Doubtingt,

Thank you for what you said. I am sorry to see that you are planning on leaving this site. Perhaps after the election everything will settle down and a more civil tone will exist. I do fear for the time from the election until sometime after inauguration. There seems to be an undertone of suppressed rage from both sides, again look at Gaucho talking about forming a militia.

While at times that I get heated, I stay on this site. If you go to a site where everyone agrees then you do not learn anything. It is like the saying about two people in the work place. If they both agree on everything, then you only one of them.

Truth be told my situation might soon change so I will be on site less often.

SSK

I believe they are non points, but if they seem important to you then of course pursue them. One thing to hold in mind what you choose to do with your early life determines some of the people you come into contact. Obama was a community organizer. Quite often you come into contact with a lot of people from both extremes, such as Church Ministers from one end and people who will have questionable qualities at the other extreme. This does not make a a Preacher or a Mobster. It does leave you open to being attacked depending on which group your opponents choose to concentrate on. If Obama had chosen to be a banker(I know considering recent events this might not be a good example) then I would be more concerned about the questionable associations.

JD

I forgot to address one of your points.

You could be correct that if elected Obama will be a one term President. But then no matter who gets elected very well could be a one term President. To get us out of the current financial mess they might have to make decisions that are very unpopular at the time. For the sake of argument let us assume that Obama gets elected at makes every correct decision concerning the economy. Any policy he implements will probably be attacked as either socialism or give away’s or to little to late or to much for to little, etc. A quick turn around would be needed to keep that from being an issue in the next election.

Bush did him a big favor by removing North Korea from the terrorist list. While Obama might have done so, there would have been a big outcry from the right. Basically the same situation has to why Nixon could have gone to China while Johnson could not have gone.

Bob: Believe me, I don’t want a site where everyone agrees with me. There is no growth in that. I would prefer a site where noone agrees me. I am not thin-skinned, don’t care about being called names, but what is the point when I express an opinion or ask for feedback, and what I get is “there is another racist ditto head”.

spp6118

If Obama is elected, there is no one more hopeful that he does what is right for this country, and that is not higher taxes and the far lefts agenda.

Yes, I have been riding motorcycles for almost 39 years, and there ain’t nuthin’ like it. Finally broke down in 05 and got a harely Ultra Classic. I had always wanted a Harley, but their reliabilty wasn’t that great until the late 90’s. When my kids were young, I had a Goldwing with a double side car, and they loved it. Did a few vacations with that rig. So I am not a couch potato that you accuse me of. Also take care of my 90 year old moms house and yard, my house and cut about 3 acres of my grass. Sometimes I wish I was couch tater.

spp6118, I don’t worry about much of anything since I came home from VN. Found out life is to friggin short to worry about things I cannot control, which isn’t a whole lot. Just work everyday, pay my bills and hope to live long enough to see grandchildren and retire.

spp6118

Got carried away talking about motorcycles, forgot about the Keating 5.
I have no problem with the McCain and Keating 5 mess. It was a democrat controlled congress and democrat lawyer that cleared him of any wrong doing, so that isn’t even a factor for me.

Bobby:

Keep researching and maybe you’ll see the light. Your explanation to date is still superficial. You’ll appreciate the results if you accept the personal responsibility of discerning something solely through hard work; not having it handed to you on a silver platter.

Good news. Journalists Max Blumenthal and David Neiwert have done an investigation into Sarah Palin’s ties to the Alaskan Independence Party. Here is a link to the report:

Meet Sarah Palin’s radical right-wing pals

Here is a summary of the report, from David Neiwert’s blog (Orcinus):

Essentially here’s what we found:
– That Gov. Palin, when a Wasilla city council member, formed an alliance with some of the more radical far-right citizens in Wasilla and vicinity, particularly members of the secessionist Alaskan Independence Party who were allied with local John Birch Society activists. These activists played an important role in her election as Wasilla mayor in 1996.

– Once mayor, one of Mrs. Palin’s first acts was to attempt to appoint one of these extremists (a man named Steve Stoll) to her own seat on the city council. This was a man with a history of disrupting city council meetings with intimidating behavior. She was blocked by a single city council member.

– Afterward, Mrs. Palin fired the city’s museum director at the behest of this faction.

– She fomented an ultimately successful effort to derail a piece of local gun-control legislation which would simply have prohibited the open carry of firearms into schools, liquor stores, libraries, courthouses and the like. The people recruited to shout this ordinance down included these same figures, notably the local AIP representative (who became the AIP’s chairman that same year).

– She remained associated politically with the local AIP/Birch faction throughout her tenure as mayor on other issues, particularly a successful effort to amend the Alaska Constitution to prohibit local governments from issuing any local gun-control ordinances.

From the Blumenthal/Neiwert Report:

At a national convention of secessionist groups in 2007, AIP vice chairman Dexter Clark announced that his party would seek to “infiltrate” the Democratic and Republican parties with candidates sympathetic to its hard-right, secessionist agenda. “You should use that tactic. You should infiltrate,” Clark told his audience of neo-Confederates, theocrats and libertarians.
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Clark pointed to Palin’s political career as the model of a successful infiltration. “There’s a lot of talk of her moving up,” Clark said of Palin. “She was a member [of the AIP] when she was mayor of a small town, that was a nonpartisan job. But to get along and to go along she switched to the Republican Party … She is pretty well sympathetic because of her membership.”
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She can no longer afford to kibitz with secessionists, however instrumental they may have been to her meteoric ascendancy. This does not trouble her old AIP allies. Indeed, Chryson is hopeful that Palin’s inauguration will also represent the start of a new infiltration.

Airhead, I mean Airball

At least I take a stance and research. You just ridicule. You are the best example of why the Republicans are losing.

Havde you practiced the term President of the United States Obama.