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05.19.2008 2:10 pm

We’d better have a good reason to disenfranchise voters

St. Louis Post-Dispatch

I understand how many people think at first glance that the Missouri voter ID bill would have been good.  We all want to prevent voter fraud.  What can be easier than presenting our ID?I was once skeptical until I found out that it is not that easy to get the things you need for a Missouri ID.  I am 39 years old and a quadriplegic so I have no need for a drivers license.  For identification I use my old student ID, library card, and Columbia transit identification.  I asked my parents to find my birth certificate and they looked for a few months without success.  My dad then drove a 150 miles from his house to the county capital of my birth place (and then pay $20) back to his house and then an hour and a half to give the birth certificate to me and back home.  I then spent a half a day at the motor vehicle department getting my ID.  I was able to get that done because I had family support.  Not everybody is that lucky.  There are many more convoluted and complicated cases of people who were born a long time ago many states away or students with out to state IDs.  This Missouri ID legislation is naturally biased against people who do not have drivers licenses or change their last names which means this disproportionately affects people with disabilities and women.  If we are going to disenfranchise voters, we better have a really good reason.  We will inevitably turn away people who are American citizens who have very little power over our government except for one thing-their constitutionally protected right to vote but we will even take that away.   Driving is considered a privilege but voting is a right.  Do we need another barrier to people who cannot drive?  Considering that there has not been one documented case of voter ID fraud in Missouri, do we really want to take the vote away from American citizens who just want to vote?

Bob Pund

Columbia, Mo.

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I agree that there is no voter I.D. fraud in Missouri. So why this bill to require such I.D.? It could be a class issue, preventing the have nots from voting. But since the voting machines are already rigged, that seems unlikely. More likely, this bill is to help justify the national I.D. card being proposed by the FED’s, giving every person a 9 digit number to identify them. This National I.D. card has already been rejected in numerous state legislatures.

— Shell Knichel
2:43 pm May 19th, 2008

If the repubs insist on having a Voter ID law, I think they should also create and fund a new department that is devoted to getting everyone a Voter ID, with that department bearing all of the time and expense necessary to get it done. If they have to put an employee on an airplane to Alaska, Hawaii, New York or California in order to retrieve a birth certificate, then so be it. Otherwise, the repubs are in effect instituting a poll tax.

— Lisa12
2:51 pm May 19th, 2008

Bob
I am sorry for your plight on getting your birth certificate. You no longer have to go to the county where you were born. Just go to your local Health Dept. and they are available, on computer, from anywhere in the state.

The voter ID insures a fair, and honest election, without dead people being able to vote. I agree with you that voting is a right, but it also one vote, per person, per election, which has been abused in the past.

I hope when Missouri gets their voter ID law, that they have accomodations for the handicapped, by having mobile units visiting communities every few months.

— JD
2:54 pm May 19th, 2008

Shell

We already have a National ID card with 9 numbers. It is called a Social Security Card.

— JD
3:15 pm May 19th, 2008

Let everyone who comes in the door vote, put the sealed non Photo-ID ballots in a seperate box. When the ballots are counted, divide the ballots with no Photo ID 50/50, count half of the no Photo-ID ballots for the Democrats and half for the Republicans. That way everyone gets to vote and all the votes are counted.

— Kenrick
3:23 pm May 19th, 2008

Bob Pund:

“Considering that there has not been one documented case of voter ID fraud in Missouri, do we really want to take the vote away from American citizens who just want to vote?”

Just a few years ago, a dog was registered to vote in the city of St. Louis. It was done as a prank but fraud was prevented only because the dog was alive and didn’t automatically qualify as a Democrat. You and I must have a different definition of voter fraud.

— Iconoclastic Sage
3:34 pm May 19th, 2008

Lisa12:

“If the repubs insist on having a Voter ID law, I think they should also create and fund a new department that is devoted to getting everyone a Voter ID, with that department bearing all of the time and expense necessary to get it done. If they have to put an employee on an airplane to Alaska, Hawaii, New York or California in order to retrieve a birth certificate, then so be it.”

I thought your example was extreme until I remembered the 2000 Presidential Election. The man in front of me had both wrists broken and could not initial the voting register. The clerk had him flown to Switzerland, engaged a world renown osteopathic surgeon to insert pins and wrap them in plaster casts and a team of nurses escorted him back to the polls and then, his ballot was cast. Those in line behind him were then allowed to vote. I guess my question is, broken wrists or birth certificates, why don’t loopies exaggerate a situation whenever they can?

— Iconoclastic Sage
3:43 pm May 19th, 2008

Yes, being a quadriplegic you have to relight on the kindness of friends and family members to obtain an ID. How did you travel to the polls before the ID law? If you voted absente how did you travel to the Notary? Yes obtaining an ID is a hassle, but how were you independent before this law came into action? I’m not putting the author down for his disability. I’m just raising questions about the hassles of voting before this law.

— eagle scout
4:21 pm May 19th, 2008

JD: You no longer have to go to the county where you were born. Just go to your local Health Dept. and they are available, on computer, from anywhere in the state.

Does the local Health Dept have birth certificates for everyone born outside of Missouri, too?

— Lisa12
4:41 pm May 19th, 2008

Lisa12

Don’t know about out of state. My wife had to get her’s when she renewed her drivers license. We live in Jefferson County, and she was born in Franklin. I called Franklin Couty to find out what needed to be done, and they said to go to any Health Dept. in the state. We went to the one in Arnold, and for $15 she got a notorized copy. I asked if it worked anywhere in the state, and they said yes.

Since there is a system like that, they should be able to have card readers at polling places to verify voters creditionals, but they must also have a failsafe system in case the reader goes down, or someones card does not read.

— JD
4:55 pm May 19th, 2008

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