Mr. Gilley

My heart goes out to all of the Chrysler workers, and sub contractors, that will be losing their jobs, due to down sizing.

My question to you, sir. It is the democratic party that has continually blocked congressional bills, to allow drilling for oil, off both coasts, the Gulf and Anwar. Just for that reason, and that reason alone, why does your Union continue to endorse democrats? That is comparable to shooting yourself in the foot.

There are two issues here, first the comment by JD. He seems to believe that all we have to do is drill and that solves the problem, and of course the democrats are the problem. Yet oil analyst say while there are large reserves there the answer is at best a mid term answer. The estimate also says that it takes at lest 10 years to start getting oil out of those fields. So if they started drilling the day Bush took office it would be the middle of Obama’s first term before any significant amounts started coming out of the offshore fields. Also there is a bill to repeal many of the leases that are out there because the oil companies are not showing that they have any plans to drill in those fields. So why not spend the time looking for an alternative energy source.

The other point is by moving the jobs to Canada then Chrysler does not have to pay for health care. So maybe it is time for universal health care. Many people will say that the Canadian system is a bad system. However, I have heard Canadians say that the only way they know their system is flawed is by Americans complaining about it.

Darin Gilley:

“To allow a corporation to run three production shifts in Canada while selling the vast majority of that product in the USA and laying off Americans is a travesty.”

This sounds like somebody who is losing his base because he has used greed, avarice, sometimes highway robbery and the threat of a a labor strike with corresponding corporate “market loss,” in negotiating obscene benefits for their addled and pampered employees.

Hopefully, a concrete floor will break your fall.

Bob

If you hero, Bill Clinton, would have signed the drilling bill in 1995, we would have the oil today.

Did I state that would solve the whole problem? You libs are good at adding words or twisting someone’s words.

The oil people contradicts your 10 year time frame. They are saying 3 to 5 years, at the most.

Car production is just like manufacturing telephones. Western Electric used to make telephones and pay their workers on the assembly line $35/hour. Conaire came along and charged $19.99 for a phone. How could Western Electric compete? They did the only thing that could be done: they moved their manufacturing plant to Singapore where labor costs were $4-5/hour.

Today, if it was up to the Leftists, Western Electric would still be manufacturing black, metal, desk phones with a rotary dial and the Western Electric workers would be making $100/hour.

However, it just doesn’t work that way. The car industry is in the same situation. The investment group that took over Chrysler said they’d make Chrysler profitable; that means breaking the UAW of their exorbitant wages.

The UAW and other Unions want us to pay for their medical insurance, i.e. “socialized medicine,” because they see the writing on the wall…they’ll have to pay for their medical coverage just like many management employees are currently doing. The UAW would rather YOU pay for their coverage.

Maybe the economy is changing so to keep the company in business they must make decisions. Decisions that cut jobs. It is sad…and it will be difficult for the families…but financially speaking.

Toot your horn, but that won’t change the economy and it won’t bring sacks of money to pay people to work on minivans.

Bob-
Since when do the Canadians get free health care? It’s free? Nobody pays for it? So if we get nationalized health care, it will be free? No new taxes?

This fradulent line of thinking perfectly illustrates liberalism. Get the government involved, and things will be better and cheaper! Yeah, right! Why are canadians streaming into the US for health care?

TGS-

if the left had their way, they’d have banned electric lights 100 years ago to save the jobs of the candle-makers. Sorry, but it’s a fact of life.

JD,

You are very presumptive. You assume because I disagreed with you that I am a lib and my hero is Bill Clinton.

You have your people who say 3 to 5 years which are the oil companies, and we all know they have nothing to gain from this so why assume that they are lying. I have the oil analyst, who study the industry for the brokerage firms and commodity markets. They say 10 years. True they have a stake in this but not as big as the oil companies.

So when you start accusing people of reading more into a statement and twisting idea’s perhaps you should have a mirror setting in front of yourself so that you can get a good look at whom you refer.

Another point is that when we talk of lack of oil perhaps we should look at the Iraq war. Iraq has just made it back to pre-war numbers on oil. Yet they sit on either the first or second largest proven deposit of oil. It might not have avoided the problem but the entire war process certianly has exasperated the problem. First did we need to go to war and second since we did then our mis-management of the post invasion as created problems.

tim jones

Didn’t you know that was the liberal mindset? If the government pays for it, it is FREE.

I am still waiting for Mr. Gilley to answer my question in Post #1.

Tim Jones,

I never said it is free, I said the Chrysler does not have to pay for it. There are taxes for it, but then there are hidden taxes or expenses for our system. You have people who cannot afford health care waiting until they are extremely sick then going to the emergency room. The treatment at this point is more expensive. The hospital treats them. If they cannot afford preventive care then they cannot afford to pay much towards the emergency room visit. The hospital must re-coop the cost so they charge more to the people who have health coverage. That in turn means your coverage must pay more, which in turn means you must pay more (or at least your employer which then means there is less money available to give to you in the form of a raise). So you are being taxed, you just do not wish to acknowledge the fact.

Bob