Wow and it was probably pandering at its best. Did she ask them how much of the poor middle class worker’s’ dues they will be spending on Barack’s campaign?

I wonder why so many of them were able to make the trek to Washington, maybe it is because they are mostly out of work and sitting in the union halls right now.

That’s what happens when you price yourself out of a job and stiffle the economy. Can you imagine trying to build a home/business or even a school etc. Prevailing Wage in Missouri is $52.63/hour for Electricians, $40.27/hr for a Carpenter, $35.51/hour for a laborer (unskilled), $50.68/hr for a plumber.

I would be telling kids to drop out of college, quit school, go to work in the construction trades. Hell, it pays ALOT more than the average kid getting out of college. CNN reports that the average college grad with degrees in Chemical Engineering is making $54,000, Electrical Engineering $52,000, Computer Engineering $51,000 Business Admin $39,000. and it goes down from there. So if an 18 year old high school drop out works a year as an unskilled laborer diggin ditches, then he made more than even the most highly educated college grad. And the unions complain about pay parity….

What you are failing to mention Union Facts is that your “wages” include fring benefits and varies throughout the state of Missouri. The prevailing/hourly wage less fringes for an electrician in the St. Louis area is $32.60 per hour.

http://www.dolir.mo.gov/ls/prevailingwage/general_wage_order.pdf page 42

Union electricians must complete 8,000 hours of training and starting pay is less than half of what a journeyman electrician earns.

All in all I would say that is is pretty good advice to join a union. But at the same time I’d say go to college, become a CEO and earn an income like William McGuire CEO of UnitedHealth Group’s hourly wages were $62,400. Even at your inflated hourly rate of $52.63 per hour an electrician would have to work 1,185 hours to make what he makes in one hour!

So dropping out of college is probably not a good career choice.

Centrist Federal law prohibits unions donating their members dues to politicians.

Union Facts - You neglected to mention that you get a higher quality ditch when you have a union laborer dig it.

Bubba Union - Whether it is cash wages or bloated benefit packages, that’s what it costs somebody to hire a union worker. And on top of those absurd wages, your work rules drive up costs even higher. It takes three different union people just to carry a slide projector into America’s Center and set it up for a presentation. You guys stand around leaning on your shovels and expect us to just pay, pay, pay. Forget it, Bubba Union - you can starve for all I care.

And as far as your denial that unions donate to politicians … well, just look at any Democrat’s campaign contribution disclosure. There’s union money floating around all over the place. The federal prohibition is a narrow one, and your union leaders are clever enough to get around it.

I won’t be going hungry Nick, I’m a very well trained professional tradesman. I do more work in less time with less waste than a lesser skilled SCAB.

The money donated to politicians is not money from union dues. That money comes from a voluntary fund. I know it’s hard for you to believe but even us dumb union members believe that we should have a voice in the political process.

Your right our wages are bloated………….compared to China where they pay 50 cents per hour. Recently in the business section of the Post Dispatch there was an article from the China Chamber of Commerece that says they are worried about losing their wage advantage because their wages are increasing 9 to 12% per year. They are losing their 50 cent an hour jobs to Viet Nam and India.

In your opinion what would be a good wage for the man that wires the hospital where you may have to go? Or the man that is responsible for the pipes that carry toxic gasses throughout the same hospital? These jobs are not low skilled. We have to complete an 8,000 hour apprenticeship program.

You failed to mention bloated CEO pay.

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