Why don’t we encourge drivers to pay more attention and follow the rules of the road, which include making way for bike riders?

Where streets are laid out in a grid pattern, there are alternate routes to get where you are going. When all the side streets just curve around within subdivisions, you can’t use them and you are left with only the main roads to get where you are going.

Solution: Sue the developers, force them to rebuild the developements in a COMPLETE GRID pattern.

I am all for drivers and riders sharing the road, but I am tired of hearing that drivers need to pay more attention and follow rules. Countless times I have seen bikers riding down the center of a lane at 15 - 20mph holding up traffic, and when they get up to a stoplight, simply proceed through regardless of green or red status. Bikers need to pay attention, wear clothes that make them more visible, and be more curteous to drivers who are trying to pass them without running them over.

Dave,
Everyone needs to follow the rules and it is indeed a two way street, but do not blame the minority of bike riders for the rest of them.

For example, today on my way into the city I saw a yellow VW weaving in and out of traffic, run a stop sign, and fail to yield. Should we ban or disregard all yellow cars? All VWs? Of course not.

At a time when roads are expected to see more congestion we should be encouraging alternate modes of transportation. These must include, carpooling, bicycling and public transportation.

Fatcyclist.com

About a month ago, I wrote a little something called “An Open Letter to the Passenger in the Green SUV Who Screamed as He Went By Yesterday.” Basically, it was my reaction to some guy who — as a prank — screamed at me from his car as he went by. This post clicked with a lot of riders, and it still gets comments from time to time, most of them from people sharing similar experiences, as well as outrage that someone would do something so dangerous.

Yesterday, though, I got a different kind of comment on that post:

I live in Colorado and every weekend (when the weather is nice) there are cyclists EVERYWHERE!!!! The area I live in has only two-lane roads and NONE of the cyclists are going anywhere near the speed limit much less the speed of traffic. They do not follow the traffic laws, they do not ride near the side of the road, and they do not even move over to the side of the road when there is a line of cars behind them. However, they do weave in and out of cars waiting at stop signals, they do impede the flow of traffic, they do cause drivers to tale unnecessary and sometimes dangerous ‘evasive action’ just to get past them, in short they’re RUDE… I don’t condone any violence or retaliatory action… but please, please FIND A F$%*@ING trail or a bike path and get the hell out of my way. — Becky, August 25, 9:53 AM

My initial reaction was to completely tear Becky apart, line by line. It would be easy; Becky leaves herself wide open. I mean, calling cyclists “RUDE” right before you say “FIND A F$%*@ING trail or a bike path and get the hell out of my way” is one of the most beautiful examples of irony I have ever seen.

OK, I guess I still intend to bust Becky’s chops a little. But that’s not all I’m going to do. I’m also going to acknowledge that she has some valid points, and try to see both sides of the story. I’m going to do my best to look through both sides of the windshield.

What Becky (and Other People in Cars) Needs to Understand About Cyclists
Becky might not be such a strong candidate for anger management counseling if she considered the following:

* You’ll see things differently if you try riding a bike. Most cyclists have a pretty good idea of what’s going on in drivers’ heads, because most cyclists are drivers sometimes. The reverse isn’t true, however. Becky, your perspective might change a little bit if you got out of your car and onto a bike. You might notice different things about the road. You might perceive speed differently. You might even find that cars break laws and endanger cyclists as often as (or maybe more often than) cyclists break laws and endanger cars.
* Some people act stupidly, whether in a car or on a bike. The people who do stupid things on bikes — and yes, Becky, I know they’re out there, because I’ve seen them too — also do stupid things when they’re in cars. Or when they’re at work. Or whatever. Some people are just stupid. Don’t go applying the specific to the general, OK, Becky? Saying no cyclist obeys traffic laws because some idiot nearly got himself killed by shooting out in front of you is like me saying all SUVs are populated by teenage homicidal idiots because one tried to startle me into the guardrail. Or like me saying all pickups are populated by homicidal cowboys because a few have tried to swipe me with their side mirrors. Or like me saying that all cars are populated by homicidal drunk idiots because a couple have thrown beer bottles in front of my bike as they go by.
* Sometimes we have a good reason for being out in the road instead of hugging the side. It’s possible — make that probable — there’s glass or scattered nails on the edge of the road. You can’t see all the crud from your car, but it’s there.
* Cyclists have a right to be on the road. We have a legal right to be there, and moreover, it’s the right place for us to be from a common sense point of view. If a road cyclist gets on a bike path, he’s a danger to pedestrians and cyclists on cruiser bikes — we’re just going too fast for foot and slow bike traffic. Try to stop thinking of cyclists as being on “your” road. We’re all paying taxes.
* We are afraid you aren’t looking for us, and that you’ll kill us. My friend dug has been hit twice by people in cars who weren’t looking. I’ve known two cyclists who have been killed by people in cars who weren’t looking. So, some cyclists have adopted the tactic of riding right in the middle of the road, where you can’t miss them. You may be inconvenienced, but you won’t sideswipe and kill someone. Isn’t that nice?
* We’re not causing you to take “unnecessary and sometimes dangerous evasive action.” If it’s unnecessary, it’s optional. You’re doing it because you want to. Guess what: your unnecessary evasive action you’re blaming on the cyclist is really just you being a poor driver. Sorry about that.

What Cyclists Need to Understand about Becky (and Other People in Cars)
I believe every cyclist already knows the following, so this is mostly just a reminder. And I should be clear: I don’t think the below list is true of every driver. In fact, it’s not true of most drivers. But you’ve got to assume it’s true of every driver anyway, because you never know which car is being driven by Becky.

* People in cars remember every stupid thing they have ever seen a cyclist do, then assume every cyclist does that all the time. Becky here has clearly seen some cyclists do some stupid, illegal things, and now — right or wrong — she’s got it in her head that all cyclists do illegal things all the time. So, those of you doing stupid, illegal things: cut it out. You’re building up road rage in people like Becky, and they aren’t really careful about who they vent their anger at. And I’ll take it one step further: those of us who have friends who take stupid, illegal risks while riding need to tell them to cut it out; they’re souring the automotive world on bikes (That’s big talk for me; I have a couple riding friends who I’d need to lecture; so far I never have).
* People in cars are bugged when cyclists ride right on the line of the shoulder. And rightly so. I see this all the time when I’m driving — cyclists have a nice wide shoulder, but they ride right on the line. If you can get over, do.
* People in cars think you’re much wider than you actually are. They think they can’t pass you, even if they can. Signal them forward to let them know they have room.
* People in cars expect you to adhere to laws much more closely than they do themselves. Cars roll stop signs all the time, but they resent bikes doing it. And they hate seeing bikes worm their way through traffic — it reminds them that they’re just sitting there, and that the $45 they just spent on gasoline is just floating up into the atmosphere, not actually moving them anywhere.
* People in cars look where they’re used to looking for things they’re used to looking at. Cyclists aren’t where they expect, aren’t what they expect, and aren’t going at a rate they expect. If you haven’t made eye contact, assume you have not been seen. Seriously.
* People in cars aren’t enjoying the ride like you are. They’re in a hurry. They resent being delayed even for a few seconds. If you can get out of the way and let them pass, do.
* People in cars convert their worry about being in an accident into anger. Lots of people in cars have had near misses with cyclists. That scares them — most of them don’t want to kill us, after all — and then that fright turns into anger.

OK, I see my attempt to be even-handed about Becky’s post wound up a little bit lopsided. Maybe I should have just said, “Hey, we’ve all got to do our best to get along. You chill out, and I’ll do my best to be safe and legal.”

Maybe you’d like to try your hand at replying to Becky yourself.

Many people do not use their bike only for exercise. There is a substantial community in the St Louis area who uses their bikes for transportation.

MODOT is the MO Dept of TRANSPORTATION, not the MO Dept of Cars. Bikes ARE transportation and should be treated as such. A throughly conceived transportation system would take into consideration all modes of transport; be it a car, bike, bus, motorcycle or scooter. All the state of MO seems to consider is transport only by car.

If people want to use bicycles as means of transportation the same as a car then they should be licensed and insured just as the rest of us have to be. They should have all of the very same restrictions and limitations of people who ride motorcycles AND be wearing some sort of identifiable vest or flagging of some sort. I find it ridiculous that people think they should have some kind of special privilege above people that are in motor vehicles on which the road was built for in the first place. I don’t drive in your park or woods so keep off my street is my opinion. Obviously a lot of you don’t agree with that but there are plenty that do. This share the road crap has got to go in my opinion. For the life of me I can not figure out why someone who wants to get out and excercise would choose to do so while purposely putting themselves in harms way of 4000 lbs of speeding metal all the while sucking in the exhaust fumes that they leave behind. Then there’s the separate but equally disturbing point of the apparel that some of these people where. Spandex is not for everyone and should only be made up to a certain size. Call me shallow or overly cynical, maybe too judgemental. I think I have some very valid points. Bikes are no place for congested traffic, end of story; this is not something that needs to be debated.
And I’ll add to that, especially with impatient people who have poor driving skills and short attention spans and tempers.

“…this share the road crap has got to go…”

I agree. Get Jimmyrussel off the road

“…4000 lbs of speeding metal..”

because he admits to breaking the law by speeding

“…keep off my street…”

Where is your proof of ownership?

“….bikes are no place for congested traffic…”

Poor grammar. Also, more bikes = less congested traffic

“…impatient people who have poor driving skills and short attention spans
and tempers…”

Now THERE is the real danger. To EVERYONE on the road.

I commute to work by bicycle whenever I can because I like to do my
part to save the environment for the future (i.e. for YOUR kids) and because
I am a true patriot that minimizes the amount of dollar$ that I send overseas to
countries that do not have the best interest of the USA in mind.

I love my country

I love my world.

Therefore, I cycle

Why do cyclists desire to ride at the busiest times on the busiest streets down the middle ?? Is it some sort of thrill or what; I just don’t get it. Go to the Katy Trail, use your subdivision streets or drive on the shoulder if you must. Tired of seeing your tighty pants…

“Why do cyclists desire to ride at the busiest times on the busiest streets down the middle..”

Why do auto drivers desire to drive at the busiest times on the busiest streets down the
middle?

If there is room for cars to pass safely, I ride far to the right.

If there is NOT room to safely pass, then I ride in the middle of the lane,
which I have the legal right to do.

Why do auto drivers talk on their cell phones, put on their make-up, eat
food, and read while driving? Don’t they know that all is dangerous?

Or do they just not care who they kill?

Maybe a cyclist.

Maybe an elderly pedestrian

Maybe a “mom” and her baby in a mini van.

Why do auto drivers habitually exceed the legal maximum speed limits.

Why do auto drivers run red lights?

Why do auto drivers change lanes without signaling?

Why do auto drivers fail to yield when they are required to?

Why do auto drivers continue to send oil money to the mid-east where it
can be used by terrorists against us?

Why do auto drivers continue to send money to Hugo down in Venizuela?

Don’t auto drivers care about the future of the USA???

Don’t auto drivers care about the world they are leaving their children?

Evidently not, from the responses posted here.

Fred, Do you own a car or just a bike…ny

Why are we here on this planet ???

Cyclists just like to rub elbows with the affluent that is why they love to travel their roads….every Sat they come to ride down curvy Kehrs Mill in Clarkson Valley.

Hey auto drivers: Here is the guy who is selling you gasoline:

http://tinyurl.com/2y94de

If not him, then your fuel comes from Vladimir “Honest Eyes” Putin.

Or maybe Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran

Yes, all friends of the USA.

And all three mighty happy that you send them money.

LOTs of money.

Here is the word of the day:

“Treason”

“Aiding , abetting or giving comfort to our enemies at a time of war. ”

What are you willing to do for the good of your country?

Are you willing to drastically reduce your dependence on oil?

Or is that just too inconvenient?

Are you willing to plant your butt on a bicycle for the good of national security,
or is it too much work to actually propel yourself down the road?

I guess the rest of the world is correct: the US has gone “soft.”

We rely on foreign-sourced oil.

We rely on foreign-sourced financing to cover our balloning national debt.

We are at the mercy of countries that don’t give a d___ about us.

And all you people are worried about is being slightly inconvenienced by
someone on a bicycle.

Nero fiddles while Rome burns.

U.S. solders are dying in the MId-East in an attempt to secure oil supplies
for us.

The LEAST that you can do is minimize how much of it you burn.

The very least.

Fred aka Trixie’s dad on Speed Racer, you’re just plain WEIRD!

Do you have an electric car or any, Ralph Nader?

How about New York, maybe that would fit your lifestyle better.

QUIT WITH ALL THE SENTENCES DOUBLESPACED RETARD.

I’ve got to reiterate what others have said here - If anybody should be encouraged to do anyhting, it’s drivers who should be encouraged to a) understand right of way rules and b) treat driving with the seriousness that it desreves.
Bill Burton from Brentwood makes a pretty classic mistake in misunderstanding the nature of running and cycling as exercise. He, seems to think it’s a little thing we runners and cyclists do for 10 or 20 minutes at a time, just for giggles. In truth, many runners and cyclists are spending one to three hours on the road. We choose roads because of where they take us - the circuits of known distances, the hills of known grade, and for their unobstructed, dry, and regular surfaces. The few blocks that fitness ignorant drivers see us on give them no insight into the 10 or 20 miles we’re running that day, or the 20 to 50 miles we’re cycling. Suggesting we go get our exercise in the park, or over in the alley is not helpful.
Just as runners and cyclists need to obey the rules of the road, drivers need to pay attention and yield the right of way as the law stipulates. When we’re doing what we’re supposed to, us runners and cyclists have the right of way. End of story.

Freddie,

Do you have a lawn that you utilize gasoline to cut?
Do you heat your house, or I might say apartment?

You cyclists just do NOT belong in the streets created for Vehicles not Bikes; this is the year 2008.

Your little joy rides on your bikes are placing drivers who belong on the road and utilize the road to drive to work and school at risk of head-on accidents.

But the bike riders will get the brunt of the hit. If it’s worth the risk, go for it.

“You cyclists just do NOT belong in the streets created for Vehicles not Bikes; this is the year 2008.
Comment by Saddam — February 10th, 2008 at 8:48 pm”

Yes, the year IS 2008 - it is time that your thinking progresses past the childish mentality of “MINE! NOT YOURS!” The law allows us to be there, end of story. The least you can do is try to NOT kill me. What is the worst that could happen to you - get held up 5 seconds while you wait to pass? Learn patience, and obey the law.

“Your little joy rides on your bikes are placing drivers who belong on the road and utilize the road to drive to work and school at risk of head-on accidents.

But the bike riders will get the brunt of the hit. If it’s worth the risk, go for it.
Comment by Ed — February 10th, 2008 at 8:57 pm”

The only risk of a head-on accident is when you recklessly and incompetently pass me at the wrong time. If you are smart and use COMMON SENSE, then you have nothing to worry about. This isn’t like passing an 18 wheeler.

By the way, I use my bike to get to work AND have used it to get to school. 1500 miles a year that isn’t spent in the car adds up. Remember - the ability to own and operate a car isn’t a right, it is a PRIVILEGE.

It doesn’t take much to be a decent human being in these situations - like I already said, it just takes a smidgen of patience on BOTH of our parts!

There is plenty of room on the roads for everybody WHO IS WILLING TO SHARE THE ROAD!
The roads belong to everybody.

Patience is a virtue!

Bicycling is a healthier mode of transportation for the riders and the rest of us.

There is plenty of room on the roads for everybody, let’s not get carried away and blame each other.

Share the road please.

Peace.

Next time a bicycle ’slows you down’ think about how much time you spend waiting in a drive through waiting for your fat burger.

And JK if you could do something to smooth out Kehr’s Mill on the hill by Marquette High maybe we could go 4 or 5 wide there on Sunday. Hahahahaha.

Look up why we have paved roads and pneumatic tires

My work location will be moving soon. I will be going from a 20 mile commute (each way) to less than 5 (each way). I am looking forward to the change. Oddly enough, it is the car/truck/SUV drivers reminding me the most why I look forward to the change: driving seems to make people angry and aggressive.

My bike will be my exercise, commute to work, and chill out time.

The most amusing thing I remember about cars and exercise is the recreational center at college. It was perhaps a 15 minute walk from the dorms to the rec center. People who were too lazy to walk up stairs (they took the elevator), or too lazy to walk to the rec center (they drove) prided themselves on their exercise time.

It is not just kids who are getting fat and lazy by not getting on a bicycle once in a while.

Simian

Wow. So many posts for a letter on bikers. That’s great! Maybe St. Louis can go multi-modal after all.

I’ll just throw in my two cents. We should all have multiple transportation choices. More choice is better, right? Some roads have bike lanes and Bike St. Louis is expanding into St. Louis County. Surely there’s a way we can balance out the needs of bikers and autos. I thought Marvin’s early comments were instructive - bikers and those in cars/trucks/SUVs need to cut the nonsense and practice defensive riding/driving. We’d all be better for it.

Besides the selfishness (”get of MY road”) that runs as a common thread through most of the pro-motor-vehicle-only letters/comments, there also seems to be this implicit assumption that people on the roads who are not in a motor vehicle are performing some sort of recreation or non-critical function, while all those in a motor vehicle are attending to some higher purpose, thus granting the motor vehicle some sort of favored status on the road. Could one of the motor vehicle advocates explain this logic, please?

If the logic is related to a trip having a purpose other than fitness, then you would obviously have no problem with people who use running or cycling as a form of transportation, right? Last I looked, subdivision roads, parks, Katy Trail, etc. don’t get most people to any destination they really need, e.g., work, grocery, day care, or general errands.

There are ignorant, inconsiderate people on both sides of this fence (which doesn’t have to be a fence, btw.). But, guess what, fellow drivers? There are more of *us* than there are cyclists on the roads, which means that the odds are pretty good that you or I are one of the ignorant, inconsiderate motor vehicle operators out there. And don’t trot out the argument that all cyclists are scofflaws–I see more of my fellow drivers violating laws daily with far more dangerous consequences, e.g., speeding, failure to signal, running red lights/stop signs, weaving through traffic, failure to pay attention to traffic, etc. etc.

Just remember…that *person* on a bike is a person, just you and I. Oh yeah…the person in the other car is a person, too. Try thinking of them as people rather than as obstacles or opponents.

Same for all the cyclists out there–don’t occupy a lane unnecessarily. If it’s not safe to ride all the way to the right, move over a little when it’s safe for traffic behind to pass and wave them around.

The streets around my neighborhood are Brentwood Blvd, Clayton Rd, Eager, Hanley, etc.

I have no choice but to use my neighborhood streets when commuting, shopping, visiting friends or running errands on my bike, often with my young sons.

Too bad auto drivers don’t respect, appreciate the rights of all road users. I suppose when you drive while eating, text messaging, smoking, talking on the cell, speeding,… paying attention to driving responsibly is difficult.

Cyclists aren’t going to work on Saturdays and Sundays dressed in spandex.
It’s much easier for a 40lb bike to slow down and pull over off the road than a 2,000 lb vehicle to stop and/or avoid hitting a bicyclist. Just drive on the edge of the road and stop being risk takers that’s all drivers ask.

As a former bike rider, I would not want to ride the streets today with everyone on anti-depressants, painkillers, anti-anxiety meds, muscle relaxers etc not to mention cell phones, ipods, gps, texting and the list goes on and on.

I think the people are so angry about this situation because it is upsetting the way people drive and if you add bike riders to the mix it’s a recipe for disaster. The streets are in such poor repair in St. Louis two large vehicles cannot even drive past one another without both drivers paying extreme attention to not hitting the other due to the narrow, rotting edged roads we have.

And with the aging population, who knows when somebody will experience a heart attack and/or stroke, blackout, faint, low-blood sugar reaction or other medical condition where they lose control of their car or van.

And hopefully there aren’t any methheads, capital of the us, in Ladue or Chesterfield. But if you tried riding out in Lincoln, Jefferson, Pike or St. Charles we would have to deal with those methed out drivers, too.

“Cyclists aren’t going to work on Saturdays and Sundays dressed in spandex.”

People don’t work on weekends? People can’t change clothes at work? How quick we are to judge, Megan.

Megan, when you are driving on the weekend, are YOU going to work? If not, then why are you on the road? What, exactly, are the legitimate uses of a road? Presuming that you’re not going to work, then what makes your use of the road any less superfluous than anyone else’s? Further, why does vehicle choice elevate the importance?

Certainly I choose to drive my car, but that was my *choice*. Other people choose to use their legs on a bike, others choose to walk. If anybody is handing out moral high ground rewards, it certainly shouldn’t be to me, the driver. I have chosen the least efficient means of transportation possible. I may have my reasons, but those are simply justifications and excuses most of the time.

As drivers, we need to stop being sanctimonious and selfish to ALL users of the roads.

Saturday morning at about 11:30 I was stopped for a train on Sappington Rd. near Ursuline Academy. I was the first car by the crossing with maybe two cars behind me. A group of bikers came up my right and stopped no the side of the road. One of the bikers came out in front of me and sqeezed in beween by front bumber and the crossing gate then proceded down the middle of the lane across the tracks holding up traffic while the rest of his group waited for the cars to pass then proceded onto the road. The one biker who cut in front of me is the one I will remember, though. As a frequent driver through Chesterfield Valley and on Highway 94 I know that the majority of bikers try and stay to the side and ride safely, and I will share the road until I safely pass them. Unfortunately you have the few who either through arrogance or stupidity ride with a “if you hit me I will sue you” attitude and give the rest of the riders a bad name. As far as the rider on Sappington Rd. goes, I hope for your wife and childrens’ sake the day never comes when the fire department has to hose the remains of your head off the road because you ride like an idiot with seemingly no conception of the fact that the vehicle you are riding is not comperable to a car in speed or size.

Perfectly stated malz1265. My sentiments exactly. Cyclists ride like they own the road to themselves. One mishap and they will quickly learn the hard way. If they are even aware of what has happened to them or in a vegetative state

with my darn cataracts I can hardly see those bicycles…please wear brighter outfits.
I get so close to those bicycles; once I couldn’t even see it till I brushed up against it, I think I just brushed him but don’t exactly know. My memory is somewhat fading also.

If roads were constructed for bikes they would be narrow not made with multiple lanes and shoulders(for bikes and walkers). And bike owners would have to pay a tax for operating their bicycles.

Where do you work at 2pm on a Sat….Target?

Megan,
I happen to know a few physicians that ride their bikes to work…..for some that could be around 2pm on a saturday. Good try.

Olga,
It may be time to turn in that license of yours, just a thought.

Share the road.

I think all of you alternative people are truly hypocrites. You don’t live on or near Kehrsmill rd. I do and I see you cwe types driving your gas saver 10 year old cars and parking at our high school in Clarkson Valley and taking your skinny bikes off the rack. Gaud those skin tight outfits there are children around. Is it some kinda turn on for you guys. 2008 Cadillac Escalade, Josh

If physcians are so shallow to take 2 hours to get to the hospital, then we have a problem. There aren’t any hospitals along Kehrs Mill, Litszinger…I don’t see their physcian’s bag on their bike basket. Fabricated lies. Dr’s certainly would not risk their lives on the busy streets on a bicycle.

I know my Doctor would never put me at risk taking the long way to get to the hospital.

Admit it, you just like to get the attention of drivers. What’s wrong with Forest Park?
That’s a pretty diverse crowd of spectators there. You know good and darn well it is not a mode of transportation to work, period.

“Stop being risk takers that’s all drivers ask” perfectly describes the confusion that dominates drivers’ minds.

How many drivers are killed by fellow drivers every year? How many people are killed by cyclists in a year?

Tricky questions for power-starved drivers.

#36 That’s even all the more why cyclists need to steer clear of the roads.
Stick to the trails or sidewalks or drive a real bike like a motorcycle so you can keep up with the speed limit. Do you ride the minimum speed limit on the streets? If not, you cyclists are breaking the law.

You power riders starving for attention and power.

Wow. Doctors only work at hospitals. Only cars can get you to work. There is a minimum speed on non-interstates roads. All these things I never knew before reading this thread.

I average about 12 mph on my bicycle. Not far off from what I average on short (non-highway) car trips.

Simian

12 mph in your tiny car you have got to be joking! Now I understand why you prefer a bike to your car.

What dr’s are you talking about…a chiro..non-doctor?

Megan -

Do you forget to breathe sometimes?

Fred, allow me to rip you apart now.

If all you can do is take what I say out of context and add in what you might think are some sort of witty replies to delude yourself even further then I do seriously think all that exhaust you breathe in is affecting your critical thinking skills. My grammer skills or your lack of apparent perception that I was speaking in general terms really are not the issue. You obviously are very pretentious thinking that you don’t somehow contribute as much in overseas profits as other people just becuase you buy less gas. I would bet my salary against yours that just about everything on that bike and the clothes you wear when riding it, arn’t exactly domestic. I’m sure you make up for it in other areas as well. I do hope you come back to play.

Wow. This forum got weird. Stereotypes all over the place. Who knew a letter about bikers would incite such rage? Can’t we all just get along?

I’d say we need to make our city more amenable to bikers, joggers, in-line skaters, etc. Its the latest trend in recreation and biking and is increasingly a mode of transportation. More young professionals in high-tech, creative fields are making these choices and our regional economy needs more of them. Ironically, threatening to run down bikers could mean you lose the job you’re driving to. And for you bikers who feel the need to harass drivers….lay off. The last thing bikers or drivers need is a dare-devil with something to prove.

Wow, Bill, you got us on to a gay love connection and threats of deadly assault. I got two words for all teh cyclists worried about homicidal maniacs, Concealed Carry. A .22 fits nicely into most jersey pockets

I’m a professional truck driver and I cannot believe all the motorists in cars clogging up the interstate highways that were designed for commercial traffic. Can’t you use the county highways? I mean, c’mon, using the highways for your entertainment to get to Six Flags is just selfish! You are delaying my delivery. You should take Hwy 109. And with the restriping of 44 due to Hwy 40 construction, it is just downright dangerous for cars to share the highway with us 18-wheelers. I won’t be responsible the next time you get in my way. I might just have to crush you and your sissy car. Smash!

I’m begining to think Bobby and Josh have a thing for each other. Come out of the closet, boys!

prank, neither do most motorists share your opinion . . .

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