if you consider the upside to the Greene trade, it may end up being totally lopsided in the Cardinals favor. Good Job John!! Now, if you could just find a sense of humor.

— john5150
11:54 am December 9th, 2008

Why would the Cards be “talking” Boyer or Morton? Aren’t they both right-handed relievers?

— TheBirdIsTheWord
1:08 pm December 9th, 2008