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05.08.2008 6:39 pm

Hillary stands to gain if she withdraws now

St. Louis Post-Dispatch

Now that the North Carolina and Indiana primaries are history, it is time to take stock of the situation.  With a win in Indiana, Hillary Clinton has kept her campaign alive, at least for the moment.  By winning North Carolina by a convincing margin, Barack Obama has added to his lead delegate lead.  Both should be proud of their victories.  The reality is, however, that Senator Obama has added to his lead in both the popular vote and delegate counts over Senator Clinton.  Fund raising will become increasingly difficult for Hillary Clinton after her modest win in Indiana and with the delegate gap widening between the two candidates, her chances of winning the nomination have all but diappeared under the present rules.

To bolster her chances Senator Clinton wants the rules changed and the Florida and Michigan votes counted.  The Democratic National Committee set down the rules PRIOR to the votes in those two states and the two candidates agreed to them.  Voters went to the polls in those two states (or stayed away) KNOWING that their votes would not count.  Now, Senator Clinton wants the rules changed to allow the flawed wins she garned in those two states counted.  This indicates that she is willing to abide by the rules she agreed to but not when they work to her disadvantage.  If either campaign had any reservations about the rules they should have been raised at the time the rules were proposed and agreed to.  Not satisfied with just getting the Florida and Michigan delegates seated, the Clinton campaign also wants the number necessary to win the nomination raised from the agreed upon 2025 delegates effectively putting the nomination out of the reach of Senator Obama.

Yes, there are voters in those two states who have been disenfranchised but that was done by the Democratic National Committee because they violated the rules of the national party.  The problem of the Florida and Michigan delegations must be resolved by the Rule Committee of the National committee which created the situation.  Unfortunately, the Rules committee is in an untenable position.  If it rules that the delegations must be seated, the Obama campagin will cry foul and righty so.  If they rule not to seat the delegations, the Clinton supporters will use it as an excuse not to support Obama in the fall campaign, ensuring four more years of Bush policies under John McCain. 

The bitterness and vidictive nature of this primary campaign is harmful to the chances of electing a Democratic President in November.  It is obvious that the outcome rests in the hands of the superdelegates and, unless something happens between now and then, the contest will go to the Convention floor.  The Democratic National Committee has urged the superdelegates to express their preferences quickly to avoid a floor fight, but it should also move to quickly resolve the problem of the Florida and Michigan delegations if a disatrous convention floor fight is to be avoided.

Eugene L. Schneider

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In Hillarys opinion, Obama as the candidate would be harmful to the Democrats chances of winning in November. She thinks that he can’t pull in working class and moderate voters. Maybe shes right and maybe shes wrong, but its her opinion to have. Dropping out, in her mind, would be conceeding defeat in November.

— RCJ
11:11 pm May 8th, 2008

Mr. Scheider, It is Hellary’s right to make her own decisions. As the cotton farmer said, let the Democrats vote for the lesser of two Weevils.

— johnh
7:08 am May 9th, 2008

The country stands to gain if all three withdraw now!

— Jim (the republican)
9:19 am May 9th, 2008

Senator Clinton is now being advised by her closest associates that impeding Senator Obama’s progress to the nomination would make her about as popular among Democrats as Joe Lieberman. I predict Sen. Clinton will put her campaign on hold Tuesday night. The debate over Florida and Michigan will become moot.

— Commander Barkfeather
9:56 am May 9th, 2008

And see, its a shame that JOe Liberman is basically shunned out of the Democratic party. It’s good evidence that the Democrats are not mainstream, open-minded and moving further to the left. Here’s a guy that happens to agree on most issues with the party, but disagrees on Iraq. Because he doesn’t tow the same party line he was unceremoniously tossed from the party. He still managed to keep his seat, defeating his further left Democratic opponent, running as an Independent.

In the meantime, the Republican party showed its openmindedness this primary season and its willingness to CHANGE to a moderate platform. They had candidates that were pro-choice, anti-ANWR drilling, pro comprehensive immigration reform. These are platforms of the staunch right. There is a willingness to explore new ideas, especially in the wake of W. They ended up with a guy that wants to close Gitmo, ban waterboarding, forbid ANWR drilling, and comprehensively overhaul immigration (more than just putting up a fence and deporting people). It must be a good move if people like Hannity, Limbaugh and Ingraham are annoyed at the choice.

Meanwhile, do you think a Democrat would have a serious shot if they were pro-life or pro-Iraq or tough on immigration? Not a chance. Some may say thats evidence of being “right” on all issues. I disagree. I see it as being close minded, controlled by ideology and unwilling to entertain or listen to the other side. In the same way that it must be a good thing if Limbaugh is annoyed, it must be a bad thing if MoveOn, DailyKos, George Soros and Michael Moore are all thrilled and overjoyed.

In this day and age more than ever we need a President that will moderate between the two parties. Someone that annoys both the far left and far right wing. Someone willing to CHANGE Washington by working between party lines. McCain has evidence of that. Obama has talking points. I hope McCain takes Lieberman as a VP. That will show true diversity of thought and CHANGE.

— RCJ
11:03 am May 9th, 2008

RCJ,

A couple of points. After Sen. Lieberman was defeated in the primary (by the people of Connecticut), most Democrats had no choice but to oppose his bid as an Independent. Still a few did, at least privately, support him . I also think he would make a good choice as McCain’s VP, but I fear the far right would blow a gasket. Intriguing, but don’t look for it to happen. At the time of Lieberman’s primary loss, Sen. Clinton was also pro-Iraq. How then, do you explain her surviving the supposed Soros/MoveOn purge? I also point out that Sen. McCain’s immigration policy is somewhat in flux, and leaning towards a more conservative position. Sen. Obama also has a great deal of respect and admiration among Senate Republicans. Things are not quite as cut-and-dried as they appear. It is daunting to conveniently place politicians in their appropriate boxes, when they don’t want to go.

— Commander Barkfeather
12:26 pm May 9th, 2008

“Sen. Obama also has a great deal of respect and admiration among Senate Republicans”

Yeah, right. Where has Obamessiah reached across the aisle and taken a position against the dem party line and worked with Republicans? On what issue has he not towed the party line? The only time he works with RINO’s is when they take on his positions.

— Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum
12:39 pm May 9th, 2008

Bark, she survived because at the time she was the presumptive front runner for the White House and let’s be honest the Clintons have a lot more sway than Joe Lieberman. But in reality she didn’t quite survive the Far Left movement. While I’m not a big Hillary fan, I’ve viewed her campaign as more moderate while Obamas platforms are basic tax and spend liberal policies. Who’s been ripped to shreds on left wing blogs? Who does the far left support? Who’s the Democratic nominee?

McCains immigration policy is in flux, partly because he was greatly rebuked by both the far right and some moderates over percieved flaws in the bill. It would still be honest to saw that his stance is more moderate than the far right would like.

Finally, I don’t necessarily agree with you about Republicans “great respect” for Obama. If you’re talking quotes, these guys always pass off platitudes when talking about fellow Congressionals. I think McCains actual physcial track record of working with Domcrats is a bit more substantial. Besides, what Republicans are endorsing Obama? The only line I see crossed in support is Liebermans staunch support of McCain. These are two moderates who have a far greater chance of bringing the parties together than Bush has or Obama could, be it on the same ticket or not.

I’ll grant you that Lieberman will probably not be on the ticket. McCain will have to placate the right and put someone a bit more conservative on, like Romney. But Obama will need to do the same, he’ll need to find a moderate from a state and with a personality that balances his strengths and weaknesses. Thats how it works.

— RCJ
1:17 pm May 9th, 2008

RCJ-

It is ironic and refreshing to realize that no matter whether the republicans or democrats win the white house in November we will have a moderate as a president. Through the primaries America has spoken loud and clear regarding the desire to rid itself of fringe element reactionary government.

I share Commander’s concern that McCain will have to sell his soul and conscience to garner the support of the right wing of the republican party. I suspect that if elected McCain will return to his moderate roots and leave the reactionary right yammering amongst themselves in an empty room.

— citizen smith
1:19 pm May 9th, 2008

Aw, come on… let her keep fighting. It’s funny! We’ll all have plenty to be crying about come this time next year.

— Logus
1:29 pm May 9th, 2008

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