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08.19.2008 11:59 am

Corporate taxes: Backing opinion with facts

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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Reference Editorial 8/15/2008, “Ducking the IRS”I found the piece on corporate America ducking tax responsibility hard to believe, so I randomly checked a few American companies income statements to see what I would find.  Here’s what I found for some large corporations in the 2005 tax year:Conoco Philips – $2.7 billion dollarsIBM – $4.2 billion dollarsMicrosoft - $5.7 billion dollarsBoeing – $257 million dollarsBerkshire Hathaway – 1.6 billion dollarsRaytheon - $498 million dollarsWalgreen’s – $213 million dollarsJohnson & Johnson - $3.2 billion dollarsSouthwest Airlines - $320 million dollars In general, profitable companies pay their taxes at approximately the 40% rate.  I would love to see some of the names of the companies that didn’t pay, but none were offered.  I suspect you would find that those paying no taxes in 2005 had no earned income.  One of two things are going on here.  Either this story was politically motivated to make someone or some agency look bad to achieve your political goal, or it was poorly  written with vague generalities and short on factual information to help readers make up their own minds.  Maybe you could clarify with facts to help your readers form an educated opinion.

Oliver Martin

Swansea

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uh, just because they reported the income doesn’t mean they paid the taxes owed on it…

— mike (not moseley)
12:45 pm August 19th, 2008

Financial statements and annual reports are available to the public for publicly traded corporations. Take a look at those documents for the large corporations we all know and you’ll see billions payed in taxes. Now some have made the point that these businesses will pass those tax costs along to their customers and this may have some merit. But to claim they simply don’t pay is just plain wrong.

— Realitycheck
1:15 pm August 19th, 2008

Exxon-Mobil paid $30 billion in taxes in 2007, about as much as the entire bottom 50% of individual wage-earners combined. Oliver is twice-correct, the GAO study included companies with no income, so of course they paid no taxes. Secondly, this study was politically motivated. The US has the second-highest corporate income tax rate among OECD countries

— tim jones
1:36 pm August 19th, 2008

Am I supposed to feel bad for ExxonMobile? If they paid $30B in taxes, but made $100B, they’re still paying a percentage of their income…just like your ‘wage-earners.’

If they make two thousand times more money than the average person, they obviously should be paying two thousand times more in taxes…and that would account for a lot of ‘wage-earners.’ I don’t make a billion dollars a year, do you, tim?

— mike (not moseley)
1:51 pm August 19th, 2008

Oh sorry, that should be 20,000 times as much as the average ‘wage-earner’ - not two thousand. MY BAD. Wouldn’t want to short-change the paupers at E-M.

— mike (not moseley)
1:53 pm August 19th, 2008

silly me. I get confused working with so many zeroes, ya know? Exxon made 2 MILLION times more than the average American ‘wage-earner’ last year. OOPS.

The moral of this story is no one needs to feel bad that they paid $30 billion in taxes, because it was THEIR FAIR SHARE. At least they paid.

— mike (not moseley)
2:05 pm August 19th, 2008

One can only speculate as to why certain companies paid no taxes at some point between 1999 and 2005. According to the Reuters article on the subject, “The report did not name any companies. The GAO said corporations escaped paying federal income taxes for a variety of reasons including operating losses, tax credits and an ability to use transactions within the company to shift income to low tax countries.” (http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN1249465620080812)

I used to work for a small company that made use of basic tax law to minimize their tax burden. At the end of each calendar year they would increase their cash outflow with purchases and by dumping a large sum of their profits into the company’s ESOP program and bonus plans. Their goal was to get as close to zero as possible.

Not judging whether it’s ethical or not here, mainly pointing out that a company making profit can legally show no profit within the confines of tax law, simply by deverting those dollars to expenses, dividend payments, and other legal options.

— CJ
2:05 pm August 19th, 2008

How you feel about them is irrelevant. The point Mr Martin is making is that the claim large corporations do not pay taxes in this country is a myth. More people would know this if it weren’t for newspapers like the Post that promulgate false economic information on a near daily basis.

— Go_Fish
2:17 pm August 19th, 2008

Who pays “corporate” taxes. If you work for a corporation, you do. If you buy the products or services of a corporation, you do. If you or your retirement plan own stock in a corporation, you do. So let’s stick it to the evil corporations.

— A#
2:55 pm August 19th, 2008
— Garrison
3:19 pm August 19th, 2008

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