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02.20.2008 4:52 pm

US must shake its Wild West attitude toward guns

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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In one bitter week, six dead in Kirkwood, MO and six in DeKalb, IL, an even dozen, from a fusillade of gunfire by two citizens armed and dangerous. This is not counting the other assorted incidents of  victims killed by gun-toting citizens in our country last week alone.. I don’t have the exact number of deaths due to weapons legally obtained by the perpetrators. No doubt, that illustrious defender of the faith, ranting their spurious, self-serving interpretation of the Constitution of our right to bear arms, the NRA, keeps this total on their spreadsheets at  Washington, DC. headquarters. In this hail of bullets members of this “militia” power-mad lobbying throng must be chanting, ” Hail to the NRA “. How many card-carrying members recited the Lords Prayer attending funerals of their slain friends?

Against an individuals intent on killing scores of others indiscriminately, the evidence is overwhelming that there is scant defense from limiting the initial carnage by officers of the law or average citizens, unarmed or armed with openly displayed or concealed weapons for defense. To those who defend the Missouri concealed-carry law I challenge each of them to be able to respond instantly and effectively to ongoing violence in a manner that would prevent the immediate bloodshed of others and their own imminent demise. At the very least law enforcement gets weapons training; most individuals have little more than rudimentary knowledge of weapons safety and use though they may like to think they are Cool Hand Luke with a fast draw. 

Until we as a nation wake up from our 1870’s Wild West attitude toward guns, we will continue to witness these unspeakable, irrational killing rampages which compete for headline-grabbing attention with the daily slaughter of countless civilians and soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. Both are a consequence of active and wrong-headed decisions we have brought upon ourselves. The ownership of all handguns and assault weapons by other than the appropriate authorities should be banned. Will we still be ringing our hands and hurting as many more people inevitably are taken down by legal and illegal guns? It is one quick step away from a deranged or angered citizen from pulling the trigger upon you and yours. Welcome to Iraq in Missouri. 

Laurence C. Day

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OOPS… Insert “child” after your in above comment. Brain and fingers aren’t connect yet this morning.

— Bb
7:12 am February 22nd, 2008

CS… Garrison will never acknowledge that many 22 year old “kids” like you have two tours in Afganistan, Iraq, or elsewhere around the globe protecting his self righteous butt. At 22 you already show more maturity and thoughtfullness in your comments than Garrison ever will.

— Bb
7:19 am February 22nd, 2008

Bb, it’s would be funny if it weren’t so sad. Garrison refers to a 22 year old as a “kid” because the young man wants to get his CCW. Now if CS was raving about what a great candidate Obama/Hillary are, he would be considered an intelligent young man, wise beyond his years in Garrison’s eyes. If CS was touting the importance and strength of Unions/Government programs, Garrison would think he was a genius. But alas, the young man wants to exercise his 2nd amendment rights and he is a stupid kid, probably one of them backwood, tobacky chewing, pickemup truck driving redneck stupid kids.

Garrison also needs 22 year olds classified as children and kids because that falls into the 18-24 age range that he needs to make his “guns kill children” argument stand up. Facts are facts. If you eliminate that category, gun deaths are cut in half. If you eliminate drug connections, gun deaths are cut in half yet again.

Firearms are less deadly to law-abiding people of all ages than about a dozen other products/activities. Garrison will never be smart enough to see or admit that.

Waiting on your service experience, Garrison.

— Amazedbythelunacy
9:34 am February 22nd, 2008

Garrison’s comment #43 is a classic example of the Ronald Reagan observation that it is not that liberals are ignorant, it is just that so much of what they know is not true. It also demonstrates that Garrison has no desire to “understand” the world around him. He’ll just continue to stand in the dark and cry for nanny to come get him.

— Bb
9:45 am February 22nd, 2008

Here’s a senario lets say your in a public place say the library some dude starts picking folks off, now your a smart guy you have your CC so you save the day and blow this guy to smitherines (nice job) now the police show up and your the only guy holding a weapon ……….now your the gunman. BLAM!!!!!!!!

— Tazz
10:16 am February 22nd, 2008

Once the threat is ended, try reholstering or laying down your weapon and obeying the instructions of the police exactly when they arrive. You give as little credit to police training as you do to citizen intelligence. Oh, that’s right. American citizens are too careless or ignorant to own a tool that launches projectiles. You better start looking at bows and nail guns.

— Bb
10:32 am February 22nd, 2008

I’ve come to the conclusion that there are a list of topics of national interest that it is virtually impossible to have a rational conversation about. The vast majority of people are so entrenched in their views that any attempt at conversation turns into a continuous repetition of sound bite talking points. This is one of those topics.

I like to think I’m reasonably rational. I have a position on this one, that I think has value. I’ll grant the supporters of the opposite position that they do have a point. And yet, when I state my position, I always wind up experiencing the worst possible responses.

So, I ask this question of the vast majority of posters on this subject, who have seen fit to rip Mr. Day’s head off for voicing his opinion: Are you capable of having a rational conversation on this subject? Can you suggest a solution to the serious problem of crazies going into public places and shooting up the joint other than to have more armed citizens on hand to deal with it when it happens? Can you propose any workable process to disarm the crazies, the children, and the gangsters that you would find acceptable? Do you have any suggestions on dealing with the black market in firearms?

It’s not enough to say, “enforce the laws we have.” Concrete, workable, acceptable proposals are required.

I’d suggest REAL background checks for legitimate firearm purchases, with a waiting period long enough to work AND permanent record keeping. I’d suggest serious enforcement of laws regarding illegal sales and targeting of known firearm black marketers. I’d suggest that if a minor uses a firearm to harm another person, the OWNER of the firearm is legally liable for making it possible. If you don’t have a trigger guard or a gun safe and use it, and your gun is used in a crime, you’re liable.

— hs
10:52 am February 22nd, 2008

Bb, thanks for the kind words. I agree with the thought of quickly showing the weapon to police, and keeping in “unconcealed” so to ease tension in that particular situation. A little common sense to go along with intelligence never hurts (as too often this gets mysteriously seperated). We have to show a little thoughtfulness and forethought when having a privilege such as this.

“To whom much is given, much is required”

— CS
10:57 am February 22nd, 2008

hs… You see proliferation of guns as the root cause of random violence. I see proliferation of gruesom video games and violent movies as the root cause. How much liberty are you willing to sacrifice and how much censorship would you accept to address the problem?

— Bb
11:02 am February 22nd, 2008

There is one thing that nobody seems to address and the truth of the matter is when these types of mass killings occur the guns that are used are legally attained!!! In most cases drug dealers with illegal weapons are not going to universities and committing these crimes they kill each other(to the chargrin of many) . It seems to me that legally attained guns kill more than illegal. I don’t need stats I just turn on the tube.

— Tazz
11:03 am February 22nd, 2008

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