Art,

I’m overwhelmed by your massive amount of data you present in your arguments. Did you and JD attend the same school? That name-calling thing the 2 of you have going is so effective in its ability to persuade. Really if you guys want to debate bring on some facts, some logic, some reasoning, otherwise you’re just wasting space and changing no ones’ minds. It’s fun to shoot you guys down, but it doesn’t take much mental exercise. The 2 parts of the newspaper I read everyday are the editorials and the funnies, both for their amusement values. But guys like you and JD et al are just boring, because you bring no information. I don’t mind criticism, if you can make a case against anything I’ve written, bring it on. Until you can do that, maybe you should spend time honing your communication skills as now they are only an embarrassment to those who would be on your side that actually have those skills.

Mr. Brown

Sir, I may lack as much formal education as you do, but I get my point across. If that bothers you , good. I deal with over educated idiots on a daily basis, and you are all alike. Lack common sense.

I have also fought for my country sir, and if that doesn’t give me the right to speak my mind, the first admendment does. So get off your friggin high horse and get some common sense. There is only one thing worse than a liberal sir, and that is an educated one!!!

JD,

Congratulations and thank you for your service. Now explain to me how you went to war to protect this country and now find yourself supporting people that lie to Congress and the American people? Explain the common sense in supporting traitors to their oaths of office? Explain how continuing a mistake that has resulted in the deaths of over 4000 of your comrades in arms, the permanent injury of many times that, and the defilement of our reputation for justice around the world has bolstered your love of conservative principles. Man if that’s common sense, you should check into some VA therapy group. The torture alone puts your fellow soldiers at greater risk. Ask John McCain. Oh that’s right he only gives lip service now and has decided that his flip-flopping earlier stand against torture, (because it yields unreliable information, and endangers our soldiers, and is in violation of both the constitution and the Geneva Convention) was politically unwise. That’s the kind of common sense that has brought us from the only superpower left standing to our current status as a third world country.

Mr. Brown

This is my final response to you sir.

I don’t want or need congratulations from you, or anyone else. It was a pleasure to serve my country, and if 25 years younger, I would be in uniform today, helping to preserve freedom for ungrateful people like you. I currently work for Uncle Sam, and deal with terrorism daily. If you knew half of what you were talking about when dealing with the war sir, I would respect you.

All the politicians lie sir, not just republicans, but the liberals are better at it.

Waterboarding sir, I thank GOD Mr. Bush had the backbone to do it. It saved numerous American lives, no matter what the friggin media has said. The Geneva Convention does not apply to our fight on terrorism, sir. It deals with countries, and soldiers in uniform. Read it!

I am not the brightest bulb on the shelf, sir. But I know right from wrong. I am sick and tired of being called a racist because I will not support Obama. He has piss poor judgement, and will bankrupt this country with Universal Health, and all his nanny state give away programs. I would vote for a black, brown, blue or green person as long as they have GOOD American values, and it is MY opinion sir, that Obama has none and never will.

The liberals will win this election, even if McCain is elected. I may not vote this time, but I have time to decide, and if I do, I will have to hold my nose.

As far as taxes sir, I am happy to pay my fair share. As history shows, when taxes are raised on any part of society, gov. revenue goes down, when taxes are lowered revenue increases. Since Pelosi and company helped push this so called stimulus package, proves that money in our hands, is better than in the gov. coffers, then they want to turn around and raise taxes. Makes no friggin sense. When taxes are raised for corporations (windfall profits tax), their profits do not drop. They raise prices to the consumer, to pay the tax. A vicious cycle.

I support no traders sir, I do not support Pelosi, Reid, Kennedy, Durbin or a handful of left wing supporters, and never will. When the dems get back to running a person of JFK’s stature, cutting taxes and a strong country, I will vote for him or her, no matter what color their skin may be.

I swore to myself in 1973, walking through San Fran airport, in uniform with VN ribbons on, that I would never in my lifetime vote for a democrat after being spit on by a bunch of liberal idiots called Hippies. To this day, I haven’t, but would consider with the above circumstances.

As I previously said, you probably have a lot more formal education than I do, and that is fine. It is not education that I am against, it is the sickness called liberalism. I believe it was Harry Truman, a great dem president that said, “walk soft but carry a big stick”. I am probably wrong on the quote, but you get my point, I hope. Nowdays it’s carry a twig. That will never work.

I am finished. My spelling may not be the best, so you can laugh at that too.

Wow JD, I didn’t know you could write that many coherent if illogical sentences at a time. You know of course that there is not one documented case of hippies spitting on soldiers in airports. An actual study was done. People claiming that happened were interviewed. Their friends and families were interviewed. Newspaper records were searched. It’s an urban myth. Look it up. If that actually happened to you, you should get in touch with the people that conducted the study so you can dispel that myth. And if you can find him I’ll help you beat up the sorry slob that did it to you. If he exists anywhere other than your fermented imagination.

I don’t see anywhere on this list that you were called a racist, maybe you protest too much.

Cutting taxes on the middle-class may raise revenues, cutting taxes on the rich not-so-much. Who benefited most from the Bush Tax Cuts? Could it have been the OIl Companies? Could it have been the top 2% of taxpayers? Bush reported revenues were up, but not significantly. Besides INFLATION is a tax just not a governmental one. Bush’s occupation of Iraq is causing inflation.

Glad to see you admit to being in favor of torture. If using Bush definitions absolves my country of sadistic behavior, makes you proud, then tell that to our soldiers that it puts at risk. Even John Ashcroft is reported to have said history will not judge this kindly, during the planning of it. Then there’s all the lying about it that occurred afterward. From Colin Powell, Rumsfeld, Rice, Tenet, etc. We’ll see if don’t get tried as war criminals, then maybe you’re right about the Geneva Conventions not applying or maybe the Democrats won’t have the guts to prosecute them for it and they’ll just get away with it. It’s still wrong if only because it yields unreliable intelligence. The great comedian Lenny Bruce used to do a bit about a guy being interrogated. The guy says I would never betray my country, I won’t tell any secrets. Hey, why are you heating up that lead over there? Why are you putting that funnel in my ass? Wait a minute, I’ll tell you everything, I’ll make up secrets, only don’t give me the hot lead enema. John McCain knows this, but he wouldn’t vote to put an end to it. He voted right along with Bush’s wishes. Don’t the 2 of them make you proud to be a conservative?

You denigrate single-payer universal health care without ever demonstrating how it would be worse for this country than what we have now?

That’s not just pathetic, it’s cowardly.