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02.20.2008 4:52 pm

US must shake its Wild West attitude toward guns

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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In one bitter week, six dead in Kirkwood, MO and six in DeKalb, IL, an even dozen, from a fusillade of gunfire by two citizens armed and dangerous. This is not counting the other assorted incidents of  victims killed by gun-toting citizens in our country last week alone.. I don’t have the exact number of deaths due to weapons legally obtained by the perpetrators. No doubt, that illustrious defender of the faith, ranting their spurious, self-serving interpretation of the Constitution of our right to bear arms, the NRA, keeps this total on their spreadsheets at  Washington, DC. headquarters. In this hail of bullets members of this “militia” power-mad lobbying throng must be chanting, ” Hail to the NRA “. How many card-carrying members recited the Lords Prayer attending funerals of their slain friends?

Against an individuals intent on killing scores of others indiscriminately, the evidence is overwhelming that there is scant defense from limiting the initial carnage by officers of the law or average citizens, unarmed or armed with openly displayed or concealed weapons for defense. To those who defend the Missouri concealed-carry law I challenge each of them to be able to respond instantly and effectively to ongoing violence in a manner that would prevent the immediate bloodshed of others and their own imminent demise. At the very least law enforcement gets weapons training; most individuals have little more than rudimentary knowledge of weapons safety and use though they may like to think they are Cool Hand Luke with a fast draw. 

Until we as a nation wake up from our 1870’s Wild West attitude toward guns, we will continue to witness these unspeakable, irrational killing rampages which compete for headline-grabbing attention with the daily slaughter of countless civilians and soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. Both are a consequence of active and wrong-headed decisions we have brought upon ourselves. The ownership of all handguns and assault weapons by other than the appropriate authorities should be banned. Will we still be ringing our hands and hurting as many more people inevitably are taken down by legal and illegal guns? It is one quick step away from a deranged or angered citizen from pulling the trigger upon you and yours. Welcome to Iraq in Missouri. 

Laurence C. Day

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Mr. Day,

Your letter is so thoroughly irrational I hesitated before drafting a response. Attempting to link law abiding gun owners and NRA members to the two tragedies is truly outrageous. Your emotional rant conveniently ignores the fact that concealed carry laws have been on the books in many states for a long time and there is a mountain of empirical evidence that they reduce crime. Proponents of concealed carry have never stated that all crime is eliminated by concealed carry laws only that crime is reduced.

Maybe you just do not follow current events closely, but there are numerous examples of concealed carry permit holders defending themselves with firearms. Perhaps you missed the recent story of the pizza delivery worker shooting a man attempting to rob him at gunpoint? Raising fantasies about mythical Wild West type shootouts is pretty lame considering that it has never happened in the many years of concealed carry.

Attempts to disarm the civilian population have been carried out in the UK and Australia. The gun bans in both of these countries led to large increases in crime. Only law abiding citizens turned in their weapons. Criminals kept theirs to prey on the innocent.

Legitimate debate should be carried out on guns like any other issue facing the country today. Emotional non-fact based rants do not have a place in any honest debate.

— David H.
5:36 pm February 20th, 2008

Larry,

If this was the Wild West, you would be the little old lady standing on the side line, wringing her hands and wailing “Think of the Children!”

It’s a rough world out there, and clearly you are not man enough to handle it. I recommend you stay indoors, lock the doors and make sure the police are on speed dial. They won’t be able to save you, but at least they will know where to find the bodies when the bad guys are done with you.

— Wild West
6:02 pm February 20th, 2008

The places in our country where handguns are (or were) restricted are the places where handgun crime is the worst. This is not a strange coincidence, Mr. Day.

Perhaps your favorite constitutional amendment is “self-serving” (an oxymoron at best), but my favorite constitutional amendment is designed to keep people like you out of the business of people like me - this is a public benefit, believe me.

It is incredibly foolish to believe that you will be any safer by taking away guns from non-criminals.

News flash: it is already illegal to commit crimes with a gun. this has not served as much of a deterrent to criminals.

— Geno - USA
6:19 pm February 20th, 2008

Mr. Day,

I agree with what David H said in post #2. I will carry it further. I have a concealed carry permit issued in Alaska that is also valid in Missouri. Missouri’s concealed carry law is relatively new, and not nearly enough people have the CC permits.. Over time and as a result of the senseless slaughter in the 2 incidents hopefully more will be trained and and get permits.

The police have no obligation of any kind to keep some nut from killing you if he chooses to do so. It’s sad that the individuals who were killed.. Police officers were killed, and so were ordinary citizens..

I am trying to phrase this in a way that will not will not be interpreted by anyone to anyone to be, “the victims asked for it because they weren’t armed”.. The time line was such that a police officer was shot outside in one instance. Had the victims been armed, they would at least had a chance to defend themselves.

Look up the stats on the number of violent crimes prevented by ordinary citizens who were armed. You will be stunned.

I have personally apprehended 3., and never fired a shot.

My motto: Never point a firearn at any living thing that you do not intend to kill immediatey”

— johnh
5:01 am February 21st, 2008

Mr. Day is one of the bleating sheep that think their personal safety is the responsibility of someone else. I feel sorry for his type.

— Primersinmyshoe
6:21 am February 21st, 2008

The pro-gun forces in our country are slowly losing the battle unfortunately because of situations like Kirkwood.

— Robb(I)
7:16 am February 21st, 2008

It all comes down to individual freedoms granted by our Constitution. If Mr. Day wants to put his life, and the well being of his family in someone elses hands (ie police, government) so be it. But I don’t have to agree with Mr. Day, and he shouldn’t have the right to tell me how to protect my family. This is the main difference between Conservative and Liberal idealism…Liberals want a “nanny state” to take care of everything for them, and Conservatives want to be in control of their own lives and future.

I personally own dozens of guns and I’ve never killed anyone, or even threatened anyone with a gun. I have been through firearms training and safety courses over the years, and I keep my guns in a safe to which only I have the key. Why should I be punished because Mr. Day thinks guns are “bad”.

Less people have been killed in the last 10 years by “firearms” than are killed in one week by drunk drivers. So tell me Mr. Day….should we ban alcohol or should we ban automobiles?

— Gaucho
7:58 am February 21st, 2008

HEY LARRY
THEY CAN’T STOP ILLEGAL DRUGS, THEY SURELY CAN NOT STOP ILLEGAL GUNS.
ASK THE POLICE IF THEY ARE RESPONCABLE FOR YOUR PERSONAL SAFETY, THEY ARE
NOT. THEY ARE RESPONCABLE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN SOME ONE IS KICKING YOUR DOOR IN.

— Gene
8:10 am February 21st, 2008

Consider for a moment the firearms policy of that sage law-and-order man from Tombstone, Arizona: Wyatt Earp. “No guns, no exceptions.” It’s easy to remember, and fits nicely on a bumper sticker.

— Commander Barkfeather
8:14 am February 21st, 2008

Because the easy to remember and fits nicely on a bumper sticker slogan/law of “just say no to drugs” has been so effective?!? Outlawing and banning guns will only serve to leave bad guys with guns and law abiding citizens as prey for them.

— Herb
8:50 am February 21st, 2008

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